Let's all congratulate Moyes on this wonderful feat. Clap clap clap :P

Interesting.

When i see the actual Everton comparing to last year, i have to admit guys that Moyes is no near Top 3 teams coaches. I was against Fellaini joining United and Martinez is just doing better work than Moyes. Sure he made years of construction for the team and....
But his case is just like Martino, they have 0 trophy in Europe and their reputation are not established at all. But thankfully Martino didnt ruin the season ( yet :p ).
United were linked with Laurent Blanc, why on earth prefering Moyes instead. English coaches are overrated, non of them is in top 3. You could have chosen : Blanc, Pellegrini, Aguirre, Rudi Garcia, Philippe Montanier, Girard (Montpelier ex coach, who won ligue 1 with a relegation budget), Bernd Schuster....
Even Diego Simeone would have loved to come, but long LIFE to Moyes since he is making the forum more funny.

Ps : Dont get offended, i respect United, the best English club of this 2 last decades. Arsenal fans could finally get a revenge for 8 years of funny comments about their team. Thats why its childish to get easily offended if you face those comments for once ^^.

@tiki_taka
We're not offended by Arsenal fans whatsoever. Their season will go down the drain soon. We just find it hypocritical they talk about managers to us. We couldn't give a crap about them supposedly taunting us about our current season.

And please. Don't blindly step into the territory of manager choosing at United. It's much more complicated than you think and you're in no position to be like "you could have chosen: x manager". Stick to your Spanish football, and I'll stick to my English football.

@tiki

you know nothing about english football if you think that david moyes is overrated or is not a top manager.

as for the broken record of " look how everton is doing now with martinez", wasnt this exactly the same case with brendan rogers and liverpool last season?
brendan rogers left swansea and managed liverpool, only to have a shitty season and some plastic fans were calling him out, but look how liverpool are doing this season under him.

iam sure this will also be the case with moyes, and also sure that next season he will show his true potentials to the world.

Just give Moyes some time, i trust him. This is his first season so really can't say anything even though the team he has. Don't worry guys, we will come back STRONGER!! next season, this season lets try to focus on at least fourth spot which looks impossible right now but we are 7 points behind fourth. The players are also lacking so thats needs to be worked on.

@tiki_taka, I see you're the kind of person that cares much about instant impact rather than long term, I can easily imagine you crying out "MartinezOUT" if he was in the same position as Moyes in the Spanish league. All the managers you have suggested are exactly what I don't want in our club, because none of them promises long term commitment due to their current reputation, which they would use to preferably manage as many top clubs as they can in their career. If you truly think Everton is doing well with Martinez than Moyes has ever done in his 9 years of service to the club, then you truly know nothing about how the REAL English games work.

To prove my point, we will have to see how both clubs (United and Everton) do in time (let's say around 2 seasons), and surely we will be able to determine which club has hired the better manager, because Moyes is a lot smarter than you think - that's why Ferguson chose him as his successor.

Sadly the club would be very patient with him if he stays above the 7th place... He was signed for a 6 year deal.

Just for the record: Moyes is Scottish. ;)

@Heis, you are right 2 years for me is an eternity, also we agree that your summer transfert will be busy.
I understood that you want to have the same long term management like when SAF was there. I think its dificult to achieve what SAF managed to do in his whole career. It looks like the dutch bad period in Barça when Crujf left and we were obssesed by dutch players and Coaches (Van Gaal...).
But lets be objective, United are one of the richest clubs in England, not like Everton. Moyes cant do worst than Martinez in next years, United is not Everton...
Why im not convinced by D. Moyes, he had the same time as Pellegrini and Mourinho to adapt and build a team.
Next year, both coaches will have enough stability to start the season like Arsenal starterd this year.
Anyway, im not an EPL coaching specialist but when i watch United playing this year, i cant see how tactics would be different next year.
You may have right but you cant predict a coach career in 10 years, SAF didnt know how much he would stay while Moyes has an incredible 6 year contract. Respect for the patience, Moyes case is not like Benitez or Di mateo case.
I cant see anything positive for the moment, maybe im wrong.

The way all the fans are United behind Moyes is beatiful. You all had the same approach so maybe you are seiing things i cant see for United, because im not watching them a lot. Ok since you all say the same thing, lets wait and see.

@bluezzz it is his fault if his putting players that DONT belong in the postion to put them there or to make up a stupid squad.

@AlexBatak are you seriously deluded enough to think Manchester United with the debt they are in would sack a manager on a 6 year contract with a that fat pay check?

@tiki: I do disagree with you on this one:

"Why im not convinced by D. Moyes, he had the same time as Pellegrini and Mourinho to adapt and build a team."

Actually, I think Moyes inherited a bit of a sinking ship from Ferguson, in terms of squad. Chelsea's squad was packed full of young stars even before Benitez left, and then simply got added to over the summer.

City are not quite so 'young' in that respect, but, they already had a team consisting of Toure, Aguero, Silva, Nasri, Dzeko Zabaleta, Kompany and Hart, which is a top-notch line-up. Aside from Negredo, all the players brought in over the summer were intended to add depth to the squad, not necessarily improve the first team.

Those squads were already set-up for success this season/

By contrast, United's squad has been getting older and slower for a couple of years now. Rooney is still fantastic, but, he's at his peak, and it's all downhill from here. Probably the same with RVP. Vidic is on his last legs, honestly, and Ferdinand is gone. Scholes finally retired, and he was the band-aid applied to that midfield. Carrick, too, is getting old, as is Evra. The replacements from the youth system have not been as effective (or as ambitious) as Chelsea's, nor has their spending on top names. Yes, Januzaj is proving be awesome, and signing Mata may turn the season around, but on the whole, the United squad needs a LOT of work, and I fully I believe it their victory last season was down to SAF's magic.

I also believe that's WHY he decided to retire. He could see how much of an uphill struggle was coming, and so he went out on a high.

United have the money and muscle to get themselves back in contention, and Moyes is a manager who has proven he can get a squad to achieve on a consistent long-term basis. This is why the United fans are backing him; this season need not matter, if next season they come charging out of the gates and regain their place at the top.

@man_utd i love how man united fans just care about Arsenal so much. When we lose you guys are all hyping but you guys dont look at your own sinking ship. I wont be surprised if olympiakos kick you out of Ucl they are a great team all you guys underate them cinsidering you guys lost to much worse teams.

"its not moyes fault if the players play like shite."

maybe a mix of both

Just a question did SAF when a trophy in his first season as a ManUtd manager? And then came down to one of the greatest manager of all time

@ArsenalGunners
I don't care about Arsenal fans. You flatter yourselves too much. And of course I'm aware that United are currently a "sinking ship". I'm just pointing out the fact that you guys well sink down with us evidently. You guys are doing well one season and you think you're all that. And please. If you tell me to not care about Arsenal and Arsenal fans, doesn't it seem quite hypocritical for you to say that we're going to lose of Olympiakos? Your whole argument is a fallacy, sorry to say.

And as I remember, the initial subject was about managers but it seems you've got nothing to say about that so you've deviated from that topic.
So clever.

@Knibs, there is only Moyes to blame, he shoudnt be playing players who play like shit if there were any. Players dont tend to play bad out of nowhere when just the past season they won the league...

@Whatthehell, The difference was that Ferguson didn't start coaching manager with such a team as the one we have today, he didnt get to coach a current league champion like Moyes.

@Heisinburg

Everton under Martinez are a lot more entertaining and fun to watch than they ever were under Moyes. They used to play a more boring brand of football under Moyes, but now Martinez has allowed the Everton players to express themselves on the pitch, and is having them play a brilliant band of football with some very decent players.

And to cap it all off, they are actually competing for a Champions League place. Which is unlike what Moyes had been doing the past 2-3 years (competing for Europa League).

an even bigger clap for the idiot who chose him to be the next utd manager