Actually even Pedro couldnt shit, but what a bunch of hypocrits, first Ivanovic then Their best coach ever Terry, then Cahill, then Cesc and Costa and now people claiming that Pedro isnt a big team material just like Di Maria last year....

Funny though to get insulted or mentionned by some people who watch this sport like any TV show following the wind, let Pedro Cesc COsta Terry Cahill leave, you dont deserve them anyway...

Pedro has his limits, but the problem of Chelsea is clearly not the quality of their players, i remember his first game at Chelsea and then now, if your club ruin players then you can nly blame your management. Peace :)

Sure Mata, Silva, Coutinho, KDB, Mahrez, Vardy are at least +99 on physicality, the reason why they perform so well on that league...
The eternal argument of he couldnt do much because the league is too strng makes me laugh each single time, CL IS MUCH MORE STRONGER THAN BPL LEVEL SO GET OVER IT. The problem is not Di Maria or Pedro level or physicality, that the team they play in ATM by the way PSG says THANK YOU. Lets see if Chelsea is too physical for Angel they are meeting soon.

Sure Mata, Silva, Coutinho, KDB, Mahrez, Vardy are at least +99 on physicality, the reason why they perform so well on that league...
The eternal argument of he couldnt do much because the league is too strng makes me laugh each single time, CL IS MUCH MORE STRONGER THAN BPL LEVEL SO GET OVER IT. The problem is not Di Maria or Pedro level or physicality, the problem is teams they played in ATM by the way PSG says THANK YOU. Lets see if Chelsea is too physical for Angel they are meeting soon.

Sure Mata, Silva, Coutinho, KDB, Mahrez, Vardy are at least +99 on physicality, the reason why they perform so well on that league...
The eternal argument of he couldnt do much because the league is too strng makes me laugh each single time, CL IS MUCH MORE STRONGER THAN BPL LEVEL SO GET OVER IT. The problem is not Di Maria or Pedro level or physicality, the problem is teams they played in ATM by the way PSG says THANK YOU. Lets see if Chelsea is too physical for Angel they are meeting soon.

sURE facing Tottenham or Sunderland is much more complicated than facing Netherland of 2010 or United of 2011, Love this logic...

Also it is about timy by posting youtube videos of any player it will only show their good moments on the pitch.

Funny How you talk about me each single Time then...,

Pedro just fitted well into Barcelona . That is all . @sunshine has made a good description of what we got from him so far .

Hazard was crap on purpose . @tiki We already figured that one out . Pedro on the other hand still being crap . Hazard came on towards the end of second half against Arsenal and ended match very well .

Also turns out Mourinho did not have a lot to say on half of the signings so Pedro might as well be our sporting directors choice . Therefore Mutual . Maybe we have high expectation of Pedro and should wait until he performs but like @sunshine mentioned he does looses ball often and it has become annoying . So I hope he fixes that part at least .

CL IS MUCH MORE STRONGER THAN BPL LEVEL SO GET OVER IT

I will never compare domestic league with knockout competition . One may have a terrible domestic season but doing very well in CL . I still don't know why you don;t get this simple fact .

teams managed by billionnaire buisnessmen with no Football knowledge, wondering why Spalshing on players can not even get the to CL quarters

Says the fan of the club who splash big money on every transfer market . Would you like to say that without Suarez and Neymar you would still win CL ?

Would Real Madrid win CL without investing heavily into team ?

Money money money rules the Europe . You are delusional to deny it .Atletico has spent good amount too you are acting as they got Griezman from their academy .. However still How long will Atletico last ? Dortmund hit jackpot with talents but they did not last long after loosing their best players and now still struggle at times .

Modern football simply does not allow low budget clubs to exist at the top level for too long . It is a fact that you constantly trying to deny with your opinion . It is good to have opinion but lets look at facts.

The first team of BPL atm is not the richest nor the most talented WHY
? because youor beloved clubs are managed by gold diggers...

And yours too . In EPL things change in matter of 2-3 weeks . Leicester will not last . You can bet money on it . Fact that they are on top of the table still unexplainable but good fortune that they collected good team with good players . They won't last and next season they won't be title contenders because they will loose their players . Like Southampton lost their players . So relax your argument is weak .

Hazard was crap on purpose : No
Pedro might as well be our sporting directors choice . : No

And yes you may be right about knock out competitions not being the same thing as a league competition, but we can compare the team level there.
The difference between Barça and Real Madrid spending is that they spend big, and get the results they need/expect....While an English team could spend 300 million a season and still struggle to beat a Europeen small team, you can see it as Spanish teams overachiving or English clubs Underachieving comparing to their budgets....

Hazard was crap on purpose : No
Pedro might as well be our sporting directors choice . : No

And yes you may be right about knock out competitions not being the same thing as a league competition, but we can compare the team level there.
The difference between Barça and Real Madrid spending is that they spend big, and get the results they need/expect....While an English team could spend 300 million a season and still struggle to beat a Europeen small team, you can see it as Spanish teams overachiving or English clubs Underachieving comparing to their budgets.... And both vision doesnt need a league excuse/argument to be explained.

Hazard was crap on purpose : No
Pedro might as well be our sporting directors choice . : No

And yes you may be right about knock out competitions not being the same thing as a league competition, but we can compare the team level there.
The difference between Barça and Real Madrid spending is that they spend big, and get the results they need/expect....While an English team could spend 300 million a season and still struggle to beat a Europeen small team, you can see it as Spanish teams overachiving or English clubs Underachieving comparing to their budgets.... And both vision doesnt need a league excuse/argument to be explained.

We may not agree on everything or have the same vision and its what a forum is about, but at least you gave your argument and i gave mine without getting into childish arguments, you saved the thread in a way with sunflash because knowing how LOW it started, it was going to end even lower...

Hazard was crap on purpose : No
Pedro might as well be our sporting directors choice . : No

And yes you may be right about knock out competitions not being the same thing as a league competition, but we can compare the team level there.
The difference between Barça and Real Madrid spending is that they spend big, and get the results they need/expect....While an English team could spend 300 million a season and still struggle to beat a Europeen small team, you can see it as Spanish teams overachiving or English clubs Underachieving comparing to their budgets.... And both vision doesnt need a league excuse/argument to be explained.

For Atletico and Dortmund, they got Griezmann and others for less than 30 mil euros, and by their pitch knowledge and ability to make them progress and feel at home, they could take 100% of their players while teams like Liverpool or City spend double amount on players who end up inconsistent or getting marketting signings without any probable progression or potential, without pointing he rock star life and veneration of players there who may kill any consistence or progression of a talented youngster.

We may not agree on everything or have the same vision and its what a forum is about, but at least you gave your argument and i gave mine without getting into childish arguments, you saved the thread in a way with sunflash because knowing how LOW it started, it was going to end even lower...

Hazard was crap on purpose : No
Pedro might as well be our sporting directors choice . : No

And yes you may be right about knock out competitions not being the same thing as a league competition, but we can compare the team level there.
The difference between Barça and Real Madrid spending is that they spend big, and get the results they need/expect....While an English team could spend 300 million a season and still struggle to beat a Europeen small team, you can see it as Spanish teams overachiving or English clubs Underachieving comparing to their budgets.... And both vision doesnt need a league excuse/argument to be explained.

For Atletico and Dortmund, they got Griezmann and others for less than 30 mil euros, and by their pitch knowledge and ability to make them progress and feel at home, they could take 100% of their players while teams like Liverpool or City spend double amount on players who end up inconsistent or getting marketting signings without any probable progression or potential, without pointing he rock star life and veneration of players there who may kill any consistence or progression of a talented youngster.

For me the physical demand may be an argument only if we take him as the small visible part of the Iceberg, other league players arent taken cocktails on the pitch, they also play rough Football everywhere else in Europe, focusing on how physically hard can a league be is not just enough to explain the underachieving of the the English top flight and this is why i always bring CL or any other international competition...

We may not agree on everything or have the same vision and its what a forum is about, but at least you gave your argument and i gave mine without getting into childish arguments, you saved the thread in a way with sunflash because knowing how LOW it started, it was going to end even lower...

Hazard was crap on purpose : No
Pedro might as well be our sporting directors choice . : No

And yes you may be right about knock out competitions not being the same thing as a league competition, but we can compare the team level there.
The difference between Barça and Real Madrid spending is that they spend big, and get the results they need/expect....While an English team could spend 300 million a season and still struggle to beat a Europeen small team, you can see it as Spanish teams overachiving or English clubs Underachieving comparing to their budgets.... And both vision doesnt need a league excuse/argument to be explained.

For Atletico and Dortmund, they got Griezmann and others for less than 30 mil euros, and by their pitch knowledge and ability to make them progress and feel at home, they could get 100% of their players while teams like Liverpool or City spend double amount on players who end up inconsistent or getting marketting signings without any probable progression or potential, without pointing he rock star life and veneration of players there who may kill any consistence or progression of a talented youngster.

For me the physical demand may be an argument only if we take him as the small visible part of the Iceberg, other league players arent taken cocktails on the pitch, they also play rough Football everywhere else in Europe, focusing on how physically hard can a league be is not just enough to explain the underachieving of the the English top flight and this is why i always bring CL or any other international competition...

We may not agree on everything or have the same vision and its what a forum is about, but at least you gave your argument and i gave mine without getting into childish arguments, you saved the thread in a way with sunflash because knowing how LOW it started, it was going to end even lower...