We had an interesting round 4. The top leagues did as following:

England: 0/4 wins (2 ties)
Germany: 3/4 wins (0 ties)
Spain: 3/4 wins (0 ties)
Portugal: 3/3 wins (0 ties)
Italy: 1/2 wins (0 ties)
France: 1/2 wins (0 ties)

I want to take this moment to really say that I admire Portuguese football and what they manage. truly fantastic, I'm a big fan. Also, I think at this exact moment, the Bundesliga should be considered the best. Great job they're doing too.

My questions then is, what do you think the results will be in Round 5?

CSKA - Roma 1-2
BATE - Porto 0-4
Man City - Bayern 1-3
APOEL - Barcelona 0-4
PSG - Ajax 2-1
Schalke - Chelsea 1-1
Sporting - Maribor 3-0
Shakhtar - Bilbao 4-1

Matchday 2:

Zenit - Benfica 0-1
Atletico - Olympiacos 3-0
Malmo - Juventus 0-1
Ludogorets - Liverpool 2-1
Basel - Real Madrid 0-3
Leverkusen - Monaco 2-1
Anderlecht - Galatasaray 1-2
Arsenal - Dortmund 1-4

CSKA - Roma 1-1
BATE - Porto 0-3
Man City - Bayern 0-2
Apoel - Barcelona 0-2
PSG - Ajax 1-1
Schalke - Chelsea 1-0
Sporting - Maribor 3-1
Shakthar - Bilbao 2-1

Zenit - Benfica 2-0
Atletico - Olympiakos 1-1
Malmo - Juventus 0-3
Ludogorets - Liverpool 2-3
Basel - Real Madrid 0-2
Leverkusen - Monaco 1-0
Anderlecht - Galatasaray 3-1
Arsenal - Dortmund 0-4

So, why don't you go ahead and do a similar post for THIS week's results? ;)

I only got the Barcelona scoreline correct, LOL.

Dortmund and Bayern secured first place in round 4, not a reason to lose anyway but the fact is that they played for fun.
Well done City and Arsenal, i would love to see Arsenal with their full weapons, Alexis gives them Caracter.

Spanish result : 4 games, 4 wins, 10 scored, 0 conceded, what else ?

4 wins against : FC Basel, Apoel Nicosie, Olympiacos and Shakhtar (already qualified playing "for fun" against the disqualified Bilbao). What else?

Oh yes, Dortmund played 'for fun'.

Funny how you always claim that teams play 'for fun' when English teams beat them.

Arsenal comfortably beat Dortmund for the 2nd time in two years, and can still top their group. City beat Bayern for the 2nd time in two years, and can still make the last 16. Chelsea thrashed Schalke out of the park.

Who did the Spanish teams play, by the way? Oh yeah: APOEL, Basel, Olympiakos and Shaktar.

Bit of a difference. ;)

3 Premier league teams beat 3 Bundes Liga teams, that's better image for EPL.

Dortmund 4 games 12 pts, same for Bayern, thats all i said.

What seems to be usual result in Spain is celebrated like a silverware by lodatz, thats the difference ;)

Remember 4-0 & 0-3, usual, so usual...

First time that all 4 German teams lost in the same matchday.

Also the first time two Argentines have scored hat-tricks on the same matchday (Messi and Aguero). Congratulations to both.

@Lodatz

Let's not forget, my good friend, that Manchester City needed a red card, two gifted defensive errors, along with a penalty to beat Bayern. Bayern are comfortably better than City, and City were fortunate to come out with 3 points.

@Dynast:

"needed a red card, two gifted defensive errors, along with a penalty"

Oh c'mon. You're describing exactly how Barcelona beat City, last season.

If it counted then, then it counts now, too. :)

You say 'gifted defensive errors' as though it discounts the goals which were scored. I don't believe that it does, and that instead it shows that Bayern Munich are not so good as to avoid making defensive errors, which excellent players (such as City's) are able to take advantage of.

Does the same work in reverse? Well, sort of. Let's take a look at game stats, shall we?

Possession:
City: 39 percent
Bayern: 61 percent

Shots (on target/off target/blocked):
City: 5 / 4 / 2
Bayern: 4 / 2 / 1

Corners:
City: 6
Bayern: 0

Offside:
City: 7
Bayern: 0

Crosses:
City: 17
Bayern: 6

So, with 61 percent of possession, Bayern proceeded to comes second-best in EVERY SINGLE OTHER STAT. Zero corners, to City's 6. Hell, they only even put in 6 crosses all game, compared to 17 (that's nearly 3 times as many!) by City.

City fortunate to take 3 points? Bullshit. City out-played Bayern in every stat, and deserved all 3 points. Don't forget that Bayern, themselves, only scored from a sneaky free-kick and a lucky bounce off Lewa's head.

Don't be a hater, man. City beat Bayern Munich, deservedly so, for the 2nd season in a row (and contrary to tiki's nonsense about playing for fun, last season City were one goal shy of topping Bayern's group). Bayern may be 'better', and I agree that they are, but that doesn't mean that City haven't shown they can stand toe-to-toe with them (as did Arsenal not that long ago, just so we remember, who again comfortably beat Dortmund for the 2nd season in a row).

"What seems to be usual result in Spain is celebrated like a silverware by lodatz, thats the difference ;)"

A usual result? Yes, because it's not like we have memories of 7-0, or anything, is it?

The only Spanish team who have played well against the German top 2 is Madrid, last season. The English teams, like Chelsea, Arsenal and City have been actually beating and drawing with them for 3 seasons now.

I use facts. You use bullshit. THAT's the difference. :)

Yeah Lodatz is right City got more corners, definitely deserved win :D c'mon guys...

"Yeah Lodatz is right"

Congratulations. :)

+1

Happy you loved it ;)

@Lodatz, currently I have a lot of work so i will do one in a few days, with summary of this round AND predictions for the last round.

@Lod

But that was Bayern's tactic. They knocked the ball around all game, and hoped to not make any obvious moves (such as attacking at City) in order to prevent the counter-attack ripping up their defense. It is a wise tactic from Guardiola, and would've been pulled off to perfection if not for the two defensive errors that gave Aguero two chances on goal. And with a striker like Aguero, you're going to get a goal almost every open chance he gets.

And yes, that is how Barcelona beat City last season. In almost the same manner in which City beat Bayern two days ago. I don't hate City, I'm a big fan. So don't get the wrong idea/message.

Bayern dominated City with 10 players... Enough said. And, you obviously didn't watch the match if you think City deserved all the 3 points.