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Hazard's Red Card
Jimskeleton 12 years ago
Tottenham Hotspur, England 7 728

Just wanted to get people's opinions on this red card and Hazard's decision making in this incident.

Laws state that it is a red card but do you think it was fair?

Was there any need for Hazard to even get involved just to save what in all reality was just going to be a few extra seconds and did the red card ultimately cost his team, although I don't think it did as Chelsea were poor all game.

For those who didn't see it, Hazard was sent off for a kicking a ball boy in the body in an attempt to get the ball out from underneath him. Am sure I or someone can post up a video in here for those who missed it.

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Lodatz 12 years ago
Tottenham Hotspur, England 150 4992

@Dynastian: Right, but you made it a 'culture' thing. And I was just saying: "Well, hang on a second..." ;)

Personally, I agree with you that the ball-boy was obviously obstructing Hazard, and was being a little toe-rag. Sure, that doesn't mean Hazard is excused for his disgraceful reaction, but I have to facepalm at attempts to paint this little (unharmed) kid as a victim of some horrendous crime. 

Twenty years ago, he'd probably have just gotten a yellow, to be honest. :p

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man_utd 12 years ago
Manchester United, South Korea 91 1444

I'm neutral on this. The ball boy did keep the ball away from Hazard. But that doesn't mean that Hazard had the right to kick him. There were much more discrete ways he could've have gotten the ball. He could have asked first. And if he didn't even give the ball away at that point, just call one of the Swansea players or some official and I'm sure they would've gotten the ball back. However I guess there is some rule from the comments on the highlights that said a ball boy shouldn't be bias so both of them are on the wrong side here.

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dreamerdreamer 12 years ago
Manchester United, England 0 8

shame on you hazard.. 
dont beat that child

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expertfootball11 12 years ago
Real Madrid, France 64 2837

Just a question, why the ball boy was in the gorund when Hazard kicked him? Deserved red card, though.

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Vendetta 12 years ago
Chelsea FC, Egypt 202 3025

Honestly from what I saw Hazard tried to dig the ball out from the boy. What he did was inexcusable but oh my goodness was that kid a complete brat for provoking a reaction out of a professional player by laying on the ball. A ball boy shouldn't delay a game and then roll around on the ground for getting a reaction he deserved. Anyone of us in that game would have been short tempered and wanting the ball back straight away if we are losing on aggregate. From my observations, Hazard simply wanted to pop the ball out from underneath the boy's stomach. Imagine if it was Balotelli not Hazard...

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ikoiko 12 years ago
Arsenal, Spain 53 853

Red for sure, ugly on Hazard's part. But the kid was being a twit as well.
Hazard, buy the boy some ice cream and you shan't be banned.

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Jeffrey_Hazard 12 years ago
Chelsea, France 81 456

reality:both are in the wrong,ball boy was keeping the ball from hazard and hazard was frustrated then kick him both were wrong nuff said

chelsea haters:OH MY GOD HAZARD YOU FUCKING DISGRACE,POOR BALL BOY,WHAT HAZARD DID WAS DISGRACEFUL,SHAME ON YOU SHAME ON YOU,WHAT BALL BOY DID WAS NOTHING WRONG HE WANTED TO GIVE THE BALL TO HAZARD ETC.

All charges have been dropped and they've apoligised to each other.... Stop it now. It's happened.

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Vendetta 12 years ago
Chelsea FC, Egypt 202 3025

One more thing to add: Am I the only one who saw the full thing before the kick? Where Hazard was actually trying to roll the ball boy around or snatch the ball with his hands? The ball boy refused to give it, so why wait for some official to go walking to him(wasting time), then telling him to give the ball back(wasting time), while Swansea would mark our players and get an advantage by going back to their positions and being defensive in the last 10 minutes(time used against us). The ballboy overreacted. I already said this before but just imagine if that was someone like Gattuso, Balotelli, Ibra, or Roy Keane? If your going to play with fire you will get burnt.

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man_utd 12 years ago
Manchester United, South Korea 91 1444

@Vendetta
Dude. I'm not even going to try to argue with you.
I said both are wrong. Stop getting your panties in a twist.
It's happened. Get over it.
Why try to provoke an argument?

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Vendetta 12 years ago
Chelsea FC, Egypt 202 3025

Is sharing an opinion wrong? I get both of them are wrong, but why even block Hazard from getting the ball? He is being a complete cunt like that. If Hazard more than 1 game ban, I'm going to be dissapointed by the FA's judgment. What makes it worse is like what Jeffrey said, people just dish it out on him and not the ball boy. Anyone would have done the same in the dying moments of a game.

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man_utd 12 years ago
Manchester United, South Korea 91 1444

@Vendetta
Sharing an opinion isn't wrong. I never said it was.
It's just that seeing people arguing about something so petty is sad and pathetic.
As I have said already, Hazard and the ball boy are both at fault.
And what are you going to get out of arguing? It's not going 
to change shite. I'm trying to be neutral but you Chelsea fans
just moaning about this situation is starting make me want to side with the ball boy.
Get over it, and I'm sure that's what a lot of people want to say too.

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Vendetta 12 years ago
Chelsea FC, Egypt 202 3025

Moaning? What are we moaning about exactly? The fact we agree Hazard is also at fault is moaning? The fact I agree that he deserves a ban is moaning? Chelsea have a bad reputation and this scenario makes it worse for the fans. What you call a petty and sad argument is important to talk about for Chelsea fans. If you don't enjoy it then just don't bother viewing or posting in this thread. Weren't you the one who stated you are not going to argue?

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man_utd 12 years ago
Manchester United, South Korea 91 1444

Jesus Christ. Did you seriously just ask what you guys were moaning about?

Are you just oblivious to what you said? You guys are moaning about how it's not Hazard's fault.
It doesn't seem like you "agreed" about it being Hazard's fault. You did say it's both of their fault but
went on and on about how the ball boy was a retard, if Hazard got a 1 match suspension, you would 
be "disappointed". Doesn't seem like you "agreed".
"Chelsea have a bad reputation and this scenario makes it worse for the fans." - I've never seen you say (maybe you have) that Chelsea's reputation was bad. Ever. It's irrelevant and just pathetic of you to bring that up.
"If you don't enjoy it then just don't bother viewing or posting in this thread." - Kind of ironic since you were going menstrual 
about saying "is sharing an opinion wrong?" Which brings me on to my next point.
"What you call a petty and sad argument is important to talk about for Chelsea fans." - Correct me if I'm wrong but you and Jefferey_Hazard are the only one's who've posted on this thread. And at least he had the balls to admit that Hazard and the ball boy were both wrong and to GET OVER IT.
I did indeed say that I was not going to argue. But here's the thing. When you players do something. It's time to man up, and admit your players did something wrong. And you may go on and on about how you're protecting you team's pride or whatever and trying to make Chelsea's "reputation".
However, there is being protecting your team's pride and becoming arrogant. When United get's favorable decisions towards the referee, when I realize that "Oh. The referee made a shite decision there."

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Vendetta 12 years ago
Chelsea FC, Egypt 202 3025

Honestly, can you read? I already admitted it's also Hazard's fault. I would be disappointed at the FA's judgment because they apologized to each other. That's why. I completely agree it is also Hazard's fault and apparently you can't read my previous post. I said "Chelsea have a bad reputation and this scenario makes it worse for the fans." because it is true. This gets the fans annoyed by the bad reputation our club has and the Hazard/ball boy incident makes it worse. Take a look at this: <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2267357/Eden-Hazard-ball-boy-incident-dragged-Chelsea-gutter-more.html> It's already starting. See?  There is also a difference between sharing my opinion and you continuing to get annoyed by my posts. The simple solution is to just not post or view this thread. Yet still you are arguing with me. So how is it ironic? As for me and Jeffrey only posting, remember that there are many more sites where Chelsea fans discuss this topic and if you want to see them just ask. I have seen over 400 posts about this incident in a Chelsea site including the 200 posts from the Hazard apology thread. I am not protecting Chelsea's reputation. I am stating this makes Chelsea's reputation worse and have already state Hazard should have not kicked him and that it was inexcusable. Next time read what I posted before first before saying I don't agree Hazard had part to do with it. I don't see why you wouldn't agree the ball boy is an ass. He clearly blocked the ball even though Hazard was actually trying to take it off him with his hands and rolling him around first to get a hold of the ball. Yet still he did not give the ball, Hazard couldn't do anything but kick him(the kick didn't even seem that hard. I'm not sure though.). How does that not prove that the ball boy is a retard/ass?

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Heisinburg 12 years ago
Manchester United 67 1516

It's always a bloody fight between you two, isn't it?

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JuanMata10 12 years ago
Chelsea, Austria 17 1696

this little cunt totally deserved this

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Vendetta 12 years ago
Chelsea FC, Egypt 202 3025

Last time I checked, this is the first time I argue with man_utd :/.

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Heisinburg 12 years ago
Manchester United 67 1516

the last time I checked, it was a few months back when you and Jeff_Hazard had a feud with man_utd on the chat, and every time I see you guys present, there's always a fight that awaits.

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Vendetta 12 years ago
Chelsea FC, Egypt 202 3025

*This is the first time I argue with man_utd last time I checked.

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Vendetta 12 years ago
Chelsea FC, Egypt 202 3025

Actually that was with United_Hates_Blues and we solved our issues. I've never argued with him before in the chat either.

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