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Dynastian98 10 years ago Edited
Real Madrid 483 7140

The article states...

Nemanja Matic gets kicked in the shin and NOW refereeing is in a crisis? Nemaja Matic gets kicked in the shin on the follow through from a pass and NOW the league is too brutal?

Huh.

Where were you all when Martin Taylor ruined Eduardo’s English Premier League career? I know where Henry Winter was. Henry Winter was firmly in the camp which blamed Eduardo. Eduardo’s speed caused Taylor to mistime his tackle: “Caught out by Eduardo’s speed”. No. It wasn’t Eduardo’s speed. Taylor didn’t intend to maim Eduardo but this tackle followed on years of deliberate tactics, started by Manchester United and admitted to (gleefully) by Gary Neville, to kick and bully Arsenal.

Where were these pundits who are now outraged about Matic getting his shin kicked, the pundits who are saying that Matic could have had his leg broken, where were they when Michael Essien pulverized Abou Diaby’s ankle with this horror tackle?

They were silent.Where were these bandwagon pundits when Ryan Shawcross scythed down Aaron Ramsey? I’ll tell you. Henry Winter penned a piece imploring Shawcross to learn to… and I’m trying to hold the expletives in, t learn to “nick the ball“. Oh, he also tells Ramsey to basically “walk it off.” You know, don’t let the mental anguish of having your leg snapped in two by a repeat offender “get to you.”

Meanwhile, on the same day, his papermate, Alan Hansen, was writing a “story” on how Arsenal’s three broken legs in three years didn’t prove that this was a deliberate tactic on the part of some football managers. An argument which Gary Neville recently admitted was an actual tactic. And if you ever watched any post-Arsenal interview by Mourinho, Allardyce, Pulis, or any of these hacks that masquerade as managers, you know that they admit that they rough Arsenal players up.

We know it was a deliberate tactic because we saw it deployed time and again. So I ask again, where were all these pundits when Joey Barton knee-tackled Diaby from behind which outraged Diaby and saw him retaliate against Barton, earning the Arsenal man a red card?

Which one is worse? Barnes leaving his foot in for a little stamp on Matic or Barton flying in on Diaby’s leg with his knees? There is no sport that I know of where you are allowed to make a tackle like Barton’s. Where was all the hand-wringing over Diaby’s retaliation?

Or how about that time when Barton took umbrage to a perceived Gervinho dive, and picked the Arsenal man up by his lapels, shook him like a Raggedy Andy doll, and then collapsed in an ironic heap to get the Arsenal man sent off? Where were all the people calling for video replay which would have shown that Barton assaulted Gervinho? Where were all the people calling for retroactive punishment from the FA?

Oh video replay and retroactive punishment. Those are hot topics now that poor, defenseless, Nemaja Matic got kicked a little aggressively.

Oh and I hate to belabor these points, folks, but I’m gonna. I’m gonna because this isn’t ancient history with Arsenal. This season, THIS SEASON, Chelsea’s Gary Cahill committed a tackle on Alexis Sanchez which was far worse than the foul committed by Barnes on Matic:

Oh, and watch Mourinho in the lower right corner of the video. There he is, Mr. 30-33-43-69, waving for Alexis to “get up” after his man just tried to wreck him. Where are the pundits asking which tackle is worse? Where are all the pundits decrying Mourinho’s basic hypocrisy here?

Or how about when Paddy McNair took out England international Jack Wilshere this year with an absurd tackle? A tackle that the Man U fans gleefully celebrated.If you’ve been watching football at all over the last eight to ten years then you know. You know that Arsenal have been targeted by this tactic of bullying their players. It has been deliberate. Tony Pulis would revel in how “Arsenal don’t like it up ‘em” in his post-match interviews and no one breathed a word. No one called for video replay after Diaby’s red card. No one called for post-match red cards after Gervinho’s red card. But one Mourinho player gets kicked and everyone goes nuclear. It’s absurd and only goes to prove that there is a bias in the press and it’s not against Chelsea.

But like I said, I’m glad. I’m glad that so many people are now coming round to the idea that these thugs, like Gary Cahill, and these serial divers, like Wayne Rooney, need to be retroactively punished for their crimes. I’m also glad that people are calling for video replay or some other form of assistive technology for the referees. Because the problems with refereeing in England aren’t “teetering” toward crisis, it tottered a long time ago.

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The article states...

Nemanja Matic gets kicked in the shin and NOW refereeing is in a crisis? Nemaja Matic gets kicked in the shin on the follow through from a pass and NOW the league is too brutal?

Huh.

Where were you all when Martin Taylor ruined Eduardo’s English Premier League career? I know where Henry Winter was. Henry Winter was firmly in the camp which blamed Eduardo. Eduardo’s speed caused Taylor to mistime his tackle: “Caught out by Eduardo’s speed”. No. It wasn’t Eduardo’s speed. Taylor didn’t intend to maim Eduardo but this tackle followed on years of deliberate tactics, started by Manchester United and admitted to (gleefully) by Gary Neville, to kick and bully Arsenal.

Where were these pundits who are now outraged about Matic getting his shin kicked, the pundits who are saying that Matic could have had his leg broken, where were they when Michael Essien pulverized Abou Diaby’s ankle with this horror tackle?

They were silent.

Where were these bandwagon pundits when Ryan Shawcross scythed down Aaron Ramsey? I’ll tell you. Henry Winter penned a piece imploring Shawcross to learn to… and I’m trying to hold the expletives in, t learn to “nick the ball“. Oh, he also tells Ramsey to basically “walk it off.” You know, don’t let the mental anguish of having your leg snapped in two by a repeat offender “get to you.”

Meanwhile, on the same day, his papermate, Alan Hansen, was writing a “story” on how Arsenal’s three broken legs in three years didn’t prove that this was a deliberate tactic on the part of some football managers. An argument which Gary Neville recently admitted was an actual tactic. And if you ever watched any post-Arsenal interview by Mourinho, Allardyce, Pulis, or any of these hacks that masquerade as managers, you know that they admit that they rough Arsenal players up.

We know it was a deliberate tactic because we saw it deployed time and again. So I ask again, where were all these pundits when Joey Barton knee-tackled Diaby from behind which outraged Diaby and saw him retaliate against Barton, earning the Arsenal man a red card?

Which one is worse? Barnes leaving his foot in for a little stamp on Matic or Barton flying in on Diaby’s leg with his knees? There is no sport that I know of where you are allowed to make a tackle like Barton’s. Where was all the hand-wringing over Diaby’s retaliation?

Or how about that time when Barton took umbrage to a perceived Gervinho dive, and picked the Arsenal man up by his lapels, shook him like a Raggedy Andy doll, and then collapsed in an ironic heap to get the Arsenal man sent off? Where were all the people calling for video replay which would have shown that Barton assaulted Gervinho? Where were all the people calling for retroactive punishment from the FA?

Oh video replay and retroactive punishment. Those are hot topics now that poor, defenseless, Nemaja Matic got kicked a little aggressively.

Oh and I hate to belabor these points, folks, but I’m gonna. I’m gonna because this isn’t ancient history with Arsenal. This season, THIS SEASON, Chelsea’s Gary Cahill committed a tackle on Alexis Sanchez which was far worse than the foul committed by Barnes on Matic:

Oh, and watch Mourinho in the lower right corner of the video. There he is, Mr. 30-33-43-69, waving for Alexis to “get up” after his man just tried to wreck him. Where are the pundits asking which tackle is worse? Where are all the pundits decrying Mourinho’s basic hypocrisy here?

Or how about when Paddy McNair took out England international Jack Wilshere this year with an absurd tackle? A tackle that the Man U fans gleefully celebrated.

If you’ve been watching football at all over the last eight to ten years then you know. You know that Arsenal have been targeted by this tactic of bullying their players. It has been deliberate. Tony Pulis would revel in how “Arsenal don’t like it up ‘em” in his post-match interviews and no one breathed a word. No one called for video replay after Diaby’s red card. No one called for post-match red cards after Gervinho’s red card. But one Mourinho player gets kicked and everyone goes nuclear. It’s absurd and only goes to prove that there is a bias in the press and it’s not against Chelsea.

But like I said, I’m glad. I’m glad that so many people are now coming round to the idea that these thugs, like Gary Cahill, and these serial divers, like Wayne Rooney, need to be retroactively punished for their crimes. I’m also glad that people are calling for video replay or some other form of assistive technology for the referees. Because the problems with refereeing in England aren’t “teetering” toward crisis, it tottered a long time ago.

decentK 10 years ago
Arsenal 38 2896

2:08^

"Cahill didn't dive" - José Mourinho

"It was a clean, hard tackle, it's a men's game" - José Mourinho

Would like to hear what is the difference between those two pictures? Yes I can tell you, there was no "Campaign against Hull" that's the difference.


After all these are just a few of much many dives/blatant red cards
that haven't been penalized I found in 5 mins. Guess we should start #CampaignAgainstArsenal #CampaignAgainstHull

0:00-0:45 or maybe #CampaignAgainstDiaby ?

NOPE WE'RE NOT THAT PATHETIC.

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JuanMata10 10 years ago
Chelsea, Austria 17 1696

:)

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decentK 10 years ago Edited
Arsenal 38 2896

Hahaha. Let's just ignore the situations where Chelsea have escaped red cards and won pts by cheating/wrong decisions and only show pictures and tell 11 pts lost, alright. Maybe I should put few pictures and just put "21 pts won on referee's mistakes" Maybe would've been better idea to give some context or videos?

You can't tell from a picture if it's handball or not, handball doesn't mean that it touches your hand nowadays, for example if it comes with huge velocity and from 5 yds out, it is NOT a handball.

I might aswell give some context to few incidents 'cause these fb pictures don't tell anything.

Why only showed picture? Maybe because the actual video shows that Ivanovic stepped CLEARLY on Di Maria's heel when he was full speed. It's kinda funny how Chelsea fans can't see this as a foul, 'cause even Ivanovic stumbled after he stepped to Di Maria's heel. Besides, it was 2nd yellow, not straight red. How is this 2 pts lost, when this was an obvious foul that lead to a goal?

What happened at Stoke, was disgusting from Stoke and was wrongly refereed - and again, Chelsea didn't lose any pts, they won the match.

Burnley game I've said thousand times that only thing that was remarkable was Barnes foul, which should've been blatant red.

Welbeck foul happened near 90 mins when game was over, you suddenly ignored that Cahill BLATANT red was ignored which happened in the start of the game - (Which lead to Wenger's push on Mourinho, because he was just as mad of the tackle as Matic was towards Barnes (which was acceptable in Chelsea fans' opinion) and it is) Had Chelsea won, if they played w/ 10 men whole game?

Else of the "pictures" I haven't actually seen.

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Hahaha. Let's just ignore the situations where Chelsea have escaped red cards and won pts by cheating/wrong decisions and only show pictures and tell 11 pts lost, alright. Maybe would've been better idea to give some context or videos?

You can't tell from a picture if it's handball or not, handball doesn't mean that it touches your hand nowadays, for example if it comes with huge velocity and from 5 yds out, it is NOT a handball.

I might aswell give some context to few incidents 'cause these fb pictures don't tell anything.

Why only showed picture? Maybe because the actual video shows that Ivanovic stepped CLEARLY on Di Maria's heel when he was full speed. How is this 2 pts lost, when this was a obvious foul that lead to a goal?

What happened at Stoke, was disgusting from Stoke and was wrongly refereed - and again, Chelsea didn't lose any pts, they won the match.

Burnley game I've said thousand times that only thing that was remarkable was Barnes foul, which should've been blatant red.

Welbeck foul happened near 90 mins when game was over, you suddenly ignored that Cahill BLATANT red was ignored which happened in the start of the game - (Which lead to Wenger's push on Mourinho, because he was just as mad of the tackle as Matic was towards Barnes (which was acceptable in Chelsea fans' opinion) and it is) Had Chelsea won, if they played w/ 10 men whole game?

Else of the "pictures" I haven't actually seen.

Hahaha. Let's just ignore the situations where Chelsea have escaped red cards and won pts by cheating/wrong decisions and only show pictures and tell 11 pts lost, alright. Maybe I should put few pictures and just put "21 pts won on referee's mistakes" Maybe would've been better idea to give some context or videos?

You can't tell from a picture if it's handball or not, handball doesn't mean that it touches your hand nowadays, for example if it comes with huge velocity and from 5 yds out, it is NOT a handball.

I might aswell give some context to few incidents 'cause these fb pictures don't tell anything.

Why only showed picture? Maybe because the actual video shows that Ivanovic stepped CLEARLY on Di Maria's heel when he was full speed. How is this 2 pts lost, when this was a obvious foul that lead to a goal?

What happened at Stoke, was disgusting from Stoke and was wrongly refereed - and again, Chelsea didn't lose any pts, they won the match.

Burnley game I've said thousand times that only thing that was remarkable was Barnes foul, which should've been blatant red.

Welbeck foul happened near 90 mins when game was over, you suddenly ignored that Cahill BLATANT red was ignored which happened in the start of the game - (Which lead to Wenger's push on Mourinho, because he was just as mad of the tackle as Matic was towards Barnes (which was acceptable in Chelsea fans' opinion) and it is) Had Chelsea won, if they played w/ 10 men whole game?

Else of the "pictures" I haven't actually seen.

Hahaha. Let's just ignore the situations where Chelsea have escaped red cards and won pts by cheating/wrong decisions and only show pictures and tell 11 pts lost, alright. Maybe I should put few pictures and just put "21 pts won on referee's mistakes" Maybe would've been better idea to give some context or videos?

You can't tell from a picture if it's handball or not, handball doesn't mean that it touches your hand nowadays, for example if it comes with huge velocity and from 5 yds out, it is NOT a handball.

I might aswell give some context to few incidents 'cause these fb pictures don't tell anything.

Why only showed picture? Maybe because the actual video shows that Ivanovic stepped CLEARLY on Di Maria's heel when he was full speed. How is this 2 pts lost, when this was an obvious foul that lead to a goal?

What happened at Stoke, was disgusting from Stoke and was wrongly refereed - and again, Chelsea didn't lose any pts, they won the match.

Burnley game I've said thousand times that only thing that was remarkable was Barnes foul, which should've been blatant red.

Welbeck foul happened near 90 mins when game was over, you suddenly ignored that Cahill BLATANT red was ignored which happened in the start of the game - (Which lead to Wenger's push on Mourinho, because he was just as mad of the tackle as Matic was towards Barnes (which was acceptable in Chelsea fans' opinion) and it is) Had Chelsea won, if they played w/ 10 men whole game?

Else of the "pictures" I haven't actually seen.

Chucksea 10 years ago Edited
Chelsea 5 267

@decentK You're wrong on the handball rule. It doesnt matter if you're 5 or 50 yards away from the player who took the shot, if your arm is outstretched and greatly differ the trajectory of the ball it's a fault. Thats why defenders now defend 1 vs 1 in the box with their arms behind their back. So it SHOULD have been a penalty for liverpool, although cahill shows intention to put his chest into the path of the ball, it also should have been a pen against Burnley, against Newcastle too, ...

You're saying Wenger reacted by pushing Mourinho because of a bad challenge on one of his players. Exactly the case of Matic. Yet he doesnt receive punishment?

For the Stoke tackle, us chelsea fans are being really nervous about Hazard being kicked like mad every game, and are feeling the big injury coming. I dont expect referees to "protect" Hazard that would be ridiculous. Arsenal fans must feel the same about Sanchez, so you have to understand us.

On the Mikel vs Arteta challenge, if you cant see that both players are throwing themselves to the ball and that Mikel is clearly the first to get the ball, then you are blind.

Barnes was the first to get the ball against Matic but his follow through is quite bad. That is not worth a straight red. On the other hand, it was not his first foul, and his earlier challenge on Ivanovic is a total joke. High jump for a header without even going for the header as he clearly is not looking at the ball, studs in the back of Ivanovic knee, how is that not even a booking? "Had chelsea won the game if they had Cahill sent off?". I'd like to tell you, had Burnley won a point at Stanford Bridge if Barnes had been overly fairly sent off after his clash with Matic, before the latter had to make justice for himself?

Nevertheless, Matic reaction is a three game ban. He lost his head. Unprofessional. Chelsea had all the rights to appeal, and as we are playing a cup final on the week end, and that Routledge got his ban taken down for a similar case earlier this season, it was a reasonable try to do so.

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@decentK You're wrong on the handball rule. It doesnt matter if you're 5 or 50 yards away from the player who took the shot, if your arm is outstretched and greatly differ the trajectory of the ball it's a fault. Thats why defenders now defend 1 vs 1 in the box with their arms behind their back. So it SHOULD have been a penalty for liverpool, although cahill shows intention to put his chest into the path of the ball, it also should have been a pen against Burnley, against Newcastle too, ...

You're saying Wenger reacted by pushing Mourinho because of a bad challenge on one of his player. Exactly the case of Matic. Yet he doesnt receive punishment?

For the Stoke tackle, us chelsea fans are being really nervous about Hazard being kicked like mad every game, and are feeling the big injury coming. I dont expect referees to "protect" Hazard that would be ridiculous. Arsenal fans must feel the same about Sanchez, so you have to understand us.

On the Mikel vs Arteta challenge, if you cant see that both players are throwing themselves to the ball and that Mikel is clearly the first to get the ball, then you are blind.

Barnes was the first to get the ball against Matic but his follow through is quite bad. That is not worth a straight red. On the other hand, it was not his first foul, and his earlier challenge on Ivanovic is a total joke. High jump for a header without even going for the header as he clearly is not looking at the ball, studs in the back of Ivanovic knee, how is that not even a booking? "Had chelsea won the game if they had Cahill sent off?". I'd like to tell you, had Burnley won a point at Stanford Bridge if Barnes had been overly fairly sent off after his clash with Matic, before the latter had to make justice for himself?

Nevertheless, Matic reaction is a three game ban. He lost his head. Unprofessional. Chelsea had all the rights to appeal, and as we are playing a cup final on the week end, and that Routledge got his ban taken down for a similar case earlier this season, it was a reasonable try to do so.

quikzyyy 10 years ago
Arsenal 429 9010

You know what? You Chelsea fans only see your club, yourself, no one else. You see yourself as a something better than other football teams, with your god Mourinho. Cahill tackle on Sanchez, he didn't even touched the ball, clear red card, but nah you didn't said anything then.

Ramires foul vs PSG in UCL, clean penalty, yet almost everyone of you said that's not way near the penalty.


Meanwhile if you seen whole Barnet vs Matic challenge, you can CLEARLY see that Barnes played the ball before touching Matic, what he had to do with his leg? Matic was late in that challenge. Yea it looked horrible, I can understand what Matic did, and easily it could have been broken leg but, you're all forgetting that Barnet passed the ball, while Matic was the one who was late in that challenge.

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JuanMata10 10 years ago Edited
Chelsea, Austria 17 1696

@decentK: “Hahaha. Let's just ignore the situations where Chelsea have escaped red cards and won pts by cheating/wrong decisions and only show pictures and tell 11 pts lost, alright.”
lol read your previous post, you did exactly the same as me, you only posted situations where decisions went in Chelsea’s favour and ignored the situations where decisions clearly went against us.

“Maybe I should put few pictures and just put "21 pts won on referee's mistakes" Maybe would've been
better idea to give some context or videos?“
Please, try, if you’re that desperate to bash Chelsea and have so much time on your hands, please feel free to do it. But I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t even find 6 points that we gained due to wrong referee decisions.

“You can't tell from a picture if it's handball or not, handball doesn't mean that it touches your hand nowadays, for example if it comes with huge velocity and from 5 yds out, it is NOT a handball. I might aswell give some context to few incidents 'cause these fb pictures don't tell anything”
Uhm, do I have to remind you that we’re on the internet? There’s a site called YouTube that you can use for your research in case you don’t know.

“Why only showed picture? Maybe because the actual video shows that Ivanovic stepped CLEARLY on Di Maria's heel when he was full speed. It's kinda funny how Chelsea fans can't see this as a foul, 'cause even Ivanovic stumbled after he stepped to Di Maria's heel. Besides, it was 2nd yellow, not straight red. How is this 2 pts lost, when this was an obvious foul that lead to a goal?”

Yeah, right, it’s a clear foul, that’s why Di Maria went on and only fell to the ground after 3 or 4 seconds *sarcasm*. The contact was slight and didn’t deserve a yellow, especially in a “rough” league like the BPL. Also, it’s funny that you highlight this incident. You probably forgot that we should’ve had a penalty earlier on when Rojo used his wrestling skills to bring down Terry. If that penalty was given United would have left the ground without a single point and we wouldn’t even have this discussion right now.

“What happened at Stoke, was disgusting from Stoke and was wrongly refereed - and again, Chelsea didn't lose any pts, they won the match.”
It’s not just about not losing points, it’s about having an easier game.

“Burnley game I've said thousand times that only thing that was remarkable was Barnes foul, which should've been blatant red.”
Which Barnes foul are you talking about? Because as far as I’m concerned he commited two challenges that were more than worthy of a red card. If the ref got his decision right in the 30th minute and sent that d.ickhead off, the incident with Matic wouldn’t even had happened and we would’ve gone home with 3 more points in our pocket. Also, he’d be available for the C1C final.

“Welbeck foul happened near 90 mins when game was over, you suddenly ignored that Cahill BLATANT red was ignored which happened in the start of the game - (Which lead to Wenger's push on Mourinho, because he was just as mad of the tackle as Matic was towards Barnes (which was acceptable in Chelsea fans' opinion) and it is) Had Chelsea won, if they played w/ 10 men whole game?”
What about the situation where Sanchez punched Ivanovic in the face in the same game in the first half. That’s
worthy of a red card, too. If I recall correctly, Ramires was sent off last season for a similar action. Why don’t you talk about this? Also, the fact that Wenger didn't get punished just shows the antipathy of the FA towards Chelsea.

@quikzyyy: What are you talking about, mate? Every Chelsea fan on the forum has admitted that it was a clear penalty.

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@decentK:

“Hahaha. Let's just ignore the
situations where Chelsea have escaped red cards and won pts by cheating/wrong
decisions and only show pictures and tell 11 pts lost, alright.”

lol read your previous post, you did
exactly the same as me, you only posted situations where decisions went in Chelsea’s
favour and ignored the situations where decisions clearly went against us.

“Maybe I should put few pictures and
just put "21 pts won on referee's mistakes" Maybe would've been
better idea to give some context or videos?“

Please, try, if you’re that desperate
to bash Chelsea and have so much time on your hands, please feel free to do it.
But I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t even find 6 points that we gained due to wrong
referee decisions.

“You can't tell from a picture if
it's handball or not, handball doesn't mean that it touches your hand nowadays,
for example if it comes with huge velocity and from 5 yds out, it is NOT a
handball. I might aswell give
some context to few incidents 'cause these fb pictures don't tell anything”

Uhm, do I have to remind you that we’re
on the internet? There’s a site called YouTube that you can use for your
research in case you don’t know.

“Why
only showed picture? Maybe because the actual video shows that Ivanovic stepped
CLEARLY on Di Maria's heel when he was full speed. It's kinda funny how Chelsea
fans can't see this as a foul, 'cause even Ivanovic stumbled after he stepped
to Di Maria's heel. Besides, it was 2nd yellow, not straight red. How is this 2
pts lost, when this was an obvious foul that lead to a goal?”

Yeah, right, it’s a clear foul, that’s
why Di Maria went on and only fell to the ground after 3 or 4 seconds *sarcasm*.
The contact was slight and didn’t deserve a yellow, especially in a “rough”
league like the BPL. Also, it’s funny that you highlight this incident. You
probably forgot that we should’ve had a penalty an earlier on when Rojo used
his wrestling skills to bring down Terry. If that penalty was given United would
have left the ground without a single point and we wouldn’t even have this
discussion right now.

“What
happened at Stoke, was disgusting from Stoke and was wrongly refereed - and
again, Chelsea didn't lose any pts, they won the match.”

It’s not just about not losing
points, it’s about having an easier game.

“Burnley
game I've said thousand times that only thing that was remarkable was Barnes
foul, which should've been blatant red.”

Which Barnes foul are you talking
about? Because as far as I’m concerned he commited two challenges that were
more than worthy of a red card. If the ref gets his decision right in the 30th
minute and sent that d.ickhead off the incident with Matic wouldn’t even had
happened and we would’ve gone home with 3 more points in our pocket. Also, he’d
be available for the C1C final.

“Welbeck
foul happened near 90 mins when game was over, you suddenly ignored that Cahill
BLATANT red was ignored which happened in the start of the game - (Which lead
to Wenger's push on Mourinho, because he was just as mad of the tackle as Matic
was towards Barnes (which was acceptable in Chelsea fans' opinion) and it is)
Had Chelsea won, if they played w/ 10 men whole game?”

What about the situation where
Sanchez punched Ivanovic in the face in the same game in the first half. That’s
worthy of a red card, too. If I recall correctly, Ramires was sent off last
season for a similar action. Why don’t you talk about this?

@quikzyyy: What are you talking about, mate? Every Chelsea fan on the forum has admitted that it was a clear penalty.

@decentK: “Hahaha. Let's just ignore the situations where Chelsea have escaped red cards and won pts by cheating/wrong decisions and only show pictures and tell 11 pts lost, alright.”
lol read your previous post, you did exactly the same as me, you only posted situations where decisions went in Chelsea’s
favour and ignored the situations where decisions clearly went against us.

“Maybe I should put few pictures and just put "21 pts won on referee's mistakes" Maybe would've been
better idea to give some context or videos?“
Please, try, if you’re that desperate to bash Chelsea and have so much time on your hands, please feel free to do it.
But I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t even find 6 points that we gained due to wrong referee decisions.

“You can't tell from a picture if
it's handball or not, handball doesn't mean that it touches your hand nowadays, for example if it comes with huge velocity and from 5 yds out, it is NOT a handball. I might aswell give some context to few incidents 'cause these fb pictures don't tell anything”
Uhm, do I have to remind you that we’re on the internet? There’s a site called YouTube that you can use for your
research in case you don’t know.

“Why only showed picture? Maybe because the actual video shows that Ivanovic stepped CLEARLY on Di Maria's heel when he was full speed. It's kinda funny how Chelsea fans can't see this as a foul, 'cause even Ivanovic stumbled after he stepped to Di Maria's heel. Besides, it was 2nd yellow, not straight red. How is this 2 pts lost, when this was an obvious foul that lead to a goal?”

Yeah, right, it’s a clear foul, that’s why Di Maria went on and only fell to the ground after 3 or 4 seconds *sarcasm*.
The contact was slight and didn’t deserve a yellow, especially in a “rough” league like the BPL. Also, it’s funny that you highlight this incident. You probably forgot that we should’ve had a penalty an earlier on when Rojo used his wrestling skills to bring down Terry. If that penalty was given United would have left the ground without a single point and we wouldn’t even have this discussion right now.

“What happened at Stoke, was disgusting from Stoke and was wrongly refereed - and again, Chelsea didn't lose any pts, they won the match.”
It’s not just about not losing points, it’s about having an easier game.

“Burnley game I've said thousand times that only thing that was remarkable was Barnes foul, which should've been blatant red.”

Which Barnes foul are you talking about? Because as far as I’m concerned he commited two challenges that were
more than worthy of a red card. If the ref gets his decision right in the 30th minute and sent that d.ickhead off the incident with Matic wouldn’t even had happened and we would’ve gone home with 3 more points in our pocket. Also, he’d
be available for the C1C final.

“Welbeck foul happened near 90 mins when game was over, you suddenly ignored that Cahill BLATANT red was ignored which happened in the start of the game - (Which lead to Wenger's push on Mourinho, because he was just as mad of the tackle as Matic was towards Barnes (which was acceptable in Chelsea fans' opinion) and it is) Had Chelsea won, if they played w/ 10 men whole game?”

What about the situation where Sanchez punched Ivanovic in the face in the same game in the first half. That’s
worthy of a red card, too. If I recall correctly, Ramires was sent off last season for a similar action. Why don’t you talk about this?

@quikzyyy: What are you talking about, mate? Every Chelsea fan on the forum has admitted that it was a clear penalty.

@decentK: “Hahaha. Let's just ignore the situations where Chelsea have escaped red cards and won pts by cheating/wrong decisions and only show pictures and tell 11 pts lost, alright.”
lol read your previous post, you did exactly the same as me, you only posted situations where decisions went in Chelsea’s favour and ignored the situations where decisions clearly went against us.

“Maybe I should put few pictures and just put "21 pts won on referee's mistakes" Maybe would've been
better idea to give some context or videos?“
Please, try, if you’re that desperate to bash Chelsea and have so much time on your hands, please feel free to do it. But I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t even find 6 points that we gained due to wrong referee decisions.

“You can't tell from a picture if it's handball or not, handball doesn't mean that it touches your hand nowadays, for example if it comes with huge velocity and from 5 yds out, it is NOT a handball. I might aswell give some context to few incidents 'cause these fb pictures don't tell anything”
Uhm, do I have to remind you that we’re on the internet? There’s a site called YouTube that you can use for your research in case you don’t know.

“Why only showed picture? Maybe because the actual video shows that Ivanovic stepped CLEARLY on Di Maria's heel when he was full speed. It's kinda funny how Chelsea fans can't see this as a foul, 'cause even Ivanovic stumbled after he stepped to Di Maria's heel. Besides, it was 2nd yellow, not straight red. How is this 2 pts lost, when this was an obvious foul that lead to a goal?”

Yeah, right, it’s a clear foul, that’s why Di Maria went on and only fell to the ground after 3 or 4 seconds *sarcasm*. The contact was slight and didn’t deserve a yellow, especially in a “rough” league like the BPL. Also, it’s funny that you highlight this incident. You probably forgot that we should’ve had a penalty an earlier on when Rojo used his wrestling skills to bring down Terry. If that penalty was given United would have left the ground without a single point and we wouldn’t even have this discussion right now.

“What happened at Stoke, was disgusting from Stoke and was wrongly refereed - and again, Chelsea didn't lose any pts, they won the match.”
It’s not just about not losing points, it’s about having an easier game.

“Burnley game I've said thousand times that only thing that was remarkable was Barnes foul, which should've been blatant red.”

Which Barnes foul are you talking about? Because as far as I’m concerned he commited two challenges that were
more than worthy of a red card. If the ref gets his decision right in the 30th minute and sent that d.ickhead off the incident with Matic wouldn’t even had happened and we would’ve gone home with 3 more points in our pocket. Also, he’d
be available for the C1C final.

“Welbeck foul happened near 90 mins when game was over, you suddenly ignored that Cahill BLATANT red was ignored which happened in the start of the game - (Which lead to Wenger's push on Mourinho, because he was just as mad of the tackle as Matic was towards Barnes (which was acceptable in Chelsea fans' opinion) and it is) Had Chelsea won, if they played w/ 10 men whole game?”

What about the situation where Sanchez punched Ivanovic in the face in the same game in the first half. That’s
worthy of a red card, too. If I recall correctly, Ramires was sent off last season for a similar action. Why don’t you talk about this?

@quikzyyy: What are you talking about, mate? Every Chelsea fan on the forum has admitted that it was a clear penalty.

@decentK: “Hahaha. Let's just ignore the situations where Chelsea have escaped red cards and won pts by cheating/wrong decisions and only show pictures and tell 11 pts lost, alright.”
lol read your previous post, you did exactly the same as me, you only posted situations where decisions went in Chelsea’s favour and ignored the situations where decisions clearly went against us.

“Maybe I should put few pictures and just put "21 pts won on referee's mistakes" Maybe would've been
better idea to give some context or videos?“
Please, try, if you’re that desperate to bash Chelsea and have so much time on your hands, please feel free to do it. But I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t even find 6 points that we gained due to wrong referee decisions.

“You can't tell from a picture if it's handball or not, handball doesn't mean that it touches your hand nowadays, for example if it comes with huge velocity and from 5 yds out, it is NOT a handball. I might aswell give some context to few incidents 'cause these fb pictures don't tell anything”
Uhm, do I have to remind you that we’re on the internet? There’s a site called YouTube that you can use for your research in case you don’t know.

“Why only showed picture? Maybe because the actual video shows that Ivanovic stepped CLEARLY on Di Maria's heel when he was full speed. It's kinda funny how Chelsea fans can't see this as a foul, 'cause even Ivanovic stumbled after he stepped to Di Maria's heel. Besides, it was 2nd yellow, not straight red. How is this 2 pts lost, when this was an obvious foul that lead to a goal?”

Yeah, right, it’s a clear foul, that’s why Di Maria went on and only fell to the ground after 3 or 4 seconds *sarcasm*. The contact was slight and didn’t deserve a yellow, especially in a “rough” league like the BPL. Also, it’s funny that you highlight this incident. You probably forgot that we should’ve had a penalty an earlier on when Rojo used his wrestling skills to bring down Terry. If that penalty was given United would have left the ground without a single point and we wouldn’t even have this discussion right now.

“What happened at Stoke, was disgusting from Stoke and was wrongly refereed - and again, Chelsea didn't lose any pts, they won the match.”
It’s not just about not losing points, it’s about having an easier game.

“Burnley game I've said thousand times that only thing that was remarkable was Barnes foul, which should've been blatant red.”
Which Barnes foul are you talking about? Because as far as I’m concerned he commited two challenges that were more than worthy of a red card. If the ref gets his decision right in the 30th minute and sent that d.ickhead off the incident with Matic wouldn’t even had happened and we would’ve gone home with 3 more points in our pocket. Also, he’d be available for the C1C final.

“Welbeck foul happened near 90 mins when game was over, you suddenly ignored that Cahill BLATANT red was ignored which happened in the start of the game - (Which lead to Wenger's push on Mourinho, because he was just as mad of the tackle as Matic was towards Barnes (which was acceptable in Chelsea fans' opinion) and it is) Had Chelsea won, if they played w/ 10 men whole game?”
What about the situation where Sanchez punched Ivanovic in the face in the same game in the first half. That’s
worthy of a red card, too. If I recall correctly, Ramires was sent off last season for a similar action. Why don’t you talk about this? Also, the fact that Wenger didn't get punished just shows the antipathy of the FA towards Chelsea.

@quikzyyy: What are you talking about, mate? Every Chelsea fan on the forum has admitted that it was a clear penalty.

tiki_taka 10 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

The victim posture is so sweet :) accusing others for diving, while apparently the biggest divers wear Blue.

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FF0Dessip 10 years ago Edited
Chelsea, Egypt 1 13

This thread is pathetic.

We could spend hours arguing over horror tackles. All teams have been both the victims and perpetrators of these sort of situations. ALL clubs. So you're right, that also means Chelsea are guilty of some horrible tackles too. We're sorry, and as football fans, our sympathies were with Eduardo, Ramsey, and all the players that suffered bone breaking tackles - that also means the Chelsea players you all hate. But you know what? Crying over spilt milk doesn't do sh*t. Instead, let's try to get video assistance now. Or would you rather wait until one of your very own players become the victim of another career-ending tackle to finally get the idea in your head?

Think about this as football fans. Not as a Chelsea, Madrid, Arsenal or Barca fan.

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This thread is pathetic.

We could spend hours arguing over horror tackles. All teams have been both the victims and perpetrators of these sort of situations. ALL clubs. So you're right, that also means Chelsea are guilty of some horrible tackles too. We're sorry, and as football fans, our sympathies were with Eduardo, Ramsey, and all the players that suffered bone breaking tackles - that also means the Chelsea players you all hate. But you know what? Crying over spilt milk doesn't do sh*t. Instead, let's try to get video assistance now. Our would you rather wait until one of your very own players become the victim of a carrer-ending tackle to finally get the idea in your head?

This thread is pathetic.

We could spend hours arguing over horror tackles. All teams have been both the victims and perpetrators of these sort of situations. ALL clubs. So you're right, that also means Chelsea are guilty of some horrible tackles too. We're sorry, and as football fans, our sympathies were with Eduardo, Ramsey, and all the players that suffered bone breaking tackles - that also means the Chelsea players you all hate. But you know what? Crying over spilt milk doesn't do sh*t. Instead, let's try to get video assistance now. Our would you rather wait until one of your very own players become the victim of a carrer-ending tackle to finally get the idea in your head?

Think about this as football fans. Not a Chelsea, Madrid, Arsenal or Barca fan.

This thread is pathetic.

We could spend hours arguing over horror tackles. All teams have been both the victims and perpetrators of these sort of situations. ALL clubs. So you're right, that also means Chelsea are guilty of some horrible tackles too. We're sorry, and as football fans, our sympathies were with Eduardo, Ramsey, and all the players that suffered bone breaking tackles - that also means the Chelsea players you all hate. But you know what? Crying over spilt milk doesn't do sh*t. Instead, let's try to get video assistance now. Or would you rather wait until one of your very own players become the victim of a carrer-ending tackle to finally get the idea in your head?

Think about this as football fans. Not a Chelsea, Madrid, Arsenal or Barca fan.

This thread is pathetic.

We could spend hours arguing over horror tackles. All teams have been both the victims and perpetrators of these sort of situations. ALL clubs. So you're right, that also means Chelsea are guilty of some horrible tackles too. We're sorry, and as football fans, our sympathies were with Eduardo, Ramsey, and all the players that suffered bone breaking tackles - that also means the Chelsea players you all hate. But you know what? Crying over spilt milk doesn't do sh*t. Instead, let's try to get video assistance now. Or would you rather wait until one of your very own players become the victim of a career-ending tackle to finally get the idea in your head?

Think about this as football fans. Not as a Chelsea, Madrid, Arsenal or Barca fan.

Marcus2011 10 years ago
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

Lmao what a biased pathetic load of crap
@tiki

Lol you have no say in this , biggest diving team was officially printed with bronze letters on your jerseys and approved world wide ! Lmao so pathetic of you .

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Jimbet 10 years ago
Arsenal, Malaysia 12 1292

for all these bad tackles that were unpunished, i blame the referee. yeah, some players play dirty but poor judgement from the referee leads to controversial situations. those players are lucky to getaway from their doings. thats just my opinion. agree with FF0Dessip on the video assistance stuff. need ASAP.

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DrunkenMonkey 10 years ago
West Ham United, England 16 204

Pretty much, there is no campaign against chelsea and this whole situation had been overhyped fro some reason. Sometimes decisions go against you but champions get past that and to be fair some things have gone for chelsea when they shouldnt have.

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decentK 10 years ago
Arsenal 38 2896

@chuksea

Yep that's what I mean with the Wenger thing, it was same thing. My point was that Chelsea fans think Matic didn't deserve anything for his reaction, so why would Wenger deserve then. I know both probably deserve something, though I kinda understand Wenger, 'cause if I remember correctly José went to his way, because he was too scared Cahill would get red.

On Stoke situation as I said before I agree with you, I said it was horrible.

Disagree with the Obi Mikel thing.

I still stay in same opinion of the handball rule, for past 2 seasons, I haven't seen any handball whistled from 3-5 yds with velocity, and it shouldn't. Too tired to find the the rule, but in those cases usually it's PLAYED TO HAND rather than PLAYING WITH HAND.

Cheers for staying classy.

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Zakzook 10 years ago
Arsenal, Syria 32 785

for anyone who denies injuring Arsenal players is a tactic deployed... watch Arsenal vs Manchester United 2004, the game that we lost our 49 no-lose streak.

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HorseAFC 10 years ago
60 798

@zakzook Too much bullshit in that match. Way too much cheating. The ref was horrible.

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Marcus2011 10 years ago
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

Well Gooners , back to your hate holes . After such performance against Monaco , sit there and wait till second leg . Spurs would have performed better IMO . Same mistakes over and over again . It is like this club never learns .

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HorseAFC 10 years ago
60 798

@Marcus This thread isn't about Monaco or Champions League.

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Marcus2011 10 years ago
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

ok sorry you are right

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HorseAFC 10 years ago
60 798

@Marcus It's okay friend =)

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Cavin11 10 years ago
Chelsea, United States 2 884

fabulous performance against Monaco after marvelous thread

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