He will follow diego costa to chelsea for about 20m. I dont like this transfer, he is old and expensive, we should get younger player like luke shaw

@Tiki

His most disappointing game was losing to last-place Sunderland at home. Like Jamie Redknapp said, if you're spending millions upon millions every year, and you still can't beat the last-place team at home, then you need to seriously rethink your tactics. Mou had the same problem at Madrid where he failed to beat the "easier" teams. We haven't seen consistency from him in 3-4 years.

Since the start of the season i knew City were going to win, Mourinho tactics are good when the other team looks for the ball, against Defensive teams, his tactics are clueless, then his reaction was bashing his 3 strikers, everyone isnt Drogba at his prime but Costa signing was brilliant, he doesnt need possesion to score his goal and he doesnt need any teammate to build up, damn if Atleti players goes to Chelsea + Fabregas, they would have many problems of last year solved.

@Dynast: 100 points wasn't consistent?

I think a large part of the inconsistency at Madrid was because he did not have the locker room. With all those egos in there, his position became untenable, and that can be laid at the feet of Perez. Once the players like Ronaldo knew that they were more valuable to the club hierarchy than the coach, any time they disagreed the players could simply ignore Mou any time they liked.

You know how you were saying in the other thread about how Ronaldo is not a captain? I agree, though that doesn't take away from his obvious talent and skill, year after year. But it might be a better explanation for why Madrid underpeformed for the last few years, despite having a frightening squad.

By contrast, look to Inter and Chelsea for examples of clubs in which Mou gets to influence the transfer strategy, and set in place his own, unchallengable authority on first-team matters. Inter won a treble including the CL, and Chelsea won two league titles in a row, beating Barcelona's resurgent team along the way. And this time around, inheriting a squad that only squeaked in 3rd last year, and came 6th the year before that, and came a much more convincing 3rd this time.

The fact that we can talk about Mourinho having thrown away the league, this season, is because of how strong the REST of his season was. He also took Chelsea to a CL semi-final.

In his first season.

Seriously, I think Europe's in for a shock, now that Mou finally has a billionaire owner who is willing to do what he wants, at a club whose fans love him and are prepared to back him to the hilt.

I'd put a good bet on Mou to win the CL again within 2 years, after conquering the PL next season.

@tiki: We've known for a few years now that Chelsea were in a transition period. Now they're building in a direction again, and they have one of the greatest coaches in European history steering the ship.

It could get scary.

^+1. One of the few members here that truly understands what is REALLY happening at Chelsea.

@Lodatz

Yeah, I was speaking from a relative perspective. 100 points is amazing, but it was also achieved by a mediocre Barcelona squad the season after. And considering how frightening Real Madrid's lineup has been on paper over the last few years, it's surprising he didn't achieve 100 points every season. But you're absolutely spot on about everything else, so take my +1.

kinghenry : Luis is Brazilian, so he couldnt anyway play for Spain :).

Well for Chelsea, the PL isnt that dificult they could have won it this year with more consistency of key players, and next year i believe they will have no excuses.
For CL, things are more complicated as Bayern and Madrid are still the same scarry teams, so there will be some competition, but yes if they continue to bring World class players,they will get the results needed.

We are 100 per cent that Chelsea will rise, at least in England, because as Mourinho say they work hard and well, very impressive transfert market, far better from the last year.

The PL is always the most difficult to win. It's the most competitive, after all.

Notice the sly dig at the PL, there, everybody? As if the PL 'isn't that difficult'...

This year, it wasnt at least for City, but i believe the level will increase drastically next year.
I believe any of Spain top 3 could have won it but its just my opinion and i respect yours.

@Lodatz

Most competitive and most difficult to win, I agree. However I have to agree with @Tiki in the fact that the EPL hasn't had the best of teams this season, and I personally believe that any of Spain's top 3 would've been favorites to win the EPL this season.

By the way, I think you're trying to dig at @Tiki too much. Why not take it easy, and let him state his opinion in peace? He didn't go outright and insult the Premier League. He just said it in a matter of perspective from Chelsea for this season alone. I think you're pushing it now, and acting quite immature.

Well Dynast, i feel free to say my point, Lodatz is free to say his, if he cant take mine thats his problem...

Comparing the last confrontations and results in CL and EL, i wonder how he can keep saying this ?

PL champions have shown some limits against a weakened Barça but still more mature and experienced than City.
Everyone in this world saw what did Atletico Madrid to Chelsea at Standford Bridge, and PL teams are being lucky not to face Real Madrid...
Sevilla, Valencia and Even Betis ( relegated ) has been amazing in EL, from the 7 teams participating in Europe, only Sociedad were awful, other teams beated every other team until they faced a Spanish side.

2 Midtable teams in EL semifinals and 2 top 3 teams in CL final.

Mourinho signing la Liga players is a clear sign of where quality is lately, and Manchester United transition left an empty space on the top of PL, in a regular PL season an average Fergie United would have won easily...
Liverpool still need experience, you will see it in CL next year.

Im not saying La liga is better than EPL, im saying that it takes you more competing with Real Madrid and Atletico with this year form, than to win PL with a weak United, a new coach and players City, and a inexperienced Liverpool, but those 3 teams are still in building as Chelsea and City and maybe would reach the Europeen level in the next years if they have some stability.

We are talking about winning the league, not wich has the best bottom teams...

No need to argue, i dont see the utility of debating if someone cant change his view or handle others views...

Great Purchase but I really wanted to see some more English players in our club . We had such success with Gary Cahil purchase , just thought Luke Shaw would have been similar situation , but damn market will probably appraise him in 30 million or something .

@Dynast:

"Most competitive and most difficult to win, I agree"

So what's there to argue about?

"and I personally believe that any of Spain's top 3 would've been favorites to win the EPL this season. "

Oh, this. Well, I could write about 8 paragraphs explaining, in depth, why this is a very silly thing to say, but, I've noticed that facts, figures, statistics and common sense tend to not make the best impression upon certain camps, and so I'm just going to say this, instead:

City would have won La Liga this season, and so would Liverpool. So would Chelsea.

You don't agree? Well then tough, because guess what? It's all about opinion now, instead of facts, figures, stats and common sense. ;) And when it's all about opinion then you can have people say utterly stupid crap, designed to antagonize, and then hide behind it, and have people like you stick up for it.

The fact that you just keep falling for the act is the only thing that really puzzles me. And that's why, also, when you say this:

"I think you're pushing it now, and acting quite immature."

Frankly, I don't care. :) Why? Because you've displayed to me that your judgement is not worth trusting, on this matter. That's my opinion.

Sorry.

I have to highlight one thing in particular, though, because this just cracks me up:

"Yeah, I was speaking from a relative perspective. 100 points is amazing, but it was also achieved by a mediocre Barcelona squad the season after."

And... what does that tell you about how hard it is to win that league, for a mediocre heavyweight?

BY THE WAY, have you noticed that this thread is now an argument about the leagues? Why? Because SOMEONE defended the trolling.

Great.

the title says filipe luis to chelsea. suddenly derailed into pl vs la liga? sheesh. :l ffs it's under TRANSFER RUMOURS. go create a new thread for the la liga vs pl. congrats to chelsea. getting stronger every transfer window.

As much as I love Shaw Rodriguez Moreno, Luis is arguably the best LB in Europe at the moment.

Clichy Kolarov DavidSilva Dzeko Negredo are all 28 so age won't matter that much

But we don't need Tiago, we need to make use of our youngsters like Van Ginkel with Fabregas Ramires Matic and maybe Tiago he will ask for a transfer like De Bruyne. We may even lose Piazon Thorgan and Atsu because of this. When Mou pays big money for players he sees them as amazing and much better than the youngsters we grow. When he buys Costa for example, he would feel as though the 32m would go to waste if we didn't play him all the time, even though Lukaku in my opinion is just as capable. Don't get me wrong, I think Mou is the best manager in the world, but he really needs to think more about our youngsters.

^ Now imagine that those 'youngsters' are players who have been training with Fabregas, Costa, Hazard, Oscar, etc, and I think Chelsea's transfer strategy becomes clearer.

They have bought huge numbers of youth prodigies. Most of these have been loaned out, by now, to see if they're any good. (just like Barca farm out Deulofeu and Cuenca, really) The ones how turn outt o be diamonds, they will be kept. The rest? Sold for deals such as 50m for David Luiz, and 37m for Juan Mata.

That's a lot of funding the first team, in the meanwhile. This group of 'potential' is being introduced to some of the world's best current stars, to train with and compete with.

That can only mean good things for the output of these youngsters.

Cunning, by Abramovic, and helpful for Mourinho.

We know that we buy youngsters loan them and sell them for higher.

It may be good profit but those players have the potential to become stars. e.g Lukaku will one day become one of the best attackers in the world; we can't just sell him.

Being a Chelsea fan, Chelsea scouted them and discovered their talent, so they are almost players that we created. Just like De Bruyne Courtois and Lukaku. I understand the selling of stars like Luiz and Mata but was there any need to sell De Bruyne and sign Salah when De Bruyne is a great player we've created and they are both almost equally talented.

It also gives a bad reputation because with the signing of Costa, Lukaku knows that Chelsea aren't a club that can take their youngsters right up the ranks and in to their XI. Matic was a great buy because we needed a good DM, but we signed Van Ginkel so he could grow into "the next Frank" or something like that. But now we've bought Fabregas. I think Cesc is amazing and one of our better buys. We should sell Ramires but we don't need Modric or Khedira in a swap deal.

Costa and Lukaku should rotate the strike in my opinion with no need to sign Balo or Firmino even though they are great.

One case I fear is Thorgan Hazard. Eden has said himself that Thorgan will be better. We already have Salah Hazard Wilian Oscar Schurlle at offensive midfield positions so at the moment their is no room for Thorgan.

Mou has to take the risk by playing him for a good 5 consecutive games but he isn't prepared to take that risk. I have no doubts that he'll be better than all our attacking midfielders at his prime, but if Mou doesn't take that risk then we'll loan him out until he wants to permanently leave Chelsea.

Once again I admire Mou, but I still don't think he is making the right decision on theses youngsters, especially in Thorgan's and Lucas Piazon's cases.

@Lodatz @tiki, I think everyone agrees that the PL is the most competitive league in Europe, but I am not comprehending the argument here from both of you. Are you saying that if Man City were in La Liga instead of, lets say Real Betis for the purpose of the argument, that City would win la liga? And tiki are you saying that if Barcelona were in the PL instead of Cardiff, Barcelona would win the PL? If so, I believe both of you are wrong. It would take years before either team can adapt to those leagues fast enough to win anything instantaneously. Not to mention the culture of the leagues are completely different. And almost everything that is predicted afterwards is completely hypothetical. The only thing we can really compare are how both teams play against each other. In that case, I agree with tiki when he says that R. Madrid, Barcelona and A. Madrid were each much stronger than the top 4 in the PL. But would being a stronger team necessarily translate to them winning in a brutal and physical 38-game campaign? I don't think so. That requires much more experience. Either way, I feel like if UEFA (not that I endorse them) felt that one league was stronger than the other, they would give them more representation in Europe, which they don't.