http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1489226-premier-league-is-the-epl-weaker-than-la-liga-and-the-bundesliga

im just going share this article to my fellow forumers here 

DONT BASH EACH OTHER HERE :p

@devilz

Simulation is almost like a part of the game now. It's a shame really, since it ruins La Liga's reputation (Latino players tend to dive the most), and EPL fans who only watch El Clasico every year and no other La Liga match think poorly of us Spanish teams. But you shouldn't be talking. British players dive as well, and you should keep your mouth shut as long as you have Gareth Bale, Ashley Young and co. in your country. Not that I'm disrespecting EPL teams or players (honestly, Lampard is one of my all time favorites), but I'm just saying this to the EPL fans who only watch El Clasico and no other La Liga match.

would have been awesome if there would be created a league with 20 teams. Top 5 from each of "the big 4" leagues.

and under that a league with 6-10 from the big 4. top 2 teams get promoted.
another league under that and so on...

@COYS: That's precisely my point. If one wishes to dismiss the period from 1977 to 1984 when 7 out of 8 European Cups went to English teams (with 6 in a row) as being 'ancient history', then guess what? The same applies to the Italian domination of the late 80s and early 90s, as well as Valencia and Real Madrid last getting to a final over 10 years ago.

Valencia got to a semi in 2005/2006, you remind us? Well, good for them. Do you know many years it has been since there was not at least one PL semi-finalist? How about two of them? There's been a couple of times when there were 3 of them, in fact.

The stats just do not compare, bro. Like I said, if things are starting to shift, then we'll see, over the next couple of seasons. But anyone who believes that the strength of La Liga (or Bundesliga, for that matter) is greater than that of the PL has to still contend with the facts that there has been only one year in the last 8 where the CL Final did not contain an English team, that the only La Liga team to be there has been Barca, and the only German team has been Bayern, who have not actually won it, either.

It's just ignoring reality, and unfortunately, no, the Europa League just doesn't count. It's a second-tier competition, for second-tier teams. Aside from Barca and Real, there is nothing in La Liga that is better than, say, Porto or Benfica, and I don't think anyone is considering them the best teams in Europe.

We'll see, over the next couple of seasons. But until the semis and finals begin filling up with teams other than Barca and Bayern and English clubs on a regular basis, all anyone can say is that they prefer La Liga's style of play, which is a poor argument to make in terms of judging actual strength.

Abnormal seasons happen, dude. It's how Inter won in 2010, and Porto won in 2004.

In fact, 2004 was an odd year all round. Didn't Greece win Euro 2004? Hail Panathinaikos! ;)

2004 was a good year. Valencia won La Liga:)

+dont agree with you on the Porto, Benfica part. they are on the level with Malaga, Atletico, Valencia, Sevilla (normal form)

and also, does your memory work, inter was top 3 teams in europe 2010....

And EL is a strong indicator to see which level the middle teams holds in a league..

1) You.. ended up agreeing with me, about Porto, Benfica vs Malaga Atletico Valencia etc. 

2) Inter being one of the top 3 in Europe was a very short-lived thing. Abnormal, as I said. Just like Monaco and Porto.

3) Maybe it is to you, and maybe that's why the leagues you like take it seriously. I don't know if you're getting the point that the EL to the PL teams is a distraction, instead. See, because the top-tier in the PL is so much larger than elsewhere, there's more incentive to try and get into it, rather than settle for going for second-tier honours.

That's why our larger clubs keep fielding reserve squads for EL ties. Hell, most people don't even watch the games.

For the entertainment - EPL wins by faarr

@Lodatz

Just sayin', Inter winning wasn't a fluke. How can you say that? They won the treble that year, and they beat Barcelona, Bayern, and Chelsea on their way to lift the trophy. Saying that this was a fluke is rather ridiculous.

@Dynastian98: I didn't say it was a fluke. I said it was a abnormal year. Inter earned everything they won, for sure.

What happened to them the season after, though?

Strange years happen, is all I'm saying, and don't necessarily show trends.

"For the entertainment - EPL wins by faarr" thats your own opinion. Mind that some people doesn't share that....

@knibis,

Porto is a better team compared to all the ones you mentioned -- Atletico, Valencia, Malaga and especially Sevilla. You will see what I mean when Porto and Malaga face in the last sixteen (unless something unexpected happens). Benfica, however, is on the level of Atletico and above the others. Finished.

Malaga is historically a bottom team in La Liga..The best teams in the marathon table behind barca are Sevilla, Atletic, Atletico and Valencia.

I would love to see these 4 teams + Malaga transfer to PL or bundesliga.. im positvite they would be able to fight for the title

I'm positive half of them would be beaten by Swansea.

Haha, don't have too high expectations, knibis. If Sevilla, Atheltic, Atletico, Valencia and Malaga all moved to the EPL, they'd probably fight for a Europe League. No more. United, City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs are all above the level of the aforementioned.

@Lodatz, you`re too snowed in on PL 
@Golden. no i dont think so

this is gonna be a never ending discussion

@knibis: No, I've just been watching all the teams in question, and Swansea are better than Sevilla, and are about the same as Malaga and Bilbao. Maybe Atletico Madrid and Valencia are a slight cut above, but they're certainly no better than Spurs, Arsenal or Everton, and despite their crappy season, a Newcastle with Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Collocini, Tixote and Cisse are hardly something to be brushed aside by a team who were 0-5 against Real Madrid at half-time. 

Just face it, dude: you're too snowed in on La Liga, instead.

im not saying liga is better..
im saying the quality of our sides in Europe is decreasing. while the others are advancing.. Look at Dortmund.. there going crazy and outclassed Real Madrid Ajax and Manchester City in easily the most difficult group of this years tournament. while Schalke 04 continues to play really good in Europe as well ..Bayern being Bayern as usual.
while our English contenders are starting to slip away.. Arsenal continues with its Early eliminations while Liverpool has not returned yet.. Chelsea's quality in the tournament is starting to deteriorate and if it wasn't for Di mateo's crazy tactics last season then it would of been the same fate,

We are still the best for sure. But what im trying to say is the other leagues are catching up.. Mainly La Liga  (Malaga is playing really good in Europe and Valencia despite domestic stuggles usually do pretty good in the Champions league)and the Bundesliga  (Bayern,Dortmund,Schalke in the UCL and there other sides in the UEL)and now PSG is emerging as france's new X factor, so there rivals will definately follow suit to keep up with them and spend. and we shouldnt be mad.. competition will keep us entertained.

i like how you put in our result against real i knew you would. you can never give exemples like that (single matches). then i can begin with man u 1-6 and arsenal 8-2. you cant just judge anyting on single matches. Barca beat real 5-0. real won the season after that

We changed our tactic. the truth was the we should have won the game at bernabeu in september if it wasnt for the ref. in the last cup game we were the better team.but because we were the better team.. our coach decided to change tactics and. You cant play an extreamly high defensive line against worlds best counter attacking team...

and about sevilla. even Valladolid is better than them.

@COYS: I agree that Arsenal and Liverpool are not the forces they once were, but Bayern beating the the Gunners this year is not a dead certainty. Sure, they're massive underdogs, but Wenger's team still has grand performances in them. 

Chelsea are in transition, I think. Oscar and Hazard are brand new, and have been dazzling at times, and Mata is becoming one of the best attacking midfielders in the world. They've got a strong spine, with Cech, Cahill, Ivanovic, Luiz and Ramires, and still have Cole for another year. As they start to phase out the old guard and replace them with strong young talent, I think Chelsea will be back in the heavyweight zone in a year or two.

In the meanwhile, don't forget that while some are in decline, some are on the up, too. Everton have been a great team, and I would pit any of the Bundesliga rising teams against them, expecting an easy match. And don't forget Spurs, who rampaged through Inter and AC Milan a couple of seasons back, and should have been in this year's CL. There's a hell of a squad being put together at the Lane, that is hungry for top honours.

When you say that Valencia 'usually do pretty good in the CL', I have to wonder whether you're watching games from the last ten years, or from the last century. Real Madrid won 5 European Cups in a row in the 50s. Nice history, but it means nothing today.

And (yes, knibis, I'm sorry to have singled out Valencia) that's pretty much the crux of the argument, here. The PL is not exactly down and out, despite being weakened by transition, and still has two teams in the CL this year. If Man U were facing Malaga, instead of Madrid, who would you really put money on? If Arsenal were facing Schalke, would that not be a different proposition to facing Bayern?

Like I've said before, both La Liga and the Bundesliga have a LOT to prove before we start acknowledging some kind of power shift. Maybe this year will be Real's year, or Bayern's, but I doubt it. I'd put money on Barcelona, instead, as they're back to brilliance, and since two of the English haven't shown up, the teams who historically give Barca any kind of competition are cut in half. :p

oops, I meant to say even* match, not easy, re: Everton vs Bundesliga teams. I'm also not counting Bayern, in this instance.