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what is Ronaldo like ?
marcusrashford 8 years ago
Manchester United, England 7 61

he can be a good player people like messi better i don't

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rayrex7 8 years ago
Real Madrid, Croatia 26 797

@tiki If you would like to compare, compare fairly. We all know its football, but once again, its a sport so physical attributes should be noted. Ronaldo in tops messi in offense attributes, such as aerial attacks, long shots, finishing, attacking positioning etc.

Ronaldo's passing is very underrated actually. from an average of 29 passes per game, he creates 1.4 chances. and has 11 assists. Until now i don't know why people think Ronaldo can't pass.

Ronaldo's pass vs hungary was exquisite, and sublime. He has made many of those passes and I still can't believe he doesn't get that amount of deserved praise.

Plus as @Sun said, Barcelona style of play makes any pass to a chance, especially for the forwards. Ronaldo not dropping deep, doesnt mean he cant play deep. Ronaldo in united and first seasons with madrid averaged similar amount of dribbles like Messi. Ronaldo can play anywhere he is placed. But people would never compliment him just to show weakness. Messi may have better passing and vision, but Ronaldo isn't that far behind, I've seen them play and I can say Ronaldo's vision and passing are really underrated.

In all the attributes you mentioned, Ronaldo has a high seat. I understand your opinion, but you are degrading Ronaldo to the point where its unacceptable. Ronaldo is the only player alongside Messi where their gameplay evolves year by year. It's foolish comparing players with the same style of Play their entire career with these two elites

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chelsea8 8 years ago
Chelsea, Iran 17 2219

The ballon d'or has always been fairly chosen but i gotta say that messi and ronaldo's era has been easy bcuz they didn't have any competition like in zidane, figo and co era which was stacked with legendary players.

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SunFlash 8 years ago
USA 19 3260

I may be in the minority on this, but aside from one or two years from Ronaldinho and about a five-year period from Brazilian Ronaldo, no one has been even near the current level of Ronaldo/Messi over the last two decades.

That includes players such as Zidane, Figo, etc

Of course, I would attribute that to the changes in the game that have made scoring goals easier, as we can see that teams score roughly twice as much as they used to 20 years ago, but nevertheless, most of the "legends" we look back on only had a 1-3 year period where they were elite. Even today, look at the world's best players about 5 years ago, according to the ballon d'or.

Ronaldo, Messi, Xavi, Fernando Torres, Ribery, Inesita.

Ribery's good, but he's in no one's best 11, not even Bayern's these days. Torres has had a "bit" of a downward trend in his career, Xavi is off in the desert somewhere, and Inesita is still great, but he's nowhere near the level he was even in 2013.

What makes Ronaldo and Messi so different isn't just that they're on another level, it's how long they've been on that level. No one else has won a ballon d'or since 2007, and we can safely assume that that won't change for 2016 for sure, and probably 2017 as well. That makes their dominance essentially a decade. They've been on the top of the world for TEN YEARS.

That's unthinkable, and no other player in the history of the game can even come close to saying that, aside from some goalkeepers.

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tiki_taka 8 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

Ribery could have won it on 2013, Iniesta in 2010. Aside from that, the consistence of the 2 is legendary.

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Dynastian98 8 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

Ribery should have won it in 2013, Iniesta in 2010.

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tiki_taka 8 years ago Edited
Barcelona, France 367 9768

The treble team, with a clearly one man consistently delivering, working on his wing, assisting, scoring, creating chance after chance. 6 trophies out of 6 for Ribery and carried l' equipe de France in poor shape to qualify to WC. No article could change my view on this. Stats doesn't matter in Football like in Basketball, it's a 11 player game in a huge pitch, look at Modric/Busquets stats comparing to their importance for their club.
Messi and Ronaldo are consistent each year but in 2013 Ribery won everything scored plenty of goals, impacted his wing and got called the Kaiser, that was the seven up season only time Barca got owned like that in a decade, Rinery won best player in Europe voted by experts, he got the best season. Now if we ignore achievements and focus to only potential I would give it to the same player each year you know who.
2013 was the year Mourinho quit Madrid and Barca won the league. I'm going to read your article to understand how in your opinion you think it was deserved, in my perspective I can't see how.

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The treble team, with a clearly one man consistently delivering, working on his wing, assisting, scoring, creating chance after chance. 6 trophies out of 6 for Ribery and carried l' equipe de France in poor shape to qualify to WC. No article could change my view on this. Stats doesn't matter in Football like in Basketball, it's a 11 player game in a huge pitch, look at Modric/Busquets stats comparing to their importance for their club.
Messi and Ronaldo are consistent each year but in 2013 Ribery won everything scored plenty of goals, impacted his wing and got called the Kaiser, that was the seven up season only time Barca got owned like that in a decade, Rinery won best player in Europe voted by experts, he got the best season. Now if we ignore achievements and focus to only potential I would give it to the same player each year you know who.

tiki_taka 8 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

Stats ok, sorry sun we could never agree if we don't have same criterias, for me 5 goals in a game won at 15th minute doesn't equal a winner goal in a crucial game. A tap in or a penalty doesn't equal a screamer or a long range dribbling goal, for me a long pass opening the field is as important as the assist that follows the pass. From that perspective I never look for US analysts one dimensional for me, best analysts i follow are ex legends of a game not a fat journalist with loads of theories and stats. Sometimes in a goal action, the one who do the run without the ball to open space is more important than the guy who receive the tap in.
Messi had won it 4 times in a row, they were obliged to give it to Ronaldo to end up the bias conspiracy who started with blatter comparisons in Oxford, Ronaldo was better than Messi that year not a single doubt about it but Ribery got Robbed just like Etoo in 2009 or Iniesta in 2010. The pitchichi was Etoo won treble and scored in the final, less scandalous cause Messi also won treble and scored in the final against SAF United.

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SunFlash 8 years ago
USA 19 3260

Shrug. I can't offer as much opinion on Ribery because I didn't follow the Bundesliga as closely then as I do now. Nevertheless, Ronaldo scored 66 goals that year, three times more than Ribery, and had 3 fewer assists despite them playing in the same area of the field.

I have no doubt Ribery's contribution in the build-up was of more influence than Ronaldo's, as seen by his 50 more chances created, but still...that and he had a 10% lower dribble success rate...I can see the argument, but I would have a very hard time justifying it.

Make Ronaldo in this instance any player who had never won the ballon d'or before, and it's not even a question.

I understand that we have different criteria, and that's fine. I too value the insight of former players, and particularly enjoyed Gary Neville's view of the game when he was on TV, although I must say my confidence in it has somewhat dipped following the Valencia episode. However, I personally find ex-players usually to be stuck in their time, or bias by default due to their accomplishments and/or system. People like Maradona, Carragher, and Pele often offer views of the game that were true when they played, but certainly are not anymore. Statistics aren't opinion by themselves, they're used to create an informed opinion, which I feel is more valid than an opinion unsubstantiated by facts.

I find football fans, managers, and players, (not even mentioning the media) to be incredibly sensationalistic over player opinions and incidents that are too often factually incorrect, and often just plain wrong. The second emotion comes into the equation, you may as well throw out the equation. That's why I have no difficultly analyzing other teams to a reasonable conclusion, but have an extreme difficulty doing so for United. So I don't try, instead content to simply enjoy myself.

But yeah, for every other team/player I'm a stick in the mud. :)

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tiki_taka 8 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

As I told you before, stats are a poor way to justify a season, you can score 30 goals in a season, if 20 of these were useless doesn't mean you had a huge season.
And having a name, many fans or biggest sponsors should not influence the season too, even if it does, my unpopular opinion is that take off the 2 finals Griezmann lost and you have the fair BO winner, carried Atletico on his shoulders to compete for the league in Spain wich is realistically more complicated than Leicester winning the league. Scored less but from less chances created for him, imagine him in a club like Madrid who creates 4 times more chances of scoring and he was only a false nine.
The difference in our views is that these players we are talking about, I watched at lest 25 games of each of these players, so if I didn't I would have only stats to compare with knowing it only gives a little idea on the season.
A player like Benzema this start of the season was the most influential at Madrid, despite not being the top scorer, the number of important goals was huge, early oppeners that makes the game easy, equalsers, winners, big games. And he got few braces probably no hat tricks his goals were scored against many rivals.

For me the best way to have a complete view on a season performance is to watch games, I work at Bein sport so it's easier for me.

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SunFlash 8 years ago
USA 19 3260

Fair enough, I'm a full-time student limited by streaming, so watching a lot of games is impossible for me quite often.

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