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Fernando Torres this season...
Dynastian98 12 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

I saw the top comment at Chelsea 3-1 Rubin Kazan, and Jeffrey_Hazard is right!

Goals this season

Fernando Torres - 19 goals, 52 apps (37%)
Wayne Rooney - 16 goals, 30 apps (53%)
Javier Hernandez - 16 goals, 28 apps (57%)
Carlos Tevez - 16 goals, 37 apps (43%)
Sergio Aguero - 13 goals, 31 apps (42%)
Edin Dzeko - 13 goals, 36 apps (36%)
Demba Ba - 18 goals, 37 apps (49%)
Olivier Giroud - 16 goals, 42 apps (38%)
Jermain Defoe - 14 goals, 38 apps (37%)
Emmanuel Adebayor - 4 goals, 25 apps (16%)
Papiss Cisse - 10 goals, 38 apps (26%)
Romelu Lukaku - 13 goals, 30 apps (43%)

Well guys? Torres has outscored all these fantastic strikers, although most of their goals-per-game ratio is better than Torres'. Is Torres improving? Or are the other strikers having just bad luck?

And you guys can kinda take Rooney out of the equation since he's been playing a more withdrawn role than he used to, and is more of a central midfielder now than a forward.

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devilz 12 years ago
Manchester United, England 47 670

hes still shit though. and more than half the goals have just been tap ins anyway.

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Dynastian98 12 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

@devilz

But that is what a poacher does. Isn't almost half of Chicharito's goals tap ins? But why do you still respect him? Because that's his job, and his talent, and he does it well. Just like that, Torres' job is as a poacher. His goals are tap ins because his team mates are so good, they can give him the ball at the last second so that he can tap it in the back of the net.

And don't forget, Torres came third place to the Ballon d'Or once, only behind Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. That's a position Andres Iniesta has been occupying lately.

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20ROBINVANPERSIE 12 years ago
Manchester United, England 26 349

^ not most most are headress or shot fromm penalty spot

and that was liverpool torres this is wayyyyyy different

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Footaholic 12 years ago
Arsenal, Egypt 178 2277

I think whenever people speak of goal scoring records to additional stats are needed to give the full picture:
#1- Distribution of the goals. For example, Olivier Giroud has a pretty healthy goal return for his first years but many of them are in clusters. Therefore, as @Dynsastian mentions the goals-per-game ratio is key.
#2- How many of those goals were point-winning goals. In other words, certain strikers may have a good soring rate the surface but their goals may come when the game has already been won. The importance of strikers like RVP & Bale for example, is that their goals are the game changing ones.

I don't have the above 2 stats for Torres but my gut tells me they wouldn't be that great and THAT is why it gives a clearer picture of why his tally is deceptively good.

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20ROBINVANPERSIE 12 years ago
Manchester United, England 26 349

NOTE all the players who have scored less have LESS games 

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Footaholic 12 years ago
Arsenal, Egypt 178 2277

Oh yea, also forgot the shots per goal (aka conversion ratio) stat which also tells a lot. Some strikers get a lot more opportunities (because of the team they play on) than others so that helps to identify how clinical they are. 

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mladen 12 years ago
Manchester United, Yugoslavia 253 2319

( 20-30 games more than other strikers )  do u think he is worth 50 millions ? Like chicharito,Džeko,Cisse,Ba,Giroud all together ?

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nandaYNWA 12 years ago
Liverpool, Australia 87 946

If you let Rooney play 22 more games as the main striker, I'm sure he'd score more than 3 goals

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Dynastian98 12 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

Guys, guys. My question was, is Torres IMPROVING. He scored what, 11 goals last season? This season he has 19. Although Footaholic pointed out that Torres has an awful conversion rate and goals-per-game ratio, is he better than before (not Atletico/Liverpool era. I mean the Chelsea era in his career)?

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awais007 12 years ago
Chelsea, Pakistan 178 922

Being a Chelsea fan i will say that he is still not a 50M Torres which we buy from Liverpool. he should score 60%+ of goals/match percentage this season.
Juan mata is  key player for Chelsea this season and player far better than Nando

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WhatTheHell 12 years ago
Barcelona, Spain 15 591

no way 37% is not better than 57% so Torres is not better than Rooney or whoever he mentioned in the highlights

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WhatTheHell 12 years ago
Barcelona, Spain 15 591

@Dynastian where did you get statistics?

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ramaboy10 12 years ago
Mauritius 285 6463

Yea, true, but look at the difference of appearences

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redknapp 12 years ago
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footaholic, chelsea are still in Europa League because of torres only. **Steaua Bucuresti won their home game 1-0. In the second leg, Chelsea were 2-1 up, but they still needed a goal to comfortably
qualify to next round, Torres scored the goal to make it 3-1. Yesterday also, he scored the opener, which I think is opposite of 
how you described his abilities.
Infact, Chelsea are also in FA Cup because of Torres. On 27/01/2013, Brentford were 2-1 up when Torres scored to draw the
match 2-2 and earn a crucial re-play for the team which they later won 4-0. He scored in the 90th minute to get that re-play
otherwise Chelsea were OUT of the cup.**

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quikzyyy 12 years ago
Arsenal 429 9010

"Torres has outscored all these fantastic strikers" I bet if all these players would play same matches as Torres they would score more, instead of Adebayor

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MRarsenal500 12 years ago
Arsenal, England 59 741

Because maybe Hazard,Oscar,Mata don't feed him good balls?

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ramaboy10 12 years ago
Mauritius 285 6463

They DO o.0

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MRarsenal500 12 years ago
Arsenal, England 59 741

They don't they are greedy. 

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quikzyyy 12 years ago
Arsenal 429 9010

lol, actually Torres got so many opportunities to score. And these players are giving him so much balls.

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Jeffrey_Hazard 12 years ago
Chelsea, France 81 456

if he was 20 million then it was okay,but 50 million?oh well...but still he is usually crap in every game,but the fact is that he scored 19 goals this season but look at the apps,it is still well quite average I think but not for a 50 million striker.But still i expect him to be his usual (crappy form) back.And his europa league form is not bad really.

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