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@Vendetta, calling my arguments illogical just shows that you don't have much to say. I've already repudiated almost everything you've stated about Hazard not deserving a 3 match suspension. You still replying just shows how much you want to be right. Frankly, that's very childish and immature. One day you'll find out how stupid it is to wrongly defend someone's actions you had no control over, just because you're a fan.
Can we end this argument? I'm sorry but everything you type still makes now sense and has no logic. I've already stated that he apologized, he didn't hurt him so bad to make him go to the hospital, and I have EVIDENCE of Hazard actually just trying to kick the ball from under the ball boy's stomach. Yet still you argue. Show me evidence for why he deserves for more than a 2 game match ban. Yet you still argue that I am backing him up because I'm a fan. I've said in a previous post they're both at fault. I've stated what Hazard did was horrible. Yet you still say I am defending him because I am a fan. Don't you get it? I was never defending him. I was just trying to tell you it isn't fully his fault.
@Vendetta, "I was never defending him. I was just trying to tell you it isn't fully his fault." That is one of the most contradictory things I've ever heard someone say. You said that Hazard's objective was to get the ball from under the ball boy's stomach? No. You will never know what his true intentions were, because you are not in Hazard's head. All we need to know is that he was acting aggressively and violently against someone who was not directly part of the game. That is inexcusable and he deserves at least a 3 match ban for that. Was the ball boy in the wrong? Yes. But Hazard's actions were by no means a justification to the ball boy's time wasting.
Like I said, I wont argue but honestly, did you even bother to see the GIF? The footage has already proved he kicked the ball from underneath his stomach but made contact with his ribs as well.
@Vendetta, You say you don't want to argue, yet you ask if I saw the GIF. Listen, whatever you show will not be enough to convince me or anyone seeing this in an objective and non-biased manner that Hazard does not deserve at least a 3 match suspension.
i think hazard should just snatch the ball away from him rather than risking to kick him. anyway i think hazard deserved yellow card not red card a bit too harsh on hazard. The ball boy should have known better he was just wasting time needlessly when Swansea were already 2-0 up on aggregate.
@TheGame: I'm not tryignt o flare this up again, but honestly? The more I see of the incident, the less I'm convinced Hazard should get anything at all. Yes, he was dumb, but looking at the footage, it's absolutely clear that all he did was try to get the ball out from under the kid. (and succeeded). He got a red card from the ref as the decision of the day, and now it's done. Chalk one up for the young Belgian as a Don't-Do-This-Again, let him give a public apology, and then we can all forget about it.
The video shows pretty much everything, and I have to admit, if I were a Chelsea player I'd have the same look on my face as Hazard and Mata as the ball-boy was escorted from the pitch. :p
@Lodatz, mate I firmly believe the FA should ban him for at least three matches to show that his behavior is inexcusable, no matter what his intentions were. We see this all the time. When a team is losing, the ball boys usually get the ball to their team faster, and when they are winning, they are typically slower to react. It wasn't even Chelsea's ball and Hazard pushed the kid down and kicked him in the ribs. Hazard should have never put himself in that position, and he fully deserves what he gets. People outside of the game should never be subjected to acts of aggression by the players.
He should have done the right thing and tell the ref so he could have a word with the kid
@Fru_Toot: That angle doesn't show the side where it's proven Hazard actually kicked the ball instead.
@TheGame: I can't help but believe that if the FA charge Hazard for this, it will be a victory for time-wasting, cheating and unsportsmanlike conduct. Sure, what Hazard did was stupid, and he got a card for it. He won't be doing that again, I can promise you.
But since we see diving, 'simulation' of injury, time-wasting various other forms of petulance and bad sportsmanship continually on the rise, the very worst thing the FA can do is to further punish someone who got frustrated by the lack of fair play in the first place.
It's very easy for the FA to punish Hazard, and then pretend that they've done something. If they do, then all they'll have done is sidestep having do anything worthwhile.
Is this ever gonna end?
@Lodatz, time-wasting, cheating and unsportsmanlike conduct will always be part of the game. I think we had this conversation before where we have different views on diving. My view is that it is the referees job to deal with these issues. The ball boy was time wasting, but there were other ways of dealing with the issue instead of violence. Our views are different against what is worse. It won't be a victory for time-wasting since almost everyone acknowledges that the ball boy was at fault. The response of Hazard to that situation is what the FA will criticize and punish him for.
@TheGame: Oh, I'm not disagreeing that Hazard's response was a bad one. I'm just saying: for heaven's sake it wasn't that bad, and punishing him further does send the message that it pays to wind the opposition players up.
Who cares what happens to the kid? The only thing that will matter is that Chelsea lose one of their best players for 3 matches, over something which was dealt with by the ref.
Start banning players for having warm-blooded reactions just opens the door for any number of attempts to goad players into overreacting, in order to gain an advantage from their dismissal/banning.
That's not good. That needs to stop. The best thing the FA can do, is to now do nothing.
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@Lodatz, well that's where we disagree. Where you feel his reaction wasn't that bad, I and the FA feel that it was hellacious. Goading from the fans has always been and always will have a place in the game. So I don't buy the argument that this will provoke more of it. Contrary, if the FA do nothing, they will set a precedent that players can do these types of things without facing hefty penalties.
Do what type of things? Kick the ball out from underneath someone who is hiding it? Don't forget, we can see now that is all he did. Silly at the time, and worthy of a red card, but, that's actually all he did.
Just wanted to get people's opinions on this red card and Hazard's decision making in this incident.
Laws state that it is a red card but do you think it was fair?
Was there any need for Hazard to even get involved just to save what in all reality was just going to be a few extra seconds and did the red card ultimately cost his team, although I don't think it did as Chelsea were poor all game.
For those who didn't see it, Hazard was sent off for a kicking a ball boy in the body in an attempt to get the ball out from underneath him. Am sure I or someone can post up a video in here for those who missed it.