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Just a little thought!
decentK 10 years ago Edited
Arsenal 38 2896

Just wondering why BPL fans don't want other BPL teams to succeed in Champions League, when for example in Ligue 1 (& I think Bundesliga) they root for each other.
It was pretty strange (in a positive way) to see AS Monaco's and PSG's twitter accounts tweeting congratulations to each other, and also teams like St.Etienne congratulated PSG too.

I'm not 100% sure of what La Liga fans do, I think atleast Barca fans don't want RMA to succeed and the other way round, due to their rivalry.

Not going to give my opinion very deeply, but (if I forget Arsenal) I like to see teams that play great football and show big heart/fight in their games to succeed in UCL.

Just thought this is quite an interesting topic.

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Just wondering why BPL fans don't want other BPL teams to succeed in Champions League, when for example in Ligue 1 (& I think Bundesliga) they root for each other.
It was pretty strange (in a positive way) to see AS Monaco's and PSG's twitter accounts tweeting congratulations to each other, and also teams like St.Etienne congratulated PSG too.
I'm not 100% sure of what La Liga fans do, I think atleast Barca fans don't want RMA to succeed and the other way round, due to their rivalry.

Not going to give my opinion, just thought this is quite an interesting topic.

Just wondering why BPL fans don't want other BPL teams to succeed in Champions League, when for example in Ligue 1 (& I think Bundesliga) they root for each other.
It was pretty strange (in a positive way) to see AS Monaco's and PSG's twitter accounts tweeting congratulations to each other, and also teams like St.Etienne congratulated PSG too.

I'm not 100% sure of what La Liga fans do, I think atleast Barca fans don't want RMA to succeed and the other way round, due to their rivalry.

Not going to give my opinion, just thought this is quite an interesting topic.

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Marcus2011 10 years ago
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

Jimbet go take a hike mate , jump on a trampoline suck on a lollipop and troll around else where , get yourself busy kid . I am learning that this is the only way to get my point across around here with members like you .

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Tuanis 10 years ago
Manchester United, England 87 2311

I support PL clubs but I hate City so there's that... Also hate Chelsea (some times) I just support the team that deserves the most to go through. Chelsea fans will always act like they are the most hated club and that they are persecuted by media more than anyone else but just like we saw in the las fixture, EVERYONE supported PSG because they were the underdogs and they were more deserving of going through.

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tuan_jinn 10 years ago
Manchester United, Netherlands 198 6912

I have ALWAYS supported and rooting for EPL's team, for the sake of EPL. Unless it's really undeserved.

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Marcus2011 10 years ago Edited
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

See tuanis it is very simple . We took United's place , but if one can be very objective, we are not quiet like United, because United was always getting good share of favored decisions from referees . Stability that was build in 20 years . Many stats will back this up and even Sir Alex does not hide it anymore in his books by slightly hinting .

We do have credible STATS backing case that referee were much more lenient to other teams when they faced us . Ofcourse it is not entirely true but when team has a player who is most fouled in the world but gets almost no one sent off ( even with accumulated yellow cards ) and got us only two penalties in domestic league . Just last game against Sottos we were again denied from clear cut penalty . You United would have been going crazy . Does not Louis Van Gaal go furious when slightly things go not his way from referee direction ?

So, conclusion is people don't like the way we play and win our matches within our style and They hate our manager Jose Mourinho because he gets under everyones skin and then on top he wins with his team to make things even worse for haters . Fine , but no need to cover it up with BS, saying as the fans are the problem and us complaining about referee is the problem . Every club manager complains about referees , but Chelsea makes the headlines because we have very flashy Manager who says things that are on his mind . He has stats to believe in whatever he says and I agree with 95% of things he says , because i watched his career since Porto , and he is rarely wrong but he gets ridiculed but in the end people realize how much right he really was .

"EVERYONE supported PSG because they were the underdogs and they were more deserving of going through."

You know PSG players and their coach would have found your words very offensive after building such a squad and investing big money . They truly did deserve to go through after their fighting performance . However, let's say that the tackle that Ibra received was fair one and Oscar in fact get's terrible attack ( which I thought it was , but for sake of argument lets assume hence you dont believe so ) , would you still say PSG deserved to go through ? With exactly same performance from the players , just except the fact that Ibra deserved to go out and the team fought for their 2-2 draw , would they still deserve ?

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See tuanis it is very simple . We took United's place , but if one can be very objective, we are not quiet like United, because United was always getting good share of favored decisions from referees . Stability that was build in 20 years . Many stats will back this up and even Sir Alex does not hide it anymore his books by slightly hinting .

We do have credible STATS backing case that referee were much more lenient to other teams when they faced us . Ofcourse it is not entirely true but when team has a player who is most fouled in the world but gets almost no one sent off ( even with accumulated yellow cards ) and got us only two penalties in domestic league . Just last game against Sottos we were again denied from clear cut penalty . You United would have been going crazy . Does not Louis Van Gaal go furious when slightly things go not his way from referee direction ?

So, conclusion is people don't like the way we play and win our matches within our style and They hate our manager Jose Mourinho because he gets under everyones skin and then on top he wins with his team to make things even worse for haters . Fine , but no need to cover it up with BS, saying as the fans are the problem and us complaining about referee is the problem . Every club manager complains about referees , but Chelsea makes the headlines because we have very flashy Manager who says things that are on his mind . He has stats to believe in whatever he says and I agree with 95% of things he says , because i watched his career since Porto , and he is rarely wrong but he gets ridiculed but in the end people realize how much right he really was .

"EVERYONE supported PSG because they were the underdogs and they were more deserving of going through."

You know PSG players and their coach would have found your words very offensive after building such a squad and investing big money . They truly did deserve to go through after their fighting performance . However, let's say that the tackle that Ibra received was fair one and Oscar in fact get's terrible attack ( which I thought it was , but for sake of argument lets assume hence you dont believe so ) , would you still say PSG deserved to go through ? With exactly same performance from the players , just except the fact that Ibra deserved to go out and the team fought for their 2-2 draw , would they still deserve ?

KTBFFHSWE 10 years ago
Chelsea FC, Sweden 52 2449

I don't give much for that the game would be rigged somehow against Chelsea through some sort of campaign on the pitch.. Yes we've only had 2 penalties awarded but so what? United has only had 2 as well but 4 against them.. I agree that the referees should pay closer attention to Hazard however.. because the amount of tackles on him are just ridiculous.. and I agree that there's a campaign against Chelsea outside the pitch in the MEDIA and on forums like this because the amount of negative attention Chelsea is getting is way above the level of any other PL team!

Anyways, back to the topic of the thread; Tonight I'll cheer on Everton! Really hope they'll win against Dynamo Kiev!

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CroatiaFan123 10 years ago
Arsenal, Croatia 66 2775

^ Whole BPL cheers for Everton now.

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Marcus2011 10 years ago
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

@ktbfhsfe

Just look at it mate . Teams that surrounded referee bullied them happened in two days of CL match game. Happened yesterday in CIty and Barcelona game but NONE gave so much publicity !! NOTHING , NADA !

Yet they are still have a nerve to bash Chelsea for little pressure on referee who should be world class at handling such incidents . Chelsea asked for yellow , he gave red . We did it once ! THey do that every week ! We did not do it to Barnes who almost ended Matic career, and we saw what happened , instead of Barnes leaving the field , it was Matic !!

Campaign by Media and the rest , yes . I strongly believe so !

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decentK 10 years ago
Arsenal 38 2896

Haha, yeps I watched both legs. You're just giving me absolutely pointless attacks, which all are wrong. This is getting hilarious. I've posted videos already on other threads on dirty moves, and there is still many more that I haven't posted. I just give genuine opinion and you seem to go absolute nuts. Guess you're too sensitive or something, dunno. You're one of those who believe in José Mourinho's campaign, tells the type of guy you are a lot.

It's just beyond hilarious how some1 can call me troll. Whatever, rather discuss with more intelligent people, or you if you could grow up tiny bit (:

Glad that I got versatile opinions of my question anyways! Cheers

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AlexBatak 10 years ago
Chelsea, Italy 204 2707

You lost me at "PSG and Underdogs"... It seems that everyone forgot how much they spent and they are far from being an underdog team..

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Marcus2011 10 years ago
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

ehh "Posted there and here ." Expressed opinion . Wtf was I doing ? @decentk

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
Cheers! ;)

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KTBFFHSWE 10 years ago
Chelsea FC, Sweden 52 2449

@decentk PSG played way dirtier than Chelsea and still you only uploaded videos of Chelsea playing dirty while trying to make Chelsea the black sheep even though we lost. Hm, that's odd.

So where were I? Yes, that's right. Campaign against Chelsea in media and on internet forums.. Yepp, still is.

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KTBFFHSWE 10 years ago
Chelsea FC, Sweden 52 2449

Anyways, Everton out of the cup as well. No English teams left in the international cups.. Can't wait till we get to hear about this from the likes of tiki etc.

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Tuanis 10 years ago
Manchester United, England 87 2311

This thread has helped people realize why Chelsea gets so much hate. Not accepting a team like PSG were the underdogs of the fixture and then Marcus saying out of nowhere that they took United's place, dont know what place you are referring to, and then claiming United got helped by referees and Chelsea the other way around... that was just what this thread needed, some Chelsea fans and their nonsense.

EPL fans in general support other EPL clubs no matter what just for the sake of the league's reputation, but there are always reasons to support or hate clubs in specific fixtures.

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tiki_taka 10 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

I actually ''dont like'' ( hate is a big word ) Chelsea for many reasons, first is the persecution toward Barça, for more than 5 years...
their fans are whining experts, i guess they whine more than Mourinho who at times give some hidden fair play post game communication after a defeat, with Chelsea, a defeat is = ref = rival fault = something non whistled....etc
The second thing is their selective memory, always remember things not on their side, i heard no one feeling disgraced about the penalty denied on 1 st leg, then they play vs PSG the whole game with 11+home advantage VS 10 men who need to come back, get a penalty and score it. And at the end making the call on Costa fouled in Pk area as the reason they were out. Probably waited Mourinho press conference to finally admit PSG deserved it.

Secondly Chelsea is the biggest budget team in the world that plays '' parking bus '' against sometimes teams not superior to them, at home at times, as a fan of Attacking Football, waiting for fixtures for weeks to finally see a no match.

Third, Mourinho, i respect him but i dont like him, im not fan of his vision about the result matter the most, for me if you dont play as a big team, you're not a big team even if you make results at times ( Mou methods does not always work )
His mind games before games are disgusting, he knows when his team will play dirty and put pressure on the ref each important game to take benefit from it.

But i think the most important was their hate toward Barça, plus they are the best haters of Messi or at least they were, he STFU to all his haters lately right Marcus ?:)

So yes at the start, no hard feelings toward them, you cant love a team that wish you defeat each single time and tarnishing the team you support for years for just one game where ref has made mistakes not even Barça, ignoring all the good calls given to them...

@Kthbf Give me a break, we all know that all English teams got eleminated on purpose to focus on '' the best league in the world '' Europe level is too low for them to concentrate on it :)...
No, things are clear now, my point looked odd for a while, he is just mainstream now, even PL fans admit it, so i dont have to say it each time, when the truth is known there is no need to say it or banter and i guess Lodatz and his bias is atually shaking his head at the moment, if you can write in his wall, tell him to comeback i wont banter him if stops insulting me....

Anyway specially for Chelsea fans, what goes arround comes arround, whined for hundred of games, its really normal that people hits you back the same way you love to do it...

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Dynastian98 10 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

I would support Barcelona in the Champions League, provided that they are not facing Real. Same goes for any other La Liga team. For example, I was supporting Barca during their tie with Manchester City, and Atletico during their tie with Leverkusen.

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Marcus2011 10 years ago Edited
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

@tuanis

LOL Mate , you are sooo cute acting like you don't know what I am talking about ! Trying to forget the old days or did you become United fan recently ? In all honesty you shared the spot with Liverpool .

You know all the EPL fans used to say and still say samething about United fans . That they are obnoxious bigot fans . You all quiet down a bit since glory days are fading away after Sir Alex left and being polite . Not on the spotlight as much . And about referees ... it is cool you can turn a blind eye on it .Forget about old United legend Howard Webbzy. Just like recently Persie elbowing and not even receiving punishment.

These are just three of the top 10 .

To refresh your memories here is another match

And it was like this every god damn season that i watched EPL !!! It was So Frustrating ! and still is but not as much as before .

Again PSG underdogs ? Team that has spent so much money and was fined for spending recently to build a squad to compete in UCL is underdog ? Thiago Silva in interview took it as insult go and read it !
Just answer one question , Do you think PSG would deserve to go through if Ibra was giving red correctly ?

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@tuanis

LOL Mate , you are sooo cute acting like you don't know what I am talking about ! Trying to forget the old days or did you become United fan recently ? In all honesty you shared the spot with Liverpool .

You know all the EPL fans used to say and still say samething about United fans . That they are obnoxious bigot fans . You all quiet down a bit since glory days are fading away after Sir Alex left and being polite . Not on the spotlight as much . And about referees ... it is cool you can turn a blind eye on it .Forget about old United legend Howard Webbzy. Just like recently Persie elbowing and not even receiving punishment.

These are just three of the top 10 .

To refresh your memories here is another match

Again PSG underdogs ? Team that has spent so much money and was fined for spending recently to build a squad to compete in UCL is underdog ? Thiago Silva in interview took it as insult go and read it !
Just answer one question , Do you think PSG would deserve to go through if Ibra was giving red correctly ?

@tuanis

LOL Mate , you are sooo cute acting like you don't know what I am talking about ! Trying to forget the old days or did you become United fan recently ? In all honesty you shared the spot with Liverpool .

You know all the EPL fans used to say and still say samething about United fans . That they are obnoxious bigot fans . You all quiet down a bit since glory days are fading away after Sir Alex left and being polite . Not on the spotlight as much . And about referees ... it is cool you can turn a blind eye on it .Forget about old United legend Howard Webbzy. Just like recently Persie elbowing and not even receiving punishment.

These are just three of the top 10 .

To refresh your memories here is another match

And it was like this every god damn season that i watched !!! It was So Frustrating !

Again PSG underdogs ? Team that has spent so much money and was fined for spending recently to build a squad to compete in UCL is underdog ? Thiago Silva in interview took it as insult go and read it !
Just answer one question , Do you think PSG would deserve to go through if Ibra was giving red correctly ?

@tuanis

LOL Mate , you are sooo cute acting like you don't know what I am talking about ! Trying to forget the old days or did you become United fan recently ? In all honesty you shared the spot with Liverpool .

You know all the EPL fans used to say and still say samething about United fans . That they are obnoxious bigot fans . You all quiet down a bit since glory days are fading away after Sir Alex left and being polite . Not on the spotlight as much . And about referees ... it is cool you can turn a blind eye on it .Forget about old United legend Howard Webbzy. Just like recently Persie elbowing and not even receiving punishment.

These are just three of the top 10 .

To refresh your memories here is another match

And it was like this every god damn season that i watched !!! It was So Frustrating ! and still is but not as much as before .

Again PSG underdogs ? Team that has spent so much money and was fined for spending recently to build a squad to compete in UCL is underdog ? Thiago Silva in interview took it as insult go and read it !
Just answer one question , Do you think PSG would deserve to go through if Ibra was giving red correctly ?

bluezz 10 years ago
Chelsea 14 724

@decentk omg dude are you serious you have been whining all week about chelsea playing dirty against psg what about the first leg? didn't see psg fouling us all game? and veratti the most dirtiest player in the first leg ( could have been sent off if referee wasn't lenient) was their best player in the second leg.

@tiki you have just described every fan in your post 'whining experts' 'complaining about refs' 'selective memory' etc let me tell you that the things you have said described EVERY fan even you.

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Marcus2011 10 years ago
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

@tiki

Dont make me laugh . Barcelona fan talking about whining , referees and etc. You are the kings ! Crown is yours ooh catolonian school of diving theather ! lol World champions at everything . and member with The most selective memory is you !

We have a legitimate reason to hate on Barca for diving and bribing referee in 2009 ( before you bring up any crap , any referee that sees 5 clear cut penalties and the last one he sees from 10 feet away turns around and leaves is BRIBED FOR SURE ) and trying to rub us again in 2012 . Why should not we hate you ? Please dude . There just many reasons to hate Barcelona .

But you know the difference between Chelsea fans and Barca fans , most chelsea fans respect football style ( we may not like it ) that Barcelona has but you constantly mock ours , because you have a poor record against us !

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tiki_taka 10 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

Not 5, 36 is a better number imo, and you should blame the ref not Barça or its players, just stay like this people understand more my point :)

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Marcus2011 10 years ago
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

I am not very good at lying tiki )

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