With 12 league games to go, Pep’s tenure at Bayern is coming to an end. So I decided to ask the question. How would you rate Pep at Bayern?

Instead of rambling about my thoughts on Pep, I’m just going to make it short and sweet. I’m indifferent to Pep. Thought he did an okay job. Yes there were some major flaws in his reign such as the Champions League semifinals. But he kept us a consistent force in the Bundesliga and Champions League (at least until the semis). In short, he didn’t ruin or improve Bayern. Bring on Ancelotti.

He did what he needed to do I guess. Didn't change much, just bought some replacements and sold some of the long time Bayern players. Made some players flexible (Lahm, Alaba)

He brought tiki- taka into Bayern which has helped them a lot but I feel they played better football in that last season with Heynckes.

Bayern failed to win CL and have had some pretty bad defeats in the CL ( 3-0 against Barcelona, 4-0 against Madrid)

They've dominated Bundesliga which was obviously to be expected after they bought Lewa and Gotze...

Overral he hasn't improved them or made them worse he's just refined them a little and changed the play style.

Agree with ramaboy on all counts.

I think he made them a little more dynamic in adding the Tiki. Now they can flex into a style depending on the need of the game and be very adaptable. Outside that, they are doing what most expect for the league. They are still one of the top 3 or 4 teams in the world hands down and no team will win the CL every year no matter what you do. (Some rare exceptions of course)

I agree with both above, he has not made a huge impact. It is hard as he got a team that was already nasty on a global scale. One of the knocks for him as coach is taking teams that already have a really strong base. Would be interesting to see him take one and have to build it.

@DarthFooty Well at Man City he will have to do a lot of building compared to Barca and Bayern.

@LVG Surely they are not as stacked as Barca and Bayern, but they are not hurting either compared to many other EPL teams. He will attract some top talent because players will want to play for him and the team can pay top dollar. It will be fun to watch how the team changes to his style. I look forward to it actually.

I am a Manchester United fan but I really want the league to be exciting and have great competition. This year has been a lot of fun for the league with Leicester and Spurs being 1 and 2. It is nice to see the title race be open and different. As much as I like United to win everything, all the time, I crave exciting games more than anything.

Poor.

@Chelsea8

On what basis? No arguments = no validity to your comment.

On the real, I think Pep has done just what @Ramaboy said he has. Tweaked the team here and there, but hasn't really improved or made them any worse than they were before. His CL results have truly been terrible at the semi-final stage, but in all the stages before that he has been great. It's just that Ancelotti has more experience than him and beat him in tactics, and MSN was too much for him to handle against Barca.

Do i really have to explain, it's really obvious that bayern under pep has been poor, he took the exact same team that won the treble and destroyed barcelona in ucl and could only go to the semi finals in the ucl and got destroyed bcuz of his lack of tactics.
Pep doesn't have a plan B in his game plan his teams always play the same way.

@Chelsea8

Yes, you do have to explain. Unfortunately, I don't have mind-reading abilities. Pep has won 5 trophies in 2 seasons at Bayern, so just saying "Poor" doesn't signify anything. Thank you for explaining your stance, though. I don't agree with you, but at least now I understand what you mean. It seems as if averaging 2.5 trophies a season is considered "Poor." to certain people nowadays.

I think he did great, took best team in the world (in that time). It's not that easy to make the team even better. The games before he took over were more dynamic, more lovely to watch as @ramaboy said. The tiki-taka IMO didn't suit them that well.
I would say 7/10 of expectations.

Sadly he took a team that just won the CL so he would always be evaluated on that basis. He has won almost everything domestically and his Bayern is a joy to watch. I would say 8/10 only because of how he got trashed in both previous CL knockouts.

Made them a league monster teams, a little less in cups even if he won plenty, his teams has the concistency and he knows how to keep them motivated, not a hard task considering the clubs he managed.
When he arrives some dressing room leaders are asked to leave ( bye Toure at City ), he gives place to youngsters, Busquets and Pique were absolute strangers before Pep spell at Barça, and he probably saved 60m by going for Koman from Juve Bench ( How did they let him go at that price while it was written he is on Pogba footsteps ), also went for Douglas Costa and Vidal awesome signings....
Last year he could have won Cl if not Messi first leg magic, his plan was actually working....

Results : 17/20 for Bayern, for any team outside top 3 in Europe it could have been 19/20, keeping consistency in a league isnt easy Ask Mourinho and Bundesliga teams are clearly underrated because of BAyern results.
Signings : 17/20 pretty good mark only Mario Gotze management to blame but lacking dressing room infos...
Tactics : 16/20 his Cl results despite reaching semi-finals in a row wich not many coaches could do with good players t their disposal, but then again Bayern direction know How to bring results and success, pretty good management.

We compare Pep to Heycknes, its much more complicated to win Cl when you are the holder, and Heynecke didnt face Msn nor a good defensive BArca, so its harsh and unfair to say he failed comparing to him.

As a human, i dont like Pep, false Guy try to always act nicely in front of a caméra 7/20, but i think Bpl teams should be worried if Pep gives City consistence and possession build ups, City champions next year im pretty sûre of it.

Hahaha "made them a league monster team"^. Ok. As if they weren't already one? No doubt he has made some excellent transfers though. Personally I agree with ramaboys statement 'Overral he hasn't improved them or made them worse he's just refined them a little and changed the play style.'.

Anyways, hey, let's all vote what we think about him in a scale 0-20, because why not, right? I vote him 15. Out of 20.

I give him a 6 out of 10 bcus my grandma could win the bundesliga with bayern.

16/20

"he took the exact same team that won the treble and destroyed barcelona in ucl and could only go to the semi finals in the ucl and got destroyed bcuz of his lack of tactics.
Pep doesn't have a plan B in his game plan his teams always play the same way."

Now that is some bs. No team has ever won Champions League back to back. Reaching Semis would be huge for every other team on this planet but for Pep it is to be expected to win the title every season. And no you or your grandma wouldn't win shit with Bayern. You can't even compare Barcelona 12-13 with Messi injured to the Barca of today.

Pep doesn't have a plan B? Have you ever looked at the formations he is using? It's basically different formations every single game. Tell me one other team in the world that can play 4-2-3-1, 3-3-3-1, 3-2-3-2, 4-3-2-1, 3-4-2-1, 3-5-1-1, another formation every other week and still win and be at the top? Most teams can't even be consistent using the same lineup every week.

Imo, the only game Pep fucked up was the 0-4 against Madrid, and he admitted it was the biggest fuckup of his career. Last year's defeat against Barcelona was due to a brillant MSN and an injury ridden Bayern team, that still held up for 70 minutes in the first leg and won the second 3-2.

Overall, Pep's Bayern crushed Heynckes records, it is a better team today with lots of great transfers made and I'm confident we can go far in CL again, if we stay clear of injuries from now on.

18/20

Guardiola was a great session for Bayern's squad. The tiki taka tactic clearly improved players on the pitch made them even more familiar with the ball and made Bayern deadlier.

His transfers were all fantastic too.

Although he did absolutely nothing great, he just passed his philosophy with 0 success if you ask me. Took a semi-final team to semi-finals and lost the league cup to lesser teams. He gave Ribery a hard time with his injuries as well. As said above winning Bundesliga with Bayern is nothing special when other teams have barely quality to challenge them. In terms of consistency those teams cant challenge them either for a league. So personally I vote for 10/20. Decent performance nothing special.

Some different opinions about Guardiola here. overall, i respect the guy and I'm sure City will become a beast of a team with him as manager next season. After all, it has worked for him before. Anyways, let's change the grading system from 0-26. I vote Guardiola 17/26.

Satisfactory . Yet , underachieved . @ramaboy has put it down well . He was a bit unlucky against Barcelona due to injuries and overall form of MSN was very good .

IMO , Pep is going to be same story in Manchester City , but this time it won't be total domination like he has in Bundesliga.
I think Guardiola is very good manager but I certainly don't think he is a genius tactician like media made it him look like . If he did not make drastic changes with that Bayern team that Heynckes left , he would have reached another final because Madrid was not as good as Bayern made them look to be during that match . Bayern had much better team .

@sterndesuedens aww so cute, somebody got a crush on guardiola.