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_Gonzi_
8 years ago
imo sevilla is a way bigger upgrade from arsenal
i change this to:
sevilla is a way bigger upgrade from arsenal.
thanks dynastian for the info. juanmata?? memes are cool i guess, but they don't refute facts.
_Gonzi_
8 years ago
although that's what i think. I don't actually believe alexis will go to sevilla. Because he's already been heavily associated with barca in the past. When alexis left from barca to arsenal, that was a huge downgrade for him. He'll be looking to win trophies, and he'll choose a better team. I'm just hoping he doesn't come to juve.
amir_keal
8 years ago
Dynastian98
If you're going to make factual statements, at least back it up with facts.
Wenger leagues: 3
Sevilla leagues: 1
I'm not really proud to say that since our last league was in 2004. However, it's backed up with facts. I believe that Sánchez has a bigger chance winning leagues at Arsenal.
If we look at it this way, Wenger won't stay, and since Sánchez wants to keep strong relationships with his managers to ensure regular playing time, as well as his wage demands, I doubt he will go to Sevilla. He has that first bit, but not the second. China seems likely for me.
KTBFFHSWE
8 years ago
I'm just saying that sevilla should be considered a top team with the likes of juve, real, barca, chelsea?, bayern, psg. we'll have to see sevilla v bayern in this present time to judge sevilla
What are you smoking? Sevilla has finished 7th, 5th, 5th, 9th, 9th, 5th the last seasons.
Top team? In the likes of Juve, Chelsea or Bayern? Nopp.
And when it comes to CL.. Sevilla would stand no chance against Bayern either. The stats below include the arsneal game vs bayern
KTBFFHSWE
8 years ago
They'll have to put up an effort as good as this years for a few years before they can be considered in the absolute top. And when it comes to comparing with Arsenal. I feel like you underestimate the team. Do they belong in the absoluit top? No. But if I look at the stats Arsenal has done as well as Sevilla. In the league Sevilla has 52 points from 24 games, while Arsenal has 50 points from 25 games. Not that big of a difference really. And Sevilla has one of their best seasons for a very long time, while Arsenals is average at the most.
_Gonzi_
8 years ago
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you also have to take into account that sevilla have won major european trophies, multiple, in the past 10 years. in terms of rankings, because of their european success, i do think they are above arsenal in world football club rankings. http://footballdatabase.com/ranking/world/1 < a link for your pleasure
arsenal league finishes
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you also have to take into account that sevilla have won major european trophies, multiple, in the past 10 years. in terms of rankings, because of their european success, i do think they are above arsenal in world football club rankings. http://footballdatabase.com/ranking/world/1 < a link for your pleasure
KTBFFHSWE
8 years ago
Lol, thanks for the info. Still they have Sevilla at 1824 points and Arsenal at 1818 points.. You really need to stretch it far by stating that it would be a big upgrade to go from Arsenal to Sevilla.
quikzyyy
8 years ago
yeah, he told me yesterday he wants to leave for Sunderland to play with mighty Defoe
Dynastian98
8 years ago
I'm not really proud to say that since our last league was in 2004. However, it's backed up with facts. I believe that Sánchez has a bigger chance winning leagues at Arsenal.
Yeah, and we've seen just so much promise from Arsenal, right? You falsely claim Arsenal are more successful than Sevilla, and I prove to you that it is a false claim for the past 10 years. You then proceed to go even further back into history to try and prove Alexis has a better shot at winning a league than Arsenal.
By your logic, he should go to Liverpool. They have 18.
quikzyyy
8 years ago
how has Sevilla any chance of winning the title?
Dynastian98
8 years ago
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Did I say Sevilla has any chance of winning the title? Jesus.
My first comment in this thread: Hurts to say, but he won't got to Sevilla for exactly the reasons @JozeMourinho just said. Chances of winning a title are too small, especially if Sampaoli leaves.
Please actually take the time to read my responses.
Did I say Sevilla has any chance of winning the title? Jesus.
_Gonzi_
8 years ago
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arsenal and sevilla both have no chance. done. arsenal haven't had a chance in 4ever.
arsenal and sevilla both have no chance. done. arsenal haven't has a chance in 4ever.
Emobot7
8 years ago
Wow, didn't thougth I would throw an huge argument with that. I don't understand why people keep on going about how Sevilla would not be an upgrade. Of course its not an upgrade but its not any worse and at least, he get to play for coach he know and like. Also, don't forget this is only Sampoali first year and he is already doing very well. And will, yes, its unlikely they win the league or any major title, the same could be said about current Arsenal.
JozeMourinho
8 years ago
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IF Arsenal had a squad ready for Europa league injury free and rested and just settle with winning lower tier teams just enough for a Europa league spot what makes you think they wouldnt be serious title contenders all this years and get a ticket to UCL...I mean at least ONCE? Maybe even aim top 4 and do a good run at UCL like Sevilla does at UCL right now?
Lets mention the fact 1 extra cup? More title contenders? Their name does not simply allow them to finish below top 4?
Arsenal has the name, level and size of a big club problem is they are having a lot of wrong decisions with an owner that is running the club as a money machine and their injury curse which I call a little bit of bad luck too.
Europa league a success but come on its not like a god damn U C L. In my eyes I would prefer the league over it if I was in England/Italy/Spain/Germany/France but lets be real Sevilla is not a title contender in Spain and it will never be, at least Arsenal could live the dream once a while and they never finished 9th in recent history. I mean what is more realistic to you if you were the manager of Sevilla? Beat 3rd/4th/5th placed teams last year or 1st/2nd/3rd placed teams last year? Do the freaking math yourselves.
PS. When tiki says a Chelsea joke about 10th place last year someone tell her we are comparing Arsenal and Sevilla
IF Arsenal had a squad ready for Europa league injury free and rested and just settle with winning lower tier teams just enough for a Europa league spot what makes you think they wouldnt be serious title contenders all this years and get a ticket to UCL...I mean at least ONCE? Maybe even aim top 4 and do a good run at UCL like Sevilla does at UCL right now?
Lets mention the fact 1 extra cup? More title contenders? Their name does not simply allow them to finish below top 4?
Arsenal has the name, level and size of a big club problem is they are having a lot of wrong decisions with an owner that is running the club as a money machine and their injury curse which I call a little bit of bad luck too.
Europa league a success but come on its not like a god damn U C L. In my eyes I would prefer the league over it if I was in England/Italy/Spain/Germany/France but lets be real Sevilla is not a title contender in Spain and it will never be, at least Arsenal could live the dream once a while and they never finished 9th in recent history.
PS. When tiki says a Chelsea joke about 10th place last year someone tell her we are comparing Arsenal and Sevilla
tiki_taka
8 years ago
They do not need him atm anyway, lets not disrespect both teams specially nor the fans.
Arsenal fans are the nicest on FR, its not a reason to mock them or banter them more than others...
Alexis is not going to Sevilla, realistically it's impossible to divide your salary by half at your peak, Manchester City looks more realistic or staying too, no Italian team would pay that amount too, and only PSG or Atletico look as realistic outside England.
Its ultimately turning into a league debate... In term of consistency, transfers, progression, Football quality, pitch.... not many teams are better than " in form" Sevilla, because the word in form is important, if we were discussing Chelsea of last season with the actual it wont be the same.
And like Joze said lets see what the best team in England will do Next year in Europe because we saw what the rest were able to do...
tiki_taka
8 years ago
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@joze Sevilla competes with a strong top 3, lets see what Chelsea will do next season hope they don't do a Tottenham...
And I'm done discussing with you.
@joze Sevilla competes with a strong top 3, lets see what Chelsea will do next season hope they don't do a Tottenham...
And I'm done discussing with you, rather talk to a prostitute about weather...
NerazzurriForLife
8 years ago
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Sevilla is big club , but Sanchez want trophies or at least a big projected , there is also medel wich prezent him Inter's project for next season , We have a strong squad , Chinese owners have money and put 45 mln for him in the summer , also James is a big name on Inter's radar to, Anyway if Sanchez will leave , i think he will go to one of this : Juventus, PSG.
Sevilla is big club , but Sanchez want trophies or at least a big projected , there is also medel wich prezent him Inter's project for next season , We have a strong squad , Chinese owners have money and put 45 mln for him in the summer , also they James is a big name on Inter's radar to, Anyway if Sanchez will leave , i think he will go to one of this : Juventus, PSG.
Jimbet
8 years ago
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Arsenal fans are the nicest on FR
i want alexis to stay. but if he does go, its gonna be either juve, psg or bayern..
Arsenal fans are the nicest on FR
tiki_taka
8 years ago
Thats true, and you should not take it as 100% compliment, depends on how you see things....lol
JuanMata10
8 years ago
@Gonzi: Glad you liked the pic! Regarding your statement.. that's hardly a fact, it's simply a ridiculous opinion.
Just read an article about that and wondered what you guys thought about it. I know its a bit soon to think of it. But clearly, Sanchez seem like he is going to leave and having Sampaoli over there could be enough to convince him to go. He also know spain well, thanks to his time at Barcelona and the fact Sevilla is doing so well right now could help him chose to move there. The only question that remain, could the team pay his wage?
Anyway, I know this might just be an unfounded rumour but to anyone interested, why not share your opinion on the topic? ;)