I am very concerned about our team.. I think the main problem in this mess, start in the Managment section... Ed Woodward ruined the club in his 3 years of leadership. I would be in the stars if Woodward and LVG go...
What about the squad?. We must make a good cleanup... some players must go.. I bet on Carrick (thanks for his great job but we need fresh blood), Phil Jones (Once he was the young defender of year, but he is an injury prone, every year only plays 4 months), Bastian would be good if we was playing in CL because of his expirience, he must go.. Fellaini out, Lingard, others Rubbish and old Players out, new ones must come.

Lets rebuild our club, mates...
The problem is that with this crise the WORLD CLASS FOOTBALLERS WILL NOT COME Until we put our badge back to the highest level of european football

Until there we must have other good targets because the TOP-CLASS PLAYERS will not come (lets be realistic)
Bale, Pobga, Kroos, Lewandowski, and others I read everyday on papers will not come just for money.. they are already highly payed.

The way I see, the problem that Manchester United has made is that they did not look at history.

Real Madrid tried to do the very same thing that Manchester United has done, less than decade ago.

I'm talking about the time when we had a lot of players from Netherlands in our team. Robben, Sneijder, Huntelaar, Drenthe, Van Nistelrooy, and Van Deer Vart. Sure, we won the league, but that has never really been enough. We didn't really challenge for the Champions League.

What van gaal did was bring the entire Netherlands academy with him. Anthony Martial, Memphis Depay, Blind, Schneiderlin, Darmian, along with himself being Dutch. I knew right away, as soon as he started purchasing players only from his Country that his time at United will end in a disaster. The guy is more interested in selling the Dutch brand than making United good again. You cannot tell me that he is not aware of any good player from any other Country. It's not like United doesn't have the funds to get any player that is availible, and yet what Van Gal did was stack the team with Dutch players. He's a nationalistic asshat.

If United wants to be good and successful again, the first thing they need to do is fire Van Gaal and hire somebody good.

Everything else can be fixed. Players can be sold, new ones can be bought. United is not short on cash. You guys have to realize that Van Gaal is destroying your club with his nationalistic tendencies.

But somebody objective in charge. Manchester United is a big club, all you need is a decent manager to attract really great talent. Get rid of all the players who are not worthy of wearing the jersey. You need to have a good mixture of experience and young talent in a team. To me it looks like Manchester United, the club once everybody in Europe feared, have been given to little teenagers who simply do not have their shit together. Don't even mention Rooney to me, he has never been a leader and he should've been sold long ago.

The way I see, the mistake that Manchester United has made is that they did not look at history.

Real Madrid tried to do the very same thing that Manchester United has done, less than decade ago.

I'm talking about the time when we had a lot of players from Netherlands in our team. Robben, Sneijder, Huntelaar, Drenthe, Van Nistelrooy, and Van Deer Vart. Sure, we won the league, but that has never really been enough. We didn't really challenge for the Champions League.

What van gaal did was bring the entire Netherlands academy with him. Anthony Martial, Memphis Depay, Blind, Schneiderlin, Darmian, along with himself being Dutch. I knew right away, as soon as he started purchasing players only from his Country that his time at United will end in a disaster. The guy is more interested in selling the Dutch brand than making United good again. You cannot tell me that he is not aware of any good player from any other Country. It's not like United doesn't have the funds to get any player that is availible, and yet what Van Gal did was stack the team with Dutch players. He's a nationalistic asshat.

If United wants to be good and successful again, the first thing they need to do is fire Van Gaal and hire somebody good.

Everything else can be fixed. Players can be sold, new ones can be bought. United is not short on cash. You guys have to realize that Van Gaal is destroying your club with his nationalistic tendencies.

But somebody objective in charge. Manchester United is a big club, all you need is a decent manager to attract really great talent. Get rid of all the players who are not worthy of wearing the jersey. You need to have a good mixture of experience and young talent in a team. To me it looks like Manchester United, the club once everybody in Europe feared, have been given to little teenagers who simply do not have their shit together. Don't even mention Rooney to me, he has never been a leader and he should've been sold long ago.

The way I see, the mistake that Manchester United has made is that they did not look at history.

Real Madrid tried to do the very same thing that Manchester United has done, less than decade ago.

I'm talking about the time when we had a lot of players from Netherlands in our team. Robben, Sneijder, Huntelaar, Drenthe, Van Nistelrooy, and Van Deer Vart. Sure, we won the league, but that has never really been enough. We didn't really challenge for the Champions League.

Van Gaal brought the entire Netherlands academy with him. Anthony Martial, Memphis Depay, Blind, Schneiderlin, Darmian, along with himself being Dutch. I knew right away, as soon as he started purchasing players only from his Country that his time at United will end in a disaster. The guy is more interested in selling the Dutch brand than making United good again. You cannot tell me that he is not aware of any good player from any other Country. It's not like United doesn't have the funds to get any player that is availible, and yet what Van Gal did was stack the team with Dutch players. He's a nationalistic asshat.

If United wants to be good and successful again, the first thing they need to do is fire Van Gaal and hire somebody good.

Everything else can be fixed. Players can be sold, new ones can be bought. United is not short on cash. You guys have to realize that Van Gaal is destroying your club with his nationalistic tendencies.

But somebody objective in charge. Manchester United is a big club, all you need is a decent manager to attract really great talent. Get rid of all the players who are not worthy of wearing the jersey. You need to have a good mixture of experience and young talent in a team. To me it looks like Manchester United, the club once everybody in Europe feared, have been given to little teenagers who simply do not have their shit together. Don't even mention Rooney to me, he has never been a leader and he should've been sold long ago.

The way I see, the mistake that Manchester United has made is that they did not look at history.

Real Madrid tried to do the very same thing that Manchester United has done, less than decade ago.

I'm talking about the time when we had a lot of players from Netherlands in our team. Robben, Sneijder, Huntelaar, Drenthe, Van Nistelrooy, and Van Deer Vart. Sure, we won the league, but that has never really been enough. We didn't really challenge for the Champions League.

Van Gaal brought the entire Netherlands academy with him. Anthony Martial, Memphis Depay, Blind, Schneiderlin, Darmian, along with himself being Dutch. I knew right away, as soon as he started purchasing players only from his Country that his time at United will end in a disaster. The guy is more interested in selling the Dutch brand than making United good again. You cannot tell me that he is not aware of any good player from any other Country. It's not like United doesn't have the funds to get any player that is availible, and yet what Van Gal did was stack the team with Dutch players. He's a nationalistic asshat.

If United wants to be good and successful again, the first thing they need to do is fire Van Gaal and hire somebody good.

Everything else can be fixed. Players can be sold, new ones can be bought. United is not short on cash. You guys have to realize that Van Gaal is destroying your club with his nationalistic tendencies.

Put somebody objective in charge. Manchester United is a big club, all you need is a decent manager to attract really great talent. Get rid of all the players who are not worthy of wearing the jersey. You need to have a good mixture of experience and young talent in a team. To me it looks like Manchester United, the club once everybody in Europe feared, have been given to little teenagers who simply do not have their shit together. Don't even mention Rooney to me, he has never been a leader and he should've been sold long ago.

The way I see, the mistake that Manchester United has made is that they did not look at history.

Real Madrid tried to do the very same thing that Manchester United has done, less than decade ago.

I'm talking about the time when we had a lot of players from Netherlands in our team. Robben, Sneijder, Huntelaar, Drenthe, Van Nistelrooy, and Van Deer Vart. Sure, we won the league, but that has never really been enough. We didn't really challenge for the Champions League.

Van Gaal brought the entire Netherlands academy with him. Anthony Martial, Memphis Depay, Blind, Schneiderlin, Darmian, along with himself being Dutch. I knew right away, as soon as he started purchasing players only from his Country that his time at United will end in a disaster. The guy is more interested in selling the Dutch brand than making United good again. You cannot tell me that he is not aware of any good player from any other Country. It's not like United doesn't have the funds to get any player that is availible, and yet what Van Gal did was stack the team with Dutch players. He's a nationalistic asshat.

If United wants to be good and successful again, the first thing they need to do is fire Van Gaal and hire somebody good.

Everything else can be fixed. Players can be sold, new ones can be bought. United is not short on cash. You guys have to realize that Van Gaal is destroying your club with his nationalistic tendencies.

Put somebody objective in charge. Manchester United is a big club, all you need is a decent manager to attract really great talent. Get rid of all the players who are not worthy of wearing the jersey. You need to have a good mixture of experience and young talent in a team. To me it looks like Manchester United, the club once everybody in Europe feared, have been given to little teenagers who simply do not have their shit together.

A once such fearful club, now depends on the moods of when snotty little teenagers will decide to play at their own level and sweat for the jersey. You guys have no alternative, that is the problem. When the teenagers do disappoint on the field, there is no recourse. There is no punishment. They play next week again. There is no fear of losing their spot, especially those from Netherlands. Seriously, Van Gaal has turned the club into a joke. A joke that has always been Netherlands NT team. A team always with so much talent, yet have never won a major silverware.

Don't even mention Rooney to me, he has never been a leader and he should've been sold long ago.

The way I see, the mistake that Manchester United has made is that they did not look at history.

Real Madrid tried to do the very same thing that Manchester United has done, less than decade ago.

I'm talking about the time when we had a lot of players from Netherlands in our team. Robben, Sneijder, Huntelaar, Drenthe, Van Nistelrooy, and Van Deer Vart. Sure, we won the league, but that has never really been enough. We didn't really challenge for the Champions League.

Van Gaal brought the entire Netherlands academy with him. Anthony Martial, Memphis Depay, Blind, Schneiderlin, Darmian, along with himself being Dutch. I knew right away, as soon as he started purchasing players only from his Country that his time at United will end in a disaster. The guy is more interested in selling the Dutch brand than making United good again. You cannot tell me that he is not aware of any good player from any other Country. It's not like United doesn't have the funds to get any player that is availible, and yet what Van Gal did was stack the team with Dutch players. He's a nationalistic asshat.

If United wants to be good and successful again, the first thing they need to do is fire Van Gaal and hire somebody good.

Everything else can be fixed. Players can be sold, new ones can be bought. United is not short on cash. You guys have to realize that Van Gaal is destroying your club with his nationalistic tendencies.

Put somebody objective in charge. Manchester United is a big club, all you need is a decent manager to attract really great talent. Get rid of all the players who are not worthy of wearing the jersey. You need to have a good mixture of experience and young talent in a team. To me it looks like Manchester United, the club once everybody in Europe feared, have been given to little teenagers who simply do not have their shit together.

A once such fearful club, now depends on the moods of when snotty little teenagers will decide to play at their own level and sweat for the jersey. You guys have no alternative, that is the problem. When the teenagers do disappoint on the field, there is no recourse. There is no punishment. They play next week again. There is no fear of losing their spot, especially those from Netherlands. Seriously, Van Gaal has turned the club into a joke. A joke that has always been Netherlands NT team. A team always with so much talent, yet have never won a major silverware.

Don't even mention Rooney to me, he has never been a leader and he should've been sold long ago.

(tuan_jin: I hope you're not offended by what I said. I have nothing against the Dutch people. The problem I have is with Nationalistic people, and of course, the annoying little teenagers. :P )

@Amerr30

I know we disagreed on many stuff but this..THIS is simply well said

I'm glad you see it too, Joze. It's quite obvious, actually. I'm just surprised I've never actually read anybody saying anything about it. I suppose people avoid making such claims in the media, especially considering how UK sensationalizes everything but still - if it is true, it should be said. It's quite obvious, really.

Van Gaal even went as far as selling the players who would be competing with his dearly beloved Dutch teenagers.

I mean, don't you think United would really be finding a certain Chicharito Hernandez very useful right about now?

• Sold Rafael to make room for Blind. Sold Angel di Maria after only
• ONE season, having paid a record amount for him. Sold Nani, too.
• Both of them would have given both Martial and Memphis very very hard time getting into the starting 11.
• Sold Clevearley for Schneiderlin.

If he kept any of these players, the starting spot for his Dutch players would be in jeopardy. It's clear as day.

I'm glad you see it too, Joze. It's quite obvious, actually. I'm just surprised I've never actually read anybody saying anything about it. I suppose people avoid making such claims in the media, especially considering how UK sensationalizes everything but still - if it is true, it should be said.

Van Gaal even went as far as selling the players who would be competing with his dearly beloved Dutch teenagers.

I mean, don't you think United would really be finding a certain Chicharito Hernandez very useful right about now?

• Sold Rafael to make room for Blind. Sold Angel di Maria after only
• ONE season, having paid a record amount for him. Sold Nani, too.
• Both of them would have given both Martial and Memphis very very hard time getting into the starting 11.
• Sold Clevearley for Schneiderlin.

If he kept any of these players, the starting spot for his Dutch players would be in jeopardy. It's clear as day.

I'm glad you see it too, Joze. It's quite obvious, actually. I'm just surprised I've never actually read anybody saying anything about it. I suppose people avoid making such claims in the media, especially considering how UK sensationalizes everything but still - if it is true, it should be said.

Van Gaal even went as far as selling the players who would be competing with his dearly beloved Dutch teenagers.

I mean, don't you think United would really be finding a certain Chicharito Hernandez very useful right about now?

• Sold Rafael to make room for Blind.
• Sold Angel di Maria after only ONE season, having paid a record amount for him. Sold Nani, too.
• Both of them would have given both Martial and Memphis very very hard time getting into the starting 11. Not to mention a certain Chicharito.
• Sold Clevearley for Schneiderlin.

If he kept any of these players, the starting spot for his Dutch players would be in jeopardy. It's clear as day.

I'm glad you see it too, Joze. It's quite obvious, actually. I'm just surprised I've never actually read anybody saying anything about it. I suppose people avoid making such claims in the media, especially considering how UK sensationalizes everything but still - if it is true, it should be said.

Van Gaal even went as far as selling the players who would be competing with his dearly beloved Dutch teenagers.

I mean, don't you think United would really be finding a certain Chicharito Hernandez very useful right about now?

• Sold Rafael to make room for Blind.
• Sold Angel di Maria after only ONE season, having paid a record amount for him. Sold Nani, too.
• Both of them would have given both Martial and Memphis very very hard time getting into the starting 11. Not to mention a certain Chicharito.
• Sold Clevearley for Schneiderlin.

If he kept any of these players, the starting spot for his Dutch players would be in jeopardy. It's clear as day.

What I do not understand though is how.. just how did the English media and the United board allow him to do this. I agree that the manager should be given authority to buy/sell any player he wishes. However, when you see a clear agenda in somebody's actions that could actually end up changing the identity of the club - that is when you step in.

I'm glad you see it too, Joze. It's quite obvious, actually. I'm just surprised I've never actually read anybody saying anything about it. I suppose people avoid making such claims in the media, especially considering how UK sensationalizes everything but still - if it is true, it should be said.

Van Gaal even went as far as selling the players who would be competing with his dearly beloved Dutch teenagers.

I mean, don't you think United would really be finding a certain Chicharito Hernandez very useful right about now?

• Sold Rafael to make room for Blind.
• Sold Angel di Maria after only ONE season, having paid a record amount for him. Sold Nani, too.
• Both of them would have given both Martial and Memphis very very hard time getting into the starting 11. Not to mention a certain Chicharito.
• Sold Clevearley for Schneiderlin.

If he kept any of these players, the starting spot for his Dutch players would be in jeopardy. It's clear as day. Considering the amount of money he spent to get these replacements, he did not improve the quality of the team AT ALL. If anything, he lowered it. You do not stack a team that has ambitions on major silverware with unproven talent. With players who have not yet made a name for themselves.

I mean you can buy one player like that per season, two at most. And they would be mostly sitting on the bench. NOT as many as he did, and not without giving them competition. He basically just gifted them the stardom, the salary and treatment of superstars.. BEFORE they even made name for themselves.

What I do not understand though is how.. just how did the English media and the United board allow him to do this. I agree that the manager should be given authority to buy/sell any player he wishes. However, when you see a clear agenda in somebody's actions that could actually end up changing the identity of the club - that is when you step in.

@Amerr30

There was a rumor to replace De Gea with Cillessen from Ajax. I am pretty sure the club declined it thankfully.

What you are saying is on spot for me, I doubt Depay would be even bought if not Dutch and seriously so many players from those you mentioned got declined simply because LVG didn't liked them. LVG is past his best and time won't make improve things either. The team is playing 1 week and 1 week they decline. LVG thinks he is managing the Netherlands but he is managing a giant club.

The only positive I saw was the youngsters that are all massively talented besides that the whole LVG journey under UTD was a disaster besides the Liverpool derbies when they were still under Rodgers.

Back when LVG was managing Barcelona he got rid of Giovani a great striker and said he will never win anything with him so he did with Rivaldo. Giovani ended up at a Greek club making the team UCL quality and scoring goals despite such harsh injuries. Di Maria seems to be a snake but the way he was beeing treated like a 2nd quality sub was what forced him to PSG.

In fewer words LVG is a stubborn old man that will not change or will not admit his mistakes. The 5-1 vs Spain is what gave him reputation that he is still top class but it was all a big lie after all. So simply either trust Mourinho to give success to United even for 1-2 years or find a manager like Klopp.

What I fear about Jose Mourinho is that he has the problem of losing his dressing room overnight, (that is his only problem). The players get exhausted after 2 or 3 years.. I think he pressure them too much..
Mourinho, Ronald Koaman...,
Simeone(He said after the CL match: "People talk about my style of play but you have to find the style based with what you have... then he said: Not everyone has a FERRARI, sometime you must find out how to work in a FIAT".... So based on that, I think with better resources, he could put the team playing an atractive football.
I think he should be considered

Mates..
What I fear about Jose Mourinho is that he has the problem of losing his dressing room overnight, (that is his only problem). The players get exhausted after 2 or 3 years.. I think he pressure them too much..
Mourinho, Ronald Koaman...,
Simeone(He said after the CL match: "People talk about my style of play but you have to find the style based with what you have... then he said: Not everyone has a FERRARI, sometime you must find out how to work in a FIAT".... So based on that, I think with better resources, he could put the team playing an atractive football.
I think he should be considered

Mates..
What I fear about Jose Mourinho is that he has the problem of losing his dressing room overnight, (this is his only problem). The players get exhausted after 2 or 3 years.. I think he pressure them too much..
Mourinho, Ronald Koaman...,
Simeone(He said after the CL match: "People talk about my style of play but you have to find the style based with what you have... then he said: Not everyone has a FERRARI, sometime you must find out how to work in a FIAT".... So based on that, I think with better resources, he could put the team playing an atractive football.
I think he should be considered

@ashwin1729 Yes there was a rumor of the Dutch keeper to be the #1 replacement since Romero was free I think? So depending on form and performances LVG would pick 1 of the 2.

LVG took United to Europa League when Fergie was at UCL that when opponents had to play against UTD they had nightmares the day before the games. On the other hand LVG lost to a team younger than myself. I can understand having faith but LVG is poor with UTD.

@ashwin: I do appreciate loyalty, but one should be loyal to the club. To the colors, and to what the club represents. Players, coaches, owners, even stadiums change. Not a clubs philosophy or its meaning to its fans or the counry as a whole. That is what one should be in love with as far as supporting and loyalty towards the club is concerned.

I’m not saying Martial is not a good player, what I’m saying that he’s not big team – first 11 player. He wouldn’t get into the first 11 at Barcelona, at Real Madrid, at Bayern Munich, and many other bigs. Isn’t that how big United is ‘supposed’ to be? Angel DiMaria on the other hand.. a different story. Of course they’re different kind of players, but no two players are alike. However, I did not compare the two individually. I compared Di Maria and Chicharito and Nani, to.. Martial and Depay.

Now, it is true that the two players United has probably have a higher ceiling of talent to Chicharito and Nani – they have not reached it yet. They are both hugely inconsistent and I would imagine both Nani and Chicharito would have done better this season overall if they were used as starters. Neither of those players have ever really been starters at United and have both produced some wonderful moments – just as the Dutch duo.

If they wanted to really nurture their talent and get the best of them two, they should’ve been made to fight for their spots and would’ve had a fight on their hands if Di Maria, Chicharito, and Nani were kept. They weren’t. Free reign for the Dutch players – regardless how they really turn out. Sure, they’ve both produced some great stuff this season but we’re talking about ‘consistency’ here, and neither one of them have it. Not even close. They’re not proven performers. Will they ever be? Hard to say. At one point people thought Balotelli would be, that Robinho would be, and etc.

I’m not sure why I said Blind, but I meant to say Darmian. Though he did probably play other positions as well.

Again, I will not compare this guy with that guy. Simply because I do not believe that to be a fair comparison. Each player brings different things to the team, different roles that the managers asks them to play. I am comparing the team before LVG, and the team with LVG. The quality of the team as a whole is more or less the same, even though millions and millions were spent.

And a majority of that money was spent on mostly unknown Dutch players. The only ones who benefitted from all this is PSV and Netherlands because their next generation is already well known due to LVG – which probably would not be the case if not for his decisions.

The fact is, there were better players that United could’ve spent the money on. There were more promising youngsters too, if youngster is what you want.

Too much have happened to support my argument to just completely dismiss it as you have done.. Unless of course, we are going with blind devotion and support without question.

If THAT is your brand of support and view of Manchester United – than we have absolutely nothing to talk about. There is nothing that I can say that will convince you to even consider what I said. It was already clear that the only thing you were interested from the start was to try fault in my argument in order to go after my ‘credibility’ because you did not ‘like’ what I said. It’s been a while since I’ve read a more transparent motive behind a post.

Now, IF.. you actually want to open your mind for a split second and view the entirety of what I said – as a big picture, and respond to that, be my guest. I cannot wait for your opinion but if you’re going to again go looking for little things in order to go after my credibility, then don’t even bother responding.
Going back to what I said in the beginning of the post however, I do think that one should only be blindly loyal to the philosophy of a club, its history, and what it stands for.

@ashwin: I do appreciate loyalty, but one should be loyal to the club. To the colors, and to what the club represents. Players, coaches, owners, even stadiums change. Not a clubs philosophy or its meaning to its fans or the counry as a whole. That is what one should be in love with as far as supporting and loyalty towards the club is concerned.

I’m not saying Martial is not a good player, what I’m saying that he’s not big team – first 11 player. He wouldn’t get into the first 11 at Barcelona, at Real Madrid, at Bayern Munich, and many other bigs. Isn’t that how big United is ‘supposed’ to be? Angel DiMaria on the other hand.. a different story. Of course they’re different kind of players, but no two players are alike. However, I did not compare the two individually. I compared Di Maria and Chicharito and Nani, to.. Martial and Depay.

Now, it is true that the two players United has probably have a higher ceiling of talent to Chicharito and Nani – they have not reached it yet. They are both hugely inconsistent and I would imagine both Nani and Chicharito would have done better this season overall if they were used as starters. Neither of those players have ever really been starters at United and have both produced some wonderful moments – just as the Dutch duo.

If they wanted to really nurture their talent and get the best of them two, they should’ve been made to fight for their spots and would’ve had a fight on their hands if Di Maria, Chicharito, and Nani were kept. They weren’t. Free reign for the Dutch players – regardless how they really turn out. Sure, they’ve both produced some great stuff this season but we’re talking about ‘consistency’ here, and neither one of them have it. Not even close. They’re not proven performers. Will they ever be? Hard to say. At one point people thought Balotelli would be, that Robinho would be, and etc.

I’m not sure why I said Blind, but I meant to say Darmian. Though he did probably play other positions as well.

Again, I will not compare this guy with that guy. Simply because I do not believe that to be a fair comparison. Each player brings different things to the team, different roles that the managers asks them to play. I am comparing the team before LVG, and the team with LVG. The quality of the team as a whole is more or less the same, even though millions and millions were spent.

And a majority of that money was spent on mostly unknown Dutch players. The only ones who benefitted from all this is PSV and Netherlands because their next generation is already well known due to LVG – which probably would not be the case if not for his decisions.

The fact is, there were better players that United could’ve spent the money on. There were more promising youngsters too, if youngster is what you want.

Too much have happened to support my argument to just completely dismiss it as you have done.. Unless of course, we are going with blind devotion and support without question.

If THAT is your brand of support and view of Manchester United – than we have absolutely nothing to talk about. There is nothing that I can say that will convince you to even consider what I said. It was already clear that the only thing you were interested from the start was to try fault in my argument in order to go after my ‘credibility’ because you did not ‘like’ what I said. It’s been a while since I’ve read a more transparent motive behind a post.

Now, IF.. you actually want to open your mind for a split second and view the entirety of what I said – as a big picture, and respond to that, be my guest. I cannot wait for your opinion but if you’re going to again go looking for little things in order to go after my credibility, then don’t even bother responding.
Going back to what I said in the beginning of the post however, I do think that one should only be blindly loyal to the philosophy of a club, its history, and what it stands for.

What I really do not understand however is why, why would anyone want to discredit the argument I made?

Do I have anything to gain from making that argument? No. The thread asked for the opinion, and I posted mine. There is nothing that I can gain from this. I am a supporter of Real Madrid.

Things happened at United, in a certain pattern that would lead one to make such a conclusion - and I voiced it. Not 'liking' it does not mean it's not true.

I've seen the same happen with other coaches as well. For instance, needlessly spending money on Coentrao when Mourinho was the manager. A lot of managers do it, but they all do it at a negligible level and also have a reasoning that doesn't stem purely from a Nationalistic sense.

LVG did it and is doing it in an alarming way that he has to be called up on it.