pepe in the top 3, no. top 10, maybe.
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pepe in the top 3, no. top 10, maybe.
@chelsea8 Well, not last season, from what I remember. Ronaldo was second best goalscorer in la liga behind Suarez with 35 goal and was also top scorer in CL with 11 goal for a total of 46 wich is one more than Suarez. I have no idea about assist and I personally agree Ronaldo has less influence on the game as Messi. Also, Its pretty easy to say that Fifa is corrupt if they give Ronaldo the ballon d'or but Messi hater can say the inverse and it wouldn't seem any weirder.
@emo the ballon d'or is not recieved after a season but after a year, and the only thing the ronaldo fans can use as an excuse is that ronaldo won the euro and the champions league which is won by a team and ballon d'or is an individual prize.
@Pheno Agree, Pepe should be in the top 3 for sure along with Ronaldo and Suarez.
Fifa is corrupt if they give the balon d'or to ronaldo, messi has more goals, more assist, most dribbles, and actually RUNS in a game.
Stop crying, it's the other way around. Your statements are making people depressed. Do you like making people depressed? No? Good. Ronaldo will win it, end of story, bye bye, have a good day. :-)
FIFA is corrupt whoever they give the ballon d'Or..
@ lilywhite spoken like a true ronaldo fan boy, you are just on this forum when it's about ronaldo lol
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@ lilywhite spoken like a true ronaldo fan boy, you are just on this forum when it's about ronaldo lol get a life.
@ lilywhite spoken like a true ronaldo fan boy, you are just on this forum when it's about ronaldo lol get a life.
You have no arguments to defend your boyfriend :(
@ lilywhite spoken like a true ronaldo fan boy, you are just on this forum when it's about ronaldo lol
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@ lilywhite spoken like a true ronaldo fan boy, you are just on this forum when it's about ronaldo lol
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Lmao is that what you call people who like someone you hate? A 'fan boy'? I dig Ronaldo, just like hundreds of millions of other people, cuz he's a real dude and a fantastic footballer, yeah. Does that mean I can't understand who truly deserves and will win the award this year? Stop hating dude, it puts you in a horrible light.
@chelsea8 dude lilwhite is right. ronaldo is a top class footballer and person. I'm sure you "fanboy" about hazard all the time......
Also no, there is absolutely no way in hell messi wouldn't be in the top 3. Forr however great pepe was, you simply can't oust messi or ronaldo from the top 3. their stats are simply too amazing. we will never see anything like it anytime soon
@quik
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@chelsea
If you think there aren't any arguments for Ronaldo winning the Ballon d'Or this year I would argue that you haven't been paying attention.
Lilywhite@ everybody knows that you show up whenever it's about ronaldo, i'm not a fan of ronaldo nor messi but one thing i know is that the ballon d'or is an individual prize in which messi tops ronaldo in every aspect.
@ gonzi i don't deny that ronaldo is world class but saying that he is the best player bcuz the " whole team" of Portugal won the euro's and " the whole team " of real madrid won the champions league is absurd is it not?
@chelsea8 yea i agree with you
@chelsea8
i don't deny that ronaldo is world class but saying that he is the best player bcuz the " whole team" of Portugal won the euro's and " the whole team " of real madrid won the champions league is absurd is it not?
Easily Madrid's best player, although Pepe and a few other Portuguese players probably had a better Euro. Although I'm not sure you want to get into saying "Ronaldo shouldn't win because he doesn't have the individual stats." Usually the best argument against Ronaldo has been the other way around.
Tied for 2nd most goals in Euros
Most goals in CL (he scored almost double compared to 2nd place)
2nd most goals in league
but one thing i know is that the ballon d'or is an individual prize in which messi tops ronaldo in every aspect.
Some years that is true. Not 2016, by a long shot.
I'm going to be honest, I do prefer Ronaldo to Messi, but I'm also not an idiot. Messi has had far better years than Ronaldo - but this is obviously not one of those years by any metric you decide to use, goals, assists, titles, anything. You could make a far better argument for Suarez winning in 2016 than you could Messi, and the fact that no one has really attempted to do this shows the influence that Messi has in the minds of many fans.
Club&country calendar year 2016
Messi: assists 29, goals 49
Ronaldo: assist 15, goals 43
And i didn't even search for the most succesful dribbles, most chances waisted and passing accuracy :) which most likely will be in messi's favor.
**And also ballon d'or is not about someone's performance in a season but in a full year.**
Club&country calendar year 2016
Messi: assists 29, goals 49
Ronaldo: assist 15, goals 43
And i didn't even search for the most succesful dribbles, most chances waisted and passing accuracy :) which most likely will be in messi's favor.
@chelsea8
And also ballon d'or is not about someone's performance in a season but in a full year.
Never seemed like it before to be fair. :P Also, I can confirm Lily show up for more than just Ronaldo, if it seem that way, its because Lily doesn't have at lot of time to answer on the site wich is because she does have a life. :P However, I agree she does seem a bit Ronaldo bias wich is fine, everyone have their preference. Sadly, not everybody share our taste buddy, have to accept it. ;) Last year it was Messi, this year will propably be Ronaldo and next year propably won't be him. ;P
@Lily Have to be sincere with you, I agree Ronaldo is more likely to win, but you should realize commentary like the one @chelsea8 said doesn't depressed as many people as you think, its a sad fact, but despite all of his talent and all of his quality, Ronaldo still attract a lot of hate and there is nearly as many people who love him as people that hate. For some reason, lots people seem to think they should support Messi and hate Ronaldo or the inverse and since Messi seem so humble, he is most likely supported by more people than Ronaldo. Thats too bad, people should realize we can support both player and enjoy both their playing style. :(
@chelsea8
And also ballon d'or is not about someone's performance in a season but in a full year.
Never seemed like it before to be fair. :P Also, I can confirm Lily show up for more than just Ronaldo, if it seem that way, its because Lily doesn't have at lot of time to answer on the site wich is because she does have a life. :P However, I agree she does seem a bit Ronaldo bias wich is fine to be fair, everyone have their preference. Sadly, not everybody share my and your taste. ;)
@chelsea8
And also ballon d'or is not about someone's performance in a season but in a full year.
Never seemed like it before to be fair. :P Also, I can confirm Lily show up for more than just Ronaldo, if it seem that way, its because Lily doesn't have at lot of time to answer on the site wich is because she does have a life. :P However, I agree she does seem a bit Ronaldo bias wich is fine, everyone have their preference. Sadly, not everybody share our taste buddy, have to accept it. ;) Last year it was Messi, this year will propably be Ronaldo next year propably won't be him. ;P
@chelsea8
And also ballon d'or is not about someone's performance in a season but in a full year.
Never seemed like it before to be fair. :P Also, I can confirm Lily show up for more than just Ronaldo, if it seem that way, its because Lily doesn't have at lot of time to answer on the site wich is because she does have a life. :P However, I agree she does seem a bit Ronaldo bias wich is fine, everyone have their preference. Sadly, not everybody share our taste buddy, have to accept it. ;) Last year it was Messi, this year will propably be Ronaldo and next year propably won't be him. ;P
@chelsea8
And also ballon d'or is not about someone's performance in a season but in a full year.
Never seemed like it before to be fair. :P Also, I can confirm Lily show up for more than just Ronaldo, if it seem that way, its because Lily doesn't have at lot of time to answer on the site wich is because she does have a life. :P However, I agree she does seem a bit Ronaldo bias wich is fine, everyone have their preference. Sadly, not everybody share our taste buddy, have to accept it. ;) Last year it was Messi, this year will propably be Ronaldo and next year propably won't be him. ;P
@Lily Have to be sincere with you, I agree Ronaldo is more likely to win, but you should realize commentary like the one @chelsea8 said doesn't depressed as many people as you think, its a sad fact, but despite all of his talent and all of his quality, Ronaldo still attract a lot of hate and there is nearly as many people who love him as people that hate. For some reason, lots people seem to think they should support Messi and hate Ronaldo or the inverse and since Messi seem so humble, he is most likely supported by more people than Ronaldo. Thats too bad, people should realize we can support both player and enjoy both their playing style.
@emobot i don't mind you defending every member i argue with but you gotta stop that bcuz i'm sure they can explain themselves just fine and it also isn't about my " taste" because i would actually hate it for messi to win bcuz that way he would be the best player for a long long time with his 6 ballon d'ors but he deserves it and the facts back that up.
@chelsea8 I'm sorry if it bother you but I just wanted to explain, I didn't considered that as defending anybody. And the fact you speak of are sadly not taking into account the way you seem to think they are. Ballon d'or, despite being given at the end of a year seem to take into account season stat and title over yearly stat only. Beside, if what you said was true and that they only too into account the stat of this year, then your statement make little sense as this year is not over and there is still quite a few game to play in wich Ronaldo could beat Messi record for goal. In my opinion, its too soon to say something like "Messi should win if you take his 2016 stat into account".
Also, the only 100% true statement on this thread:
FIFA is corrupt whoever they give the ballon d'Or..
@chelsea8 I'm sorry if it bother you but I just wanted to explain, I didn't considered that as defending anybody. And the fact you speak of are sadly not taking into account the way you seem to think they are. Ballon d'or, despite being given at the end of a year seem to take into account season stat and title over yearly stat only. Beside, if what you said was true and that they only too into account the stat of this year, then your statement make little sense as this year is not over and there is still quite a few game to play in wich Ronaldo could beat Messi record for goal. In my opinion, its too soon to say something like "Messi should win if you take his 2016 stat into account".
@chelsea8 I'm sorry if it bother you but I just wanted to explain, I didn't considered that as defending anybody. And the fact you speak of are sadly not taking into account the way you seem to think they are. Ballon d'or, despite being given at the end of a year seem to take into account season stat and title over yearly stat only. Beside, if what you said was true and that they only too into account the stat of this year, then your statement make little sense as this year is not over and there is still quite a few game to play in wich Ronaldo could beat Messi record for goal. In my opinion, its too soon to say something like "Messi should win if you take his 2016 stat into account".
Also, the only 100% true statement:
FIFA is corrupt whoever they give the ballon d'Or..
@Chesea8
I recall you once stating that the only player better than Hazard was Messi. When people make statements like that, I genuinely don't take their opinions for being worth more than a grain of salt.
@Chesea8
I recall you once stating that the only player better than Hazard was Messi. When people make statements like that, I genuinely don't take their opinions for being worth more than a grain of salt.
@Chesea8
I recall you once stating that the only player better than Hazard was Messi. When people make statements like that, I genuinely don't take their opinions for being worth more than a grain of salt.
It is known that Lilywhite likes Ronaldo and you hate Ronaldo.
@dynastian i said that the only player that was better at dribbling than hazard was messi and in the season where chelsea won the league hazard was top class :), and i said that like 2years ago that's just sad how you remember something from so long ago, also how many accounts did you make to like your own comment.
By the way i don't give a damn about your opinion either, seems like i triggered many ronaldo fan boys with facts.
Next year for Ballon D'Or, people will vote for the one who is most kindest...
Give me a break, in 2013 when Ronaldo won it, he had the best stats overall than any other player, yet people say he didnt deserve it cause he hasnt won anything for the team and Ribery deserved it for winning the treble. Now Ronaldo has won the Euro and Champions League and is top scorer of Uefa, tied second top scorer in EURO and second top scorer in the league, what more do u ask for?
Chances created, pass accuracy, possession, dribbles shouldn't even be considered unless they both have won the same trophies, equal amount of goals and assist. Yes, its true, we have a world class squad, but so does Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea, Juventus, PSG etc.. Ronaldo now hasnt been scoring like crazy, but all his goals now have been decisive.
Moreover, our squad has been injury prone with Modric, Bale, Ramos and Casemiro being injured constantly. Benzema has been off form since who knows when and Ronaldo has just recovered from a serious injury. Portugal won the euro by team performance, yes, but Ronaldo was Portugal's second best player after Pepe. He saved them vs Hungary and Wales. He was also involved in the goal against Croatia. Just admit it, if Ronaldo was playing in Newcastle and was still top scorer, all of you will praise how great newcastle are as a team. Just praise the man, what harm has he done to you?
Ronaldo isnt like Messi, he has very little possesion in every game and yet creates a fair amount of chances and assists. He isn't the dribbler like he used to, but why downgrade him for such pathetic things, do you see me downgrade Messi for not scoring headers?
Ronaldo can win it fairly unless he scores more than 50 goals this year, and can keep his team on top of the table till the end of the year.
Messi can win it if he starts scoring goals and out scores Ronaldo by a mile.
@Chelsea8 Not wanting to defend Dynast but he is a Real Madrid fan. So, there is a chance he like Ronaldo better than other candidate.
Anyway, I wish all of you guys to have fun on the continuing debate that will follow but I seriously won't bother answering back unless someone call for me specially, this is getting way too much into the topic of "Messi should win it over Ronaldo or Ronaldo should win it over Messi" and we all know how those end. Gonna pass on this. ;P
@rayrex7 Just saw your comment, seem fair enough bro. ;)
@Chelsea8 Not wanting to defend Dynast but he is a Real Madrid fan. So, there is a chance he like Ronaldo better than other candidate.
Anyway, I wish all of you guys to have fun on the continuing debate that will follow but I seriously won't bother answering back unless someone call for me specially, this is getting way too much into the topic of "Messi should win it over Ronaldo or Ronaldo should win it over Messi" and we all know how those end. Gonna pass on this. ;P
No Sanchez ? Winner of Copa America ? Over Buffon or Lloris this season.
what do you think about the list ?