DId he deserve it?
no
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DId he deserve it?
no
man messi has not been appreciated enough at all
You could say he deserves it, but If Modric is getting it this year, that just shows how badly Sneijder was robbed in 2010. They've got to be more consistent with their criteria.
Modric won because voters are bored with how good Ronaldo and Messi are.
Where is "born to be makelele" kante?
Comparing modric case to sneijder case is an absurd argument. For sneijder there was a lot of competition back then such as Messi xavi iniesta Ronaldo etc. Modric on the other hand faced not much competition since this years ballon dor was the most open in over a decade with the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, varane, salah, mbappe bruyne etc having good seasons but not exceptional ones. It's the perspective you look at it.
Comparing modric case to sneijder case is an absurd argument. For sneijder there was a lot of com0ettion back then such as Messi xavi iniesta Ronaldo etc. Modric on the other hand faced not much competition since this years ballon dor was the most open in over a decade with the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, varane, salah, mbappe bruyne etc having good seasons but not exceptional ones. It's the perspective you look at it.
I agree he might have not deserved it that much but you know what, at this point, I'm just glad it someone else than Messi or Ronaldo won it. :P Also, if there anyone I don't mind seeing win this trophy despite not completely having dominate this season, its him.
There's no doubt Messi has had the best individual season of them all. But playing the best football doesn't really matter for this award, if you don't end up winning the Champions League/World Cup.
Am I the only only one who find Griezmann's and Mbappe's placements really undeserved, even though it doesn't really matter?
Hell yes it is deserved. Messi and Ronaldo don't score all solo goals, someone gets them the ball at some point.
Luca was amazing this year and this is well deserved. I wish keepers and defenders had more of an opportunity for this award as well because then it would truly represent the best overall player, but we know that offense is the shiny penny.
@darthfooty who is Luca modric?
The only award I recognize is IFFHS award. ( international Federation of Football History and statistics and they gave it to Modric for the world best playmaker. Fully deserved imo and Messi is 2nd. Messi was first past 3 years of best playmaker.
Modric got a sensational career, only player I can put above Messi this season.
Hell yes it is deserved. Messi and Ronaldo don't score all solo goals, someone gets them the ball at some point.
I mean, Messi has won 3 trophies, scored most goals, had most assist, most key passes and he has finished 5th, behind Mbappe, that's joke.
If ballon dor was all about goals assists playmaking etc then how are defenders and keepers meant to compete ? Deserved for lukita
in what terms was Mbappe better than Messi then? it's just a popularity contest, the whole gala was one big joke.
I don't think anyone can argue any other player played better/achieved more than Modric in the past season.
I don't like it either but who could have taken his place? Nobody else stood out as much for club and country.
This year's award was very weak imo. Any of the finalists in previous years could have taken it. Messi Neymar, Iniesta etc. But this season no other player deserved it more. Individually not outstanding but enough to put him in a fair 1st place.
Do you guys think the WC should have such big impact on this award? More? Less?
Totally deserved in my eyes.
But Messi out of top 3 in individual performance through out the year is quite bad... Based on, dribble, visions, impacts, goals, key passes...
But again, this award has been a popularity contest for years...
I guess people also tired of seeing CR7 and Messi won it year in year out despite both deserved it (with a couple of high controversial years)
Am I the only only one who find Griezmann's and Mbappe's placements really undeserved, even though it doesn't really matter?
Nope. Griezmann is just Griezmann, and Mbappe is good. But nowhere as good as Messi or Ronaldo were at his age.
The fact Mbappe and Griezmann were ranked above Messi (in 5th) is laughable.
Comparing modric case to sneijder case is an absurd argument.
Not absurd at all. Won the UCL that year with Inter and went all the way to the final in 2010 with Holland.
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Comparing modric case to sneijder case is an absurd argument.
Sneijer won the cup, league and CL that year and was a huge part of the Inter team. He also scored five goals at the World Cup, equal highest, and helped the Netherlands to the final, where they only lost 1-0 in ET.
Messi won it in 2010 with 22.65% of the points. Barcelona won the league, but were knocked out in the R16 in the cup, and only made the semis of the CL. Messi had 47 goals in 53 games in the 09/10 season.
Clearly the emphasis was more on goals, as Messi also beat the likes of Iniesta (2nd) and Xavi (3rd), who achieved the same club honours but won the World Cup as well.
This season Modric and Ronaldo both finish 3rd in the league with Madrid, reach the quarter finals of the cup, and win the CL. Modric plays great all season, but he wasn't much better, if better at all than Sneijder in 09/10. Sniejder definitely had more team success compared to Modric. Sneijder won the treble and had a 1-0 WC final loss in ET. Modric only won the CL and got well beaten in the final of the WC.
Ronaldo scored 44 goals in 44 games last season, and he comes 2nd in the voting for the 2018 Ballon D'or, with about half as many points as Modric.
Player | 09/10 | Ballon D'Or |
---|---|---|
Messi | 1st La Liga, R16 in Copa, SF in Cl, QF of WC, 47 goals in 54 games | 1st |
Sneijder | 1st Serie A, 1st Coppa Italia, 1st CL, Final in WC, 5 goals in the WC (= highest) | 4th |
Player | 17/18 | Ballon D'Or |
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Modric | 3rd La Liga, QF in Copa, 1st CL, Final in WC, | 1st |
Ronaldo | 3rd La Liga, QF in Copa, 1st CL, R16 of WC, 44 goals in 44 games | 2nd |
Sneijder deserved it more in '10 than Modric deserves it now.
Dont forget robben or ribery 2013 too. For me, iniesta/xavi 2010. Neuer 2014. If we want to decide this by trophies then lampard should have been at least third on 11/12 season.
Dont forget robben or ribery 2013 too. For me, iniesta/xavi 2010.
Dont forget robben or ribery 2013 too. For me, iniesta/xavi 2010. Neuer 2014.
What are your thoughts on this? DId he deserve it. On the top 10, did anyone underacheieve or overacheieve
Me personally, I don't see what Griezmann has done to get top 5, again showing this is based on trophies won, rather than actual performance. Messi outside the top 3 is a joke. And this will probably be Kane's bigger career achievement, can't see what he's done to be on this list.