I'm fine, good luck to him. It's not like Iniesta left or something, he is a promising talent not a world class player...
We will have more money and place to recruit ;)
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I'm fine, good luck to him. It's not like Iniesta left or something, he is a promising talent not a world class player...
We will have more money and place to recruit ;)
Weird move by Thiago... The difference between him and Cesc (in case he pull a Cesc and goes back home) is that one was a world class player and captain before going back to Barcelona to warm the bench, hopefully he gets some playing time at Bayern, somehow. It seems almost as if Barcelona sold him only so they could give Neymar #11, big coincidence.
Im not that sad because of him not moving to Manchester because I think he is the player that Man Utd deserve but not the one we need right now. We already have Kagawa, and we need more a defensive midfielder to replace scholes and fletcher.
Pep Guardiola: "It is either Thiago or nothing. I don't know what's going to happen. We have to wait. But I know him very well. He is a super, super player."
Moyes: "I won't talk about players at other clubs, I don't think it's right".
That is very respectable Moyes, but in today's footballing world, it is gullible as well. Anyways I don't think we needed Thiago. We need a defensive midfielder like Fletcher or Hargreaves and we are golden.
Yeah,I just get so fustrated about all those rumours saying that he's signed to United and so forth,now what!!!Who's United gonna buy then!!???
@tiki_taka you so seriously underate this guy... I bet he will reach close to Iniesta's level in about 6 years time. He plays so much like him.
@rama maybe, i knew his potential since Pep, but he got some playing times last 2 years but he did not as well as expected, when you understand that Tito's work with youth is inexistant compared to Peps work, i prefer selling Thiago at 25M, having Deulofeu on loan to get time to play and give Tello some playing time.
A Barça player always want to shine with Barça, he will want to come back in future no doubt ;)
He had 4 years to adapt, look Pedro Busquets adapted quickly, maybe he's not adapted to replace Xavi. ( Fabregas too).
The good news: Manchester United have lost a huge talent and they wont threaten us more this season.
Bad news: Bayern are most likely going to f*ck us without protection in the Super Cup now.
@Vendetta don't bet on it. We still have a team capable of winning the PL trophy. We don't need a player like Thiago and, in fact, that is why no media outlet ever firmly confirmed that we made a bid for him.
@TheGame
True, but Thiago no doubt could improve United's game. It was just a matter of whether Moyes wanted him or not.
@Ven
Don't underestimate your team so quickly mate. Mou has enough experience with Chelsea and the EPL. He also faced Bayern with Real two years ago. For Pep, this is his first game with another team, a team he doesn't know inside out. I think Chelsea will win this one.
@Dynastian: I hope so! :)
@TheGame: But without SAF, you'll need some time now that Moyes is the manager. Thiago would have made life easier for Moyes though.
@Dynastian98 @Vendetta in what way exactly would he improve United's game? He is a midfielder who likes going forward. We have plenty of that in Anderson, Cleverley and Powell. Even if we were to play him higher up, he would still have to compete against the likes of Rooney and Kagawa. What we need is a player like Fletcher or Hargreaves who can win us that midfield battle that we have been losing, especially against some of the better teams in Europe. Why do you think SAF had to deploy Phil Jones as a midfielder last season against the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea? This problem needs to be addressed and someone like Fellaini would thrive at United and would be a welcome addition. As far as transition period goes @Vendetta, we will see. The club that SAF left for Moyes is much more "new-manager friendly", for lack of a better term, than other clubs around Europe.
@TheGame:
1) Are you seriously comparing Anderson, Cleverley and Powell to Thiago Alacantra? Thiago is one of the most talented young midfielders in Europe and that's why so many clubs were chasing him. Where is the common sense man :/? Powell is 19, Cleverley is not as talented as Thiago, and Anderson is not as good for ManUtd as he was at Porto.
2) Rooney is unhappy at United and everyone knows that. And playing him behind a striker is not the best way of unleashing Rooney's abilities that made him so dangerous upfront. So assuming he leaves, that leaves Kagawa as your only great AM/Playmaker (and to be honest, Thiago is most likely better than him).
3) Of course you need a player like Fletcher or Hargreaves but you also need a world class playmaker and Moyes lost the chance of acquiring one of the highest rated young AM because he wasn't willing to pay the extra 3 million. Now you've missed out on Ozil and Thiago. Imagine how much better ManUtd would have been if Ozil joined? Now you'll see the same result when Thiago shines under Pep.
4) "new-manager friendly" or not, the signing of players like Thiago can really make life easier for Moyes early on. Just think of the pressure he gets now that he is filling in SAF's shoes.
@Vendetta Of course I agree with you, he is more raw and has more natural talent than those players, but that doesn't mean that he is who we need right now.
Do you ever watch Rooney play? He always likes to drop a bit deeper than the main #9. He did this for 4 years when Berbatov was around. That is his best position. And saying Thiago is better than Kagawa at this moment in time is rubbish. Look at Kagawa's performance against Bayern Munich in the 2012 DFP-Pokal. He was also one of the main reasons why Dortmund won the Bundesliga for 2 years in a row. You are just hyping up a player who couldn't really stamp his authority in Barca's first team even tough he made 30-40 appearances in the past two seasons each. Just because Thiago scored a hat-trick against the U21 team of Italy does not automatically make him better than the players who actually have PL experience.
Imagine if we did get Ozil before he joined Madrid. Would United be any better? No. Simply because he would not have been better than Rooney, because he would have occupied the exact same position. We needed RVP, a world class striker, and when we got him we dominated the PL. And Rooney did well playing off of him. The only reason why we didn't do so well in Europe is because of a lack of solidity in the midfield. I am talking about the player who plays alongside Carrick.
We'll see if Thiago actually gets more playing time under Pep, because Munich are stacked with midfielders. And Moyes was never in for Thiago. What part of that do you not understand? The only player we have made a confirmed bid for is Fabregas, incidentally after Rooney's early departure from pre-season because of a "hamstring injury". IF Rooney leaves, then we will need a "world-class" playmaker.
@TheGame: The only problem in that is Rooney was never a proper "world-class" playmaker. His goalscoring record in the 11-12 season proves that he is at best, a striker. Ozil would have definitely changed your game if he was the playmaker and Rooney (or RVP) played upfront. Look at all the assists and goals he has racked up since joining Madrid. As for you needing a player to play next to Carrick, that's true but in my own opinion, I really think you also need a Thiago type player too. You wont be able to rely on Kagawa every game if Rooney leaves.
@Vendetta that is a good point. World-class playmakers typically start out at that position, unlike Rooney who was converted from a striker. Actually in the 11-12 season Rooney was mainly playing off of Chicharito, Welbeck and Berbatov. I recall in the second game we had against Man City, Rooney was playing as a sole striker up front and United didn't even get a shot on target that whole game. Rooney is very ineffective playing as a sole front man.
@TheGame: Just checked your second game vs ManCity in the 11/12 season and I think you're thinking of a different match. Rooney scored two goals in that game and he was the spark of each of the three goals.
@Vendetta second EPL game ;)
Ah, I see, my mistake then. But wasn't that the game where the majority of the ManUtd squad were not performing well?
@Vendetta perhaps that could be true, but I was addressing the overall ineffectiveness of playing Rooney as a sole striker with that example. In the game you posted where United won 3-2, look at the movement of Rooney in the first goal. He started and finished the goal, using Welbeck (the front man) as a point of drawing defenders away and opening up space for him to have a shot at heading the ball. His best position is playing in behind the striker in the playmaker role.
Bayern M. have confirmed that they have secured the services of Thiago Alcantara from Barcelona for an agreed fee of €20 million, potentially rising to €25m.Thiago will compete with the likes of Bastian Schweinsteiger, Luiz Gustavo ,Javi Martinez ,Shaqiri,Muller,Kroos,Ribery,Robben, Mario Gotze and Jan Kirchhoff, as a summer arrival to the Bundesliga champions.
We believed to newspapers , but we should listen to our boss Moyes. He never said that he want him. If we desperately want someone,we can bring him. Our transfer budget is unlimited ;)