@marcus and what the fans want!
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@marcus and what the fans want!
Buy Sandro
Keep Alonso
Sell Matic
New CB
Marcus2011
If you were to ask me two flaws in Chelsea, I would say Matic and Cahill tbh.
There comes a time where you have to sacrifice players to get to the top, if we want to compete in europe then we have to strengthen our weak positions.
This is the truth, and not ridiculous. Sure you won 30 games, but have you competed in Champions League? Have you won the FA cup? Have you even won league cup? If those don't happen, growth must too also happen.
I would agree with chelsea8 if I were a Chelsea fan.
Bertrand Traore has just left Chelsea for Lyon.
Bournemouth are interested in signing Connor Mahoney from Blackburn.
Sandro is a deal that's nearly complete.
Tottenham will not sell Kane
Sigurdsonn will stay.
More later. Lost everything.
Buy Sandro
Keep Alonso
Sell Matic
New CB
Marcus2011
If you were to ask me two flaws in Chelsea, I would say Matic and Cahill tbh.
There comes a time where you have to sacrifice players to get to the top, if we want to compete in europe then we have to strengthen our weak positions.
This is the truth, and not ridiculous. Sure you won 30 games, but have you competed in Champions League? Have you won the FA cup? Have you even won league cup? If those don't happen, growth must too also happen.
I would agree with chelsea8 if I were a Chelsea fan.
Buy Sandro
Keep Alonso
Sell Matic
New CB
Marcus2011
If you were to ask me two flaws in Chelsea, I would say Matic and Cahill tbh.
There comes a time where you have to sacrifice players to get to the top, if we want to compete in europe then we have to strengthen our weak positions.
This is the truth, and not ridiculous. Sure you won 30 games, but have you competed in Champions League? Have you won the FA cup? Have you even won league cup? If those don't happen, growth must too also happen.
I would agree with chelsea8 if I were a Chelsea fan.
Bertrand Traore has just left Chelsea for Lyon.
Bournemouth are interested in signing Connor Mahoney from Blackburn.
Sandro is a deal that's nearly complete.
Tottenham will not sell Kane
Sigurdsonn will stay.
Fabinho vs Matic stats:
Fabinho Matic
Forward passes:
38.71^ 38.05
Pass completion:
84% 88%^
Chances created:
0.96^ 0.90
Tackles won:
2.25^ 1.24
Successful take-ons:
64.29% 65.96%^
Aerial duels won:
52.5% 60.32%^
Total duels %:
46.56% 49.06%^
Interceptions:
1.58 1.84^
Totals:
Assists:
1 : 7^
Goals (open play):
2^ 1
Goals (penalties):
7^ 0
Yellow cards:
8^ 4
Mourinho knows why Matic is needed for Manchester, if he was the worst player of Chelsea their rivals wouldn't want him simple as that :)
Fabinho vs Matic stats:
Fabinho Matic
Forward passes:
38.71 38.05
Pass completion:
84% 88%
Chances created:
0.96 0.90
Tackles won:
2.25 1.24
Successful take-ons:
64.29% 65.96%
Aerial duels won:
52.5% 60.32%
Total duels %:
46.56% 49.06%
Interceptions:
1.58 1.84
Totals:
Assists:
1 : 7
Goals (open play):
2 1
Goals (penalties):
7 0
Yellow cards:
8 4
Mourinho knows why Matic is needed for Manchester, if he was the worst player of Chelsea their rivals wouldn't want him simple as that :)
U never know... if Matic goes to United he could put Pogba out of the team! :D
@once a blue - thats never gonna happen no one thats bought 4 that much will ever get put out of the team...besides matic wont in his whole career ever be as good as pogba already is
@nigelpayne
If that's the way United work I feel sorry for them. So all you have to do is get yourself a ridiculous price tag and then you will secure a spot in the first team! True, if Pogba shows what he really can do there isn't much chance but if he's out of form like he was lots of last season, you never know, on top form Matic can be world class. Just think back to the 2014/15 season.
Matic has been average for quite some time now, but I'd be surprised if Pogba could reach the heights of the 2014-15 version of Matic @nigel .. ;-)
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@onceabluealwaysablue pogba wasnt 'out of form' last season - just compare his stats to anyone else in his position
@juanmata10 be prepared to be surprised because pogba has a lot of years in him and is already in his first season performing better than a matic who is at an age where most pro footballers reach their prime
But Pogba isn't defensive midfielder as others..
@JuanMata10
You say that Darmian and DeSciglio are average players, and that is completely correct but they understand the 3-4-3 system and Conte would bring the best out of them. I always supported the signing of Alonso and was in favour of starting him when we signed him, but even I was surprised by how well he did. Having seen Darmian at the 2014 WC under Prandelii and then at Inter, along with De Sciglio under Conte at the Euros, I have no doubts that they will succeed if they come to Chelsea.
If Alex Sandro really is the 2nd best LB/LWB in the world, then I don't see why we shouldn't sign him, improvement is always the priority. For sure I'd prefer a RWB back you're completely correct in the fact that there is no world class option available for us. It's just a real shame for Alonso, something he doesn't deserve.
Many of you have talked about Cahill and a new CB. If Conte does play Azpilicueta at RWB, I hope Zouma or Christensen can slide in to CB, but I wouldn't be surprised if we splashed the cash for Bonucci. Personally, I don't rate Van Dijk highly, I just think he benefits from Southampton's defence, just like Lovren.
I thought I'd add this in...Who is the better wing back?
@JuanMata10
You say that Darmian and DeSciglio are average players, and that is completely correct but they understand the 3-4-3 system and Conte would bring the best out of them. I always supported the signing of Alonso and was in favour of starting him when we signed him, but even I was surprised by how well he did. Having seen Darmian at the 2014 WC under Prandelii and then at Inter, along with De Sciglio under Conte at the Euros, I have no doubts that they will succeed if they come to Chelsea.
If Alex Sandro really is the 2nd best LB/LWB in the world, then I don't see why we shouldn't sign him, improvement is always the priority. For sure I'd prefer a RWB back you're completely correct in the fact that there is no world class option available for us. It's just a real shame for Alonso, something he doesn't deserve.
@quikzyyy i was waiting for someone to say that...lamest excuse eveeer!
although labelled as a central midfielder mou has played him alongside herrera as a central defensive midfielder...he is often found drifting in and out of the the two centre backs - just like a CDM does
Man, look at the stats what are you comparing.
Goals, same as Yaya who has played less than 700 minutes.
Shots per game, why is this stat even important? Pogba needed around 89 shots for 5 goals, while Yaya didn't even need 1/3 of that with around 31 shots.
Aerial duels won, not dying anything, he is dominating in this.
Man, look at the stats what are you comparing.
Goals, same as Yaya who has played less than 700 minutes.
Shots per game, why is this stat even important? Pogba needed around 89 shots for 5 goals, while Yaya didn't even need 1/3 of that with around 31 shots.
Aerial duels won, not dying anything, he is dominating in this.
Basically the stats you have provided don't tell absolutely anything, you say he is playing as a central defensive midfielder, okay, let's compare defensive stats then.
@quikzyy not sure how this turned from comparing pogba and matic to comparing pogba and kante...i only included him to give more evidence...you mentioned nothing abt matic in your last comment????
but seeing as you want to talk abt kante lets talk abt him
as a defensive player its not a bad thing not to tackle as your main job is to break down the attack...putting pressure on the opposition and causing them to pass back is just as effective but does not carry a stat unfortunately however when pogba does tackle he makes it count more so than kante...75% to 69%
interceptions - ok u have to give it 2 kante
the main reason for pogbas lack of clearances is because he is better on the ball than kante and can therefor play it out from the back with skill as opposed to booting the ball upfield like a scared amatuer
a recovery only happens when you lose the ball...pogba doesnt lose the ball so easily!
kante may have won more duels but hes lost more too - kante won 54.4% of duels he went into while pogba won 54.8% of duels he went into...!
theres hardly a difference when it comes to succesful 50\50's and pogba as u said bosses the aerial department
so clearly we can see pogba is still better!
p.s. stats dont mean anything unless you put them into context
@quikzyy not sure how this turned from coparing pogba and matic to comparing pogba and kante...i only included him to give more evidence...you mentioned nothing abt matic in your last comment????
but seeing as you want to talk abt kante lets talk abt him
as a defensive player its not a bad thing not to tackle as your main job is to break down the attack...putting pressure on the opposition and causing them to pass back is just as effective but does not carry a stat unfortunately however when pogba does tackle he makes it count more so than kante...75% to 69%
interceptions - ok u have to give it 2 kante
the main reason for pogbas lack of clearances is because he is better on the ball than kate and can therefor play it out from the back with skill as opposed to booting the ball upfield like a scared amatuer
a recovery only happens when you lose the ball...pogba doesnt lose the ball so easily!
kante may have won more duels but hes lost more too - kante won 54.4% of duels he went into while pogba won 54.8% of duels he went into...!
theres hardly a difference when it comes to succesful 50\50's and pogba as u said bosses the aerial department
so clearly we can see pogba is still better!
p.s. stats dont mean anything unless you put them into context
@nigelpayne Indeed stats dont matter results do!
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@jozemourinho sorry man im missing the link...???
we were discussing the differences between pogba and kante on their individual performances....this has nothing whatsoever to do with which team out of man u and chelsea is better!
obviously everyone knows that chelsea performed better last season - they won the title...however we werent discussing that so....
@quikzyy sorry man im missing the link...???
we were discussing the differences between pogba and kante on their individual performances....this has nothing whatsoever to do with which team out of man u and chelsea is better!
obviously everyone knows that chelsea performed better last season - they won the title...however we werent discussing that so....
@joze sorry man im missing the link...???
we were discussing the differences between pogba and kante on their individual performances....this has nothing whatsoever to do with which team out of man u and chelsea is better!
obviously everyone knows that chelsea performed better last season - they won the title...however we werent discussing that so....
however when pogba does tackle he makes it count more so than kante...75% to 69%
56 tackles compared to more than 300, yet he's just 6% behind, but Pogba makes it count more, so you basically can bring player who has played one match got 100% tackle success and he is better than Pogba and Kante according to this logic.
kante may have won more duels but hes lost more too - kante won 54.4% of duels he went into while pogba won 54.8% of duels he went into...!
again, Pogba is better because he has better winning ratio, by 0,4% while being included in 355 less tackles.
theres hardly a difference when it comes to succesful 50\50'
but before Pogba was better because he had 0,4% more, suddenly there's "hardly a difference"
so clearly we can see pogba is still better!
yes, basically you post a stats which mean nothing and shows Pogba is better, then he gets compared with defensive stats (you said he is a defensive midfielder) and suddenly the stats doesn't matter.
however when pogba does tackle he makes it count more so than kante...75% to 69%
56 tackles compared to more than 300, yet he's just 6% behind, but Pogba makes it count more, so you basically can bring player who has played one match got 100% tackle success and he is better than Pogba and Kante according to this logic.
kante may have won more duels but hes lost more too - kante won 54.4% of duels he went into while pogba won 54.8% of duels he went into...!
again, Pogba is better because he has better winning ratio, by 0,4% while being included in 355 less tackles.
theres hardly a difference when it comes to succesful 50\50'
but before Pogba was better because he had 0,4% more, suddenly there's "hardly a difference"
so clearly we can see pogba is still better!
yes, basically you post a stats which mean nothing and shows Pogba is better, then he gets compared with defensive stats (you said he is a defensive midfielder) and suddenly the stats doesn't matter.
And if you wanna compare him with Matic, here you go, but Pogba is better defensive midfielder.
Chelsea considering Kostas Manolas as move to St Petersberg stalls.
Chelsea considering Kostas Manolas as move to St Petersberg stalls
@legends16 True, I heard that as well, how would you feel about such a move?
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