http://ca.reuters.com/article/idCAKCN0YR0O9?rpc=401&pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0

I swear, some people really make me mad, bringing up this kind of stuff to football. Why would it matter what religion a player have, as long as he respect the law and act with like a true sportman, why would you reproach anything to the man. People see political message were they are none. Anyway, what do you guys think about all this?

The action against discrimination should be done in our homes, the main problem is that the native people of Europe don't feel overwhelmed by those refugees. And we, because we are responsible of this mess and we are bombing the Middle East, we should rebuild their homes and bring them back in their home country. Those people wouldn't have left if their country was doing fine. I am not against immigration of the most unfortunate people on earth but Europe cannot be shelter of all misery ( that we created ) in the world

@tikitaka @marcus2011 and all the others who have come up with "logic" and "facts" to prove men are better than women.
I would like to point your attention to the line which started this debate, which was when quikzyyy stopped reading the article because it was written by a woman.
If a man had written the article, then we all would be saying how disillusioned and idiot that man is. But since it's written by a woman, you guys condemn not the writer's stupidity, but her gender. When you refuse to listen to the opinion of a person just because she is a woman, you are putting across that you are somehow superior than that woman. Now, men may be stronger physically than women, but nowhere is it written that men's brains are superior to women's.
Feminism is not about putting women first and men second. It's about equality. Equality in jobs, pay, and more than that the basic attitude and mindset. The thought that men are superior to women soon turns into the notion that women are somehow have a hand in getting themselves raped.
Somebody commented here about your daughter asking that she wants to be a porn star or something.
Tell me this - Your daughter is in a group discussion, on the basis of which she will be selected for a high-paying job. She is putting her points of view forth on various topics clearly and confidently. But nobody listens to her, because she is a woman. A man is saying the same things, and he gets selected. How will you feel? Or will you stop listening to her because she is a woman??

Edit: Sorry @Emo for deviating from the topic again

@saatvik Nah, its okay. I think both party are actually making interesting point and I changed my mind. I don't mind it as long as it no bother for any mod.

Also, just wanted set thing right about the article, the gender of the writer is unknow, it is the person who is quoted in the article that is women. Just saying because a lot of you guys didn't seem to explain it right.

Feminism : Political movment following the Marxist model of the world being only about the class struggle less teached and probably erased from all our books soon. A solid definition of feminism would be sex struggle.

class struggle : the conflict of interests between the workers and the ruling class in a capitalist society, regarded as inevitably violent.

The aim of the story is to liberate women from men oppression, that vison of the world i call it personally a victimary communitarism based on genders. women are alienated by men and should be liberated from their domination, thats the serious definition of feminism.

but femenism revendications wich are majoritary legitime are manipulated to put them in reality as servant of the market society and society of wage labor, which is the same thing. we took their emancipation revendications to put make them employees and consumers.

It started in USA with the theory of the '' new woman '' wich consisted to put the woman out of the house wich is a nonmarket role '' useless for our masters '' without any power to direct purchase and give a sens of guilt to the fact that caring for her husband and children is a feeling of humiliation and men domination. And to bring them from the sphere of influence of their husband to the sphere influence of their boss. We finally discover ( or not for some -_-' ) that at the end women got now 2 alienations instead of one husband and boss, double work, double journey with 2 more responsibilities wich in lower classes was seen as a regression of the women comfort with an 8 hours job in addition the house duties....

What i have said above with a poor English is that feminism is not the same depending on women class, the interest of feminism has always been for Bourgeoisie women ( midle-upper class ), 75% of feminist militant are part of this class and 100% of the leaders, their aim is to be emancipated from their hose role as a wife or mother to go to the civilian society wich is a plus for them to have lucrative and interesting jobs ( lawyers, politicians....) while the lower class women had to go to factories or to clean upper class houses or to go to the work chain and thats a Huge difference.

And you can also see that the dream of a poor young girl is to escape to hard labour by marying a rich guy and make her only care of their house escaping to production imperatives, while in Bourgeoisy the women dreams to escape from the boredom of being the women of the house and get a more interesting social life at the expense of 2 or 3 women ( babysitters, maid, cook.....who have to do double task ) there is clearly an opposition of feminism depending on classes but you will hear this nowhere.

Emancipation of midle class women is and will always be at the expense of the lower class women because someone needs to care about the children, to cook, to clean up and to do the same in their own houses late in the night. knowing that lower class is the majority of a nation is it progression or regression ? What will the children of the maid become when their mother is 10 hours in others house and come back late exhausted ?

And its not a choice its an obligation, to have a maid/babysitter you should earn enough to pay, here in average you should earn 5 or 6 times more at least while in lower classes women earn like or less than the babysitter. TO WORK IS NOT A CHOICE today its an OBLIGATION for women, when you look at salaries and life cost no family could afford to have only one Salary in lower classes wich is a SOCIAL REGRESSION comparing to what we had before, what our GRANDPARENTS FOUGHT FOR. ( before having dumb children militating for their own slavery ) A women that doesnt work in lower classes is considered as a luxury.

First you think you were fighting to get the right to work, but its finally an obligation and even more what the market society wants, extend the growing market more and more and extend the wages and the purchasing power.

what feminist expose as a right they fought for was in reality what the merchant society always wanted put women on the labor market and the market for consomation:

In the 50th they were not many to ask for feminism, and they were few to fight for it almost all from midle and midle uo class, for me these women were the '' USEFUL IDIOTS OF THE MARKET SOCIETY ''. Where feminism has developed '' class struggle '' regressed at the expense of lower classes.... The most intelligent French women with good values all were agaisnt feminism as a fight.

At the end some talk about equity, false debate, wrong debate, nobody is machist here, nobody hates women, nobody is a predator, we used to say to girls that they were beatuful in the street and get a beatiful contact with them. Now everything is harrasment, domniation.....everyone is chasing girls in the internet, trying to have his most beatiful picture updated. Or get drunk and go to a night club to finally get a conversation, Are we really progressing ? Are we happier than before ? Are women happier than before ? Are these changes benefitting to us or jsut to the system ?

I made a little more time to look less ignorant than i do with my poor English, i think if we were talking French i would have done many Football analyses, i took time here, im not special SternDesSuedens, I just try to think in 2016 without consuming informations like a big mac, wich could be seen as different.

Im not pointing that men are better than women, my points may not be understandable using my poor English at work using my cell phone. I started by saying that feminism is a joke, we cannot compare a dog and a cat and i do not have any preference but the equilibrium of both made human what he is, the role of the wife and the mother cannot be replaced by a man, and basic feminist should also admit the opposite when it comes to men historical ereas....some exceptions doesnt comfirm the rule. And our liberal libertarian way of thinking since the 50's was made by people who wanted to dominate us, and SADLY they did ideologically and even more, we are owned by our banks and our hierarchy, we should at least be aware of it.

for me feminism doesn't mean that every woman should leave their home, not care about children and just work until the end of their life.
In my opinion it's about giving women a choice to do whatever the hell they want with their life, like men obviously have the choice to do whatever the hell they want. and that's a good thing I think.
I'd call my mother a 'feminist' and still she raised me and my sister. It's not a contradiction, and it's no exception of the rule either. And we are not 'upper class' at all.
That's what feminism is for me, of course there are other peope who try to abuse that cause or exaggerate it e.g. compliments being taken as harrasment etc. there are many crazy feminists out there.
But I think we can agree that giving a woman the same choices and chances a man has can't be a bad thing?

I agree that our politics and economic rules are fucked up. "Emancipation of midle class women is and will always be at the expense of the lower class women because someone needs to care about the children, to cook, to clean up and to do the same in their own houses late in the night" there is certainly truth to this. But I don't think the cause for that is emancipation, but capitalism. And the disregard of our society towards poor people. It's not the fault of emancipation that some women have to work double jobs and care for their children at the same time, barely earning enough to live. you know what I mean? there are as many men as there are women from the lower class who work all day all night just to make ends meet.

and if you don't think you're special, I wrote that because you often write stuff like that, like you're the only one who can think for yourself, and everyone else is brainless, stuck in the matrix. I'm not consuming informations like a big mac just because I don't agree with you on some parts :)
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