My prediction (to make it easy, copy and paste from me and put your own predictions)

Matchday 1:

CSKA - Roma 1-2
BATE - Porto 0-4
Man City - Bayern 2-2
APOEL - Barcelona 0-1
PSG - Ajax 2-1
Schalcke - Chelsea 1-2
Sporting - Maribor 3-0
Shakhtar - Bilbao 2-0

Matchday 2:

Zenit - Benfica 0-1
Atletico - Olympiacos 2-1
Malmo - Juventus 0-2
Ludogorets - Liverpool 0-2
Basel - Real Madrid 1-3
Leverkusen - Monaco 2-1
Anderlecht - Galatasaray 1-1
Arsenal - Dortmund 2-2

^ Again, I don't even think it's just Chelsea performing well.

Arsenal went out to Bayern two seasons in a row, with the first time coming down to goal difference. Along the way they beat Dortmund, Napoli and Marseilles.

United topped their group two years in a row, destroying Sociedad, Shaktar, Leverkeusen and Galatassaray along the way. Last season they fell to Bayern, which is no shame, having at least gotten a draw at the Allianz, and the year before that they were robbed against a Madrid side they had basically out-played until Nani was sent off.

City have been a disappointment, sure, considering the level their squad should be playing at, but we should also remember that they beat Bayern in the Allianz and were one goal shy of topping their group altogether, last season. They might still pull it out this year, despite the silly results against Moscow, and get to the 2nd round, where they would still be dangeorus for anyone to face.

And, as ever, we have to once again point out the fact that City were down to ten men in BOTH legs against Barcelona. In fact, aside from Atleti beating Chelsea, I can't remember the last time a Spanish team beat an English one when that did not happen. It's almost as if the Spanish teams really struggle to beat the English teams when it is 11 v 11, isn't it? ;)

See, all this because La Liga fan boys just can't stop insulting the PL.

@Argjent: Again, I don't even think it's just Chelsea performing well.

Arsenal went out to Bayern two seasons in a row, with the first time coming down to goal difference. Along the way they beat Dortmund, Napoli and Marseilles.

United topped their group two years in a row, destroying Sociedad, Shaktar, Leverkeusen and Galatassaray along the way. Last season they fell to Bayern, which is no shame, having at least gotten a draw at the Allianz, and the year before that they were robbed against a Madrid side they had basically out-played until Nani was sent off.

City have been a disappointment, sure, considering the level their squad should be playing at, but we should also remember that they beat Bayern in the Allianz and were one goal shy of topping their group altogether, last season. They might still pull it out this year, despite the silly results against Moscow, and get to the 2nd round, where they would still be dangerous for anyone to face.

And, as ever, we have to once again point out the fact that City were down to ten men in BOTH legs against Barcelona. In fact, aside from Atleti beating Chelsea, I can't remember the last time a Spanish team beat an English one when that did not happen. It's almost as if the Spanish teams really struggle to beat the English teams when it is 11 v 11, isn't it? ;)

Iraqi is clearly just being a troll. See, all this because La Liga fan boys just can't stop insulting the PL. It's funny how when Atletico, Sociedad, Villareal, Valencia, Bilbao and yes, even Madrid themselves were getting knocked out the the first round every year, somehow THAT didn't count, and La Liga was still the best.

But when it's the PL? Noooooo, it must be that the PL is crap. :p

Bias, bias, bias. That's all it ever is.

@Argjent: Again, I don't even think it's just Chelsea performing well.

Arsenal went out to Bayern two seasons in a row, with the first time coming down to goal difference. Along the way they beat Dortmund, Napoli and Marseilles.

United topped their group two years in a row, destroying Sociedad, Shaktar, Leverkeusen and Galatassaray along the way. Last season they fell to Bayern, which is no shame, having at least gotten a draw at the Allianz, and the year before that they were robbed against a Madrid side they had basically out-played until Nani was sent off.

City have been a disappointment, sure, considering the level their squad should be playing at, but we should also remember that they beat Bayern in the Allianz and were one goal shy of topping their group altogether, last season. They might still pull it out this year, despite the silly results against Moscow, and get to the 2nd round, where they would still be dangerous for anyone to face.

And, as ever, we have to once again point out the fact that City were down to ten men in BOTH legs against Barcelona. In fact, aside from Atleti beating Chelsea, I can't remember the last time a Spanish team beat an English one when that did not happen. It's almost as if the Spanish teams really struggle to beat the English teams when it is 11 v 11, isn't it? ;)

Iraqi is clearly just being a troll. See, all this because La Liga fan boys just can't stop insulting the PL. It's funny how when Atletico, Sociedad, Villareal, Valencia, Bilbao and yes, even Madrid themselves were getting knocked out the the first round every year, somehow THAT didn't count, and La Liga was still the best.

But when it's the PL teams losing to the defending champions? Noooooo, it must be that the PL is crap. :p

Bias, bias, bias. That's all it ever is.

@iraqi_madridista First,when i see your comments i think you are only 14-15 years old,Second,Valencia,Bilbao,Sociedad were so weak in UCL.Atl.Madrid only these 2 years is performing good in UCL and in La Liga too. @Lodatz you're right.But really i don't see Arsenal or Man.Utd to do smth big like to at semifinal at least.in other side Chelsea,for me they have the best mid. in the world right now,and they have Mourinho.And my opinion is that only Chelsea [This year] can be a very good challenge for Real Madrid,Barca or Bayern M.

@iraqi_madridista First,when i see your comments i think you are only 14-15 years old,Second,Valencia,Bilbao,Sociedad were so weak in UCL.Atl.Madrid only these 2 years is performing good in UCL and in La Liga too. @Lodatz you're right.But really i don't see Arsenal or Man.Utd to do smth big like to go at semifinal at least .in other side Chelsea,for me they have the best mid. in the world right now,and they have Mourinho.And my opinion is that only Chelsea [This year] can be a very good challenge for Real Madrid,Barca or Bayern M.

@iraqi_madridista First,when i see your comments i think you are only 14-15 years old,Second,Valencia,Bilbao,Sociedad were so weak in UCL.Atl.Madrid only these 2 years is performing good in UCL and in La Liga too. @Lodatz you're right.But really i don't see Arsenal or Man.Utd to do smth big like to go at semifinal at least .in other side Chelsea,for me they have the best mid. in the world right now,and they have Mourinho.And my opinion is that only Chelsea [This year] can be a very good challenge for Real Madrid,Barca or Bayern M.[i'm talking for these last 2 years] :)

@iraqi_madridista First,when i see your comments i think you are only 14-15 years old,Second,Valencia,Bilbao,Sociedad were so weak in UCL.Atl.Madrid only these 2 years is performing good in UCL and in La Liga too.And i prefer to watch England Championship games like some La Liga games @Lodatz you're right.But really i don't see Arsenal or Man.Utd to do smth big like to go at semifinal at least .in other side Chelsea,for me they have the best mid. in the world right now,and they have Mourinho.And my opinion is that only Chelsea [This year] can be a very good challenge for Real Madrid,Barca or Bayern M.[i'm talking for these last 2 years] :)

Yep Lilly Bundesliga and Liga Sagres are on the rise, their top teams are progressing in Europe and numbers prooves it.

The batle between Calcio and Liga Sagres would be exciting, Bundesliga and PL as well and of course Lige 1 Vs Russian league, all those leagues are getting closer to each others.

For the favourites, im not Rulling or Atletico or Dortmund that both caused troubles to Madrid, both clubs have incredible fighting spirit in 2 legs confrontations.

For me the favourites are like this :

1- Bayern
2- Real Madrid
3- Atletico Madrid
4- Chelsea
5- Dortmund
6- Barcelona

Considering United Arsenal and City results against Bayern, we may forget that Bayern had alredy did the job before meeting in the second leg, Bayern were able to defeat the 3 teams with ease in England and the 2nd game, they just did the minimum, this year they are hungry and getting forward for a revenge i guess any English team should be praying to avoid them, Spanish as well.

I may agree that Barça isnt convincing but at the same time they did far better than Arsenal, United and City lately who were very far from being contenders, Barça lost 2-1 on agg against Atleti, Chelsea 3-1 but it doesnt mean anything, Madrid went loosing 2-0 in Dortmund away and 2 weeks later defeated Bayern away 0-4 so whatever.

Yeah, really impressive. I was blinded by the mainstream idea that Bundesliga is weak, not anymore now.
Bayern dominating the league doesnt neceserly mean that other teams arent good enough, it only shows how actual Bayern is great.
Hatts off, and please dont draw us :)