@juanmata10 how on earth are u talking so much sense? agreed with every point.
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@juanmata10 how on earth are u talking so much sense? agreed with every point.
I was gonna type up a novel-sized entrance, but I just want to get my point straight:
Mourinho hasn't managed a single club in his career for more than 3 years (if not less). Right now, he's in that EXACT time period of either getting sacked by Abramovich, or given the chance to go through the so called "shit-times in the club" and possibly establish a possible future 10 or so years dynasty of dominance, similar to what Ferguson had to go through with Man United.
Although I may think that Mourinho is partly to blame for such poor management, the real test is whether Abramovich wants to either sack him and go for another manager, or take the risk and see what Mourinho can really do if he carries on managing Chelsea for, possibly, the longest time he's ever managed a club.
"I was gonna type up a novel-sized entrance, but I just want to get my point straight:"
Ikr, this sh*t happens to me also, trying my best to summarize it to a small text, but can't help but keep it long at times. But ye got ur point.
imagine this.. abra sack mou.. then hire klopp.. :O would chelsea fans agree or disagree?
@tuanis
We defend our coach because we know how short tempered is Abramovich who is passionate owner but can't seem to understand that we need time and trust to finish building dynasty . Players fck up but they rarely be sold two months into a new season will they ?
Mourinho risked many things by returning to Chelsea . His pride his ego , risking offers from other clubs showing love for Chelsea . Loyalty should be paid back with loaylty.
Mourinho and team deserves our support in bad times just like they get it in good times ! Only one guy I really show support in different way is Ivanovic , he should sit down and clear his head then try to make a comeback .
Same goes with Costa , because I think Remy might better option . Bench those players to let them sort themselves out . They become too complacent and relaxed because there is no competition for their positions .
@heisenburg
Why don't you do your research why Mourinho did not manage club on third year ? You all seem to forget that this guy did not stick around for too long was either because of his ambitions or when someone try to fck with his authority .
Do you think Sir Alex ever allowed any one to fck with his authority ? Never . Sir Alex was the boss of everything . Period.
He had two third seasons and I must say that many top managers would wish those kind of seasons . He only had one season when he went without a throphy in his career !!
You guys need to get opinion of your own not what media is pushing for you to say or think .
Right and wrong, Mou is an ambitious man and when his job is done he leaves, it's that simple. But he's also a man of controversy and short-rapid term success (at least that's the impression we have), that's also why he leaves after 3 years and the team seem to collapse after that and need couple of years to bounce back.
Im sure if he was given time, and enough ambitious projects, he would have no problem building a solid empire and sucessful. He does need to change his mentality to that though.
It's too early to draw conclusion. Let's wait a bit more
Right and wrong, Mou is an ambitious man and when his job is done he leaves, it's that simple. But he's also a man of controversy and short-rapid term success (at least that's the impression we have), that's also why he leaves after 3 years and the team seem to collapse after that and need couple of years to bounce back.
Im sure if he is given time, and enough ambitious projects, he would have no problem building a solid empire and sucessful. He does need to change his mentality to that though
@tuanis
Sure he draws a lot of controversy , but I think media also likes to spin controversy around him because his stories sellwell on the shelfs .
Also When he left Chelsea we were completely fine until Villa Boas came and started this whole revolution ! Throwing out our veterans like worn out shoes ! Radically changing our style without having proper players for it . Ancelotti started but he was very careful not to misbalance harmony that was created by Jose .
Same goes with Inter . It was still fine until Benitez came and started changing things too quick and results were evident . Same it was in Real , Ancelotti did not change much only implemented players that Jose had in warehouse to replace the ones that were sold and bought expensive addition to a club to increase sheer power in attack but core structure of defense and midfield and philosophy of counter attacking football was all Joses !
Perez finally admitted it ! But Madrid fans are too stubborn to admit it .
I totally agree just watch if he is given time he will turn things around . I have no doubt about Jose ! It is a guaranteed winner and if we fire him I will never respect Abramovich again because fck this he will be a c8nt just like Perez.
If it was not Abramovich back then who bought us , trust me that time around there were other suiters to buy Chelsea and invest , so lets not making him A Savior figure like as if Chelsea was very bad .
the first time mourinho was fired was the only time i cried for football.
mourinho is chelsea and chelsea is mourinho, there is no better coach for us than him and i have no doubt that he will turn things around! he just has a good relationship with the squad and thats why he doesn't change much, he wants to give them the feeling that he trusts them and that he is not going to throw them out because they play 1or 2 bad games.
Not to interrupt your discussion guys, but did you notice how a Liverpool fan's talking Sh!t?
@chelsea8
You are right team should get support . Would you not concede that Ivanovic had enough support in all of his crappy 5 leagues , 1 community shield and all the pre season games and last games of last season ... that is inexcusable .
@marcus yes the worst player at the moment is ivanovic but other players aren't much better, i think that mourinho will make some changes for tommorow and bench iva,fabre and costa.
@Marcus: lolz, at first I thought you didn't direct your answer at me but... now hehehehe.
You realize that ME (tuan_jinn) and TUANIS are 2 different persons right????
hahahahahaha lol sorry mate i got carried away . I am actually upset that two English teams lost today . Believe it or not i root for your teams when they are in Europe.
@Tuan At first I was like why is he replying to Tuanis =)) I almost wanted to edit his comment since I knew he was replying to you lol
@Marcus Since you brought it, what the hell's happening to the EPL? God knows I'm not trying to create another "EPL versus" but the truth of the matter is that they haven't been doing well since 2012.
@Marcus Same here mate. No matter how much I could possibly hate any rival team in the EPL like City for example I would still support any of them in the Champions league, unless of course they are playing against us.. You can tell that from my top comment on my profile.. I always count on United to do well in the CL alongside Chelsea.. but I don't know what is going on to the EPL teams in the last 3 years in the CL. Poor Luck? Exhausted squad? Bad timing? UEFA? There are many excuses but it shouldn't be this way.
@macus,
I never stated any reasons for Mourinho's departures from clubs he's been on because I never intended to. Those reasons you just stated in fact reinforces my point that since Mourinho's departures have been of such reasons (ambition or simply distrusts between the club board members and himself), then perhaps this is the time for Abramovich to decide whether he wants to sack and continue Mourinho's 2-3 year managerial period pattern OR take the chance by keeping him to see whether or not he really can prove to be successful after this current draught.
I am starting to think it is maybe because we have too many mercenaries who are not as eager to win than English players or players who were nurtured by English football .
Like City has not excuses whatsoever ! With so much been spend ! And squad like that they should be bossing in Europe.
United was just shipwreck that Sir Alex did not fix before leaving . He left it when it was clearly drowning . They will still qualify i am sure but to loose PSV was not a good way to start to multibilion dollar worth club .
Then we have Us , who should not have been so naive against PSG and finish the job when we had them , no matter what happened during the game but bloody football can be cruel .
Arsenal , idk about Arsenal . They claim they have 200 million in the bank to spend but they still have not fixed their problems like buying a descent striker or one more CDM . I don't expect Arsenal to pull miracles in CL this year .
Happy days! I'm buzzing to see how Fabregas + Loftus-Cheek will work out, would've preferred Matic next to Loftus-Cheek, though. Anyways, let's do this!
Does anyone know what is happening to Chelsea, how could a team be **** all of a sudden. I hope Jose Mourinho gets sacked so Liverpool could have him :) thats just a hope.