Marcus2011
10 years ago
@juan +1 Get em mate ! We can start little game , catch hypocrite tiki on his BS . :D
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Marcus2011
10 years ago
@juan +1 Get em mate ! We can start little game , catch hypocrite tiki on his BS . :D
Ataru8
10 years ago
We will beat barca 2-0 aguero and bony
tiki_taka
10 years ago
Edited
I would rather see Barça loose by open playing and pushing forward, rather than Park the bus with a 600M Euros worth team, coward tactics...Or the whinner Marcus when ref isnt on his side, very quiet when ref favourise your team.
Chelsea wont win CL doesnt have europeen level ;) and you will face the truth quickly... Its a matter of days...
Parking the bus doesnt guarantee you success, hoping for Chelsea - Barça very soon or Chelsea - Madrid or Chelsea - Atletico.
Or the whinner Marcus when ref isnt on his side, very quiet when ref favourise your team.
Chelsea wont win CL doesnt have europeen level ;) and you will face the truth quickly... Its a matter of days...
Or the whinner Marcus when ref isnt on his side, very quiet when ref favourise your team.
Chelsea wont win CL doesnt have europeen level ;) and you will face the truth quickly... Its a matter of days...
Parking the bus doesnt guarantee you success, hoping for Chelsea - Barça very soon or Chelsea - Madrid or Chelsea - Atletico.
Marcus2011
10 years ago
Well , you watch what you want to watch , I will just seat back and enjoy how Barcas open play hero football results in thrashings like the one from Bayern :)) . Not sure how you calculated but even if it is so then At least Chelsea are 600 million of clean earned money players , not corrupted club , children trafficking , tax frauds and player transfer fraud type of club , Qatar blood money backed club , backed by government type of club , robbing blind tv shares from other clubs type of money club and on top getting trophies with referee type of club when pretty football does not work out . Although , Ehh does not bother barca fans much . As longest there is guaranteed success ! Chelsea may play ultra defensive at times but at least we win fair square .
Btw parking bus team wins you money on betting sites , dont they ? Lol Next time go Bet on City or United or Arsenal , they play pretty football. They have guaranteed success week and week out .
No one said Chelsea will win CL . we do hope we will . And are you Barca fan or Madrid fan ? Wtf are you ? So you are hoping if we whoop barcelona , madrid or Atletico will get sweet revenge for your bitter sore times as barca fan ?
tiki_taka
10 years ago
Go ask your KGB president from where he got his fortune, and how much people he killed before becomming a gentleman. Comparing a Historical team such as Barça to a club owned by Russian mafia, taking a club such as Vitesse Arnheim as a feeder club denniying them playing CL and using them as Chelsea B.
Be quiet the past is recent yet, not many long ago, you used to overpay players with KGB and oil money...
Chelsea giving lessons of good manners, thats like devil inviting angels to behave good.
No its the end ;)
tiki_taka
10 years ago
PSG got robbed, by a mediocre mentality team helped by ref. Good night.
Marcus2011
10 years ago
Edited
Blah blah , where is the proof ? Is he on trial ? was he on trial in Russia ? Speak facts .
Facts : Former president Josep Lluis Nunez who helped build Famous La Massia is in prison .
Barca was on trial for tax evasions, child trafficking, Qatar over 1000 people died in construction works , club constantly backs Catalonia independance and in return catalonia backs Barca ( politics and football should never mix ) , Does not want to negotiate a deal with other clubs because club is too greedy basically robbing other clubs money rights putting them in deeper debt .
LOL your club is big fraud ! build on shame mate ! Wait do barca and their fans have shame ? nope , it is a fairy tale.
Blah blah , where is the proof ? Is he on trial ? was he on trial in Russia ? Speak facts .
Facts : Former president Josep Lluis Nunez who helped build Famous La Massia is in prison .
Barca was on trial for tax evasions, child trafficking, Qatar over 1000 people died in construction works , club constantly backs Catalonia independance and in return catalonia backs Barca ( politics and football should never mix ) , Does not want to negotiate a deal with other clubs because club is too greedy basically robbing other clubs money rights putting them in deeper debt .
LOL your club is big fraud ! build on shame mate ! Wait do barca and their fans have shame ? nope , it is a fairy tale.
Blah blah , where is the proof ? Is he on trial ? was he on trial in Russia ? Speak facts .
Facts : Former president Josep Lluis Nunez who helped build Famous La Massia is in prison .
Barca was on trial for tax evasions, child trafficking, Qatar over 1000 people died in construction works , club constantly backs Catalonia independance and in return catalonia backs Barca ( politics and football should never mix ) , Does not want to negotiate a deal with other clubs because club is too greedy basically robbing other clubs money rights putting them in deeper debt .
LOL your club is big fraud ! build on shame mate ! Wait do barca and their fans have shame ? nope , it is a fairy tale.
KTBFFHSWE
10 years ago
@tiki Barca created in 1899, Chelsea created in 1905. We got history too. And regarding the "feeder club Vitesse".. that's the way it is in English football since we aren't allowed to dump players in a B-team competing in the same league system.. You should know that..
As to the owners, there are things to sat about both clubs.. so neither of you should argue in that direction..
tiki_taka
10 years ago
Edited
All proofs are on the internet, but you are too blind to see it. His biography is there too after Urss fall, all the actual Billionnaires from Russia are from KGB family.
When you support Chelsea, better keep quiet on clubs behaviour, you' re the worst in Europe.
All the proves are on the internet, but you are too blind to see it.
When you support Chelsea, better keep quiet on clubs behaviour, you' re the worst in Europe.
tiki_taka
10 years ago
Roman Should have flied over White hart lane, and you would probably be a Spurs fan.
Marcus2011
10 years ago
I found this on internet : "If you want to know truth , look it up in the internet " - Aristotle
LOL you just make my day more enjoyable .
Lol if Spurs did all the illegal things that Barca did and have Messi , you would have been Spurs fan .
RealMadrid17
10 years ago
Chelsea vs Barca in quarter finals pls. The amounts of arguments between Tiki and Chelsea fans will be unreal. might have to buy some popcorn.
tiki_taka
10 years ago
Edited
I am a Barça fan since Romario and Stoichkov, i didnt started to support a team because of their money, plastic fan go to sleep.
Watched Messi debut in 2003 and was a stranger for everyone, didnt waited him to get success to follow him...
Barça make players, Chelsea just buy and sell, a Football parasite club.
I am a Barça fan since Romario and Stoichkov, i didnt started to support a team because of their money, plastic fan go to sleep.
Marcus2011
10 years ago
I am Chelsea fan since 1986 , I used to support this club when no one did and blah blah blah Who can confirm it ?
That is why I don't brag about when I became fan and why I became fan . It is irrelevant and hard to prove , so move on no need to make a Barca patriotic speech .
Lodatz
10 years ago
Edited
If Arsenal had not moved to North London in 1910 to leech away local fans, you ALL would be Spurs fans, because we would be the biggest, most successful club in the world... O:)
Barcelona do indeed make players.
Well, recently, if not historically.
That one time. The one with Messi, Iniesta, Xavi etc.
Funnily enough, the next La Masia generation doesn't seem anywhere near as good as the previous one. And it's not like La Masia was anything special at all until Cruyff became manager and was then fired before he could reap the rewards of the youth academy he totally revolutionized.
I really wish people wouldn't try the whole 'Barca make players not buy them' nonsense when Barcelona have spent the 3rd-most money in the entire world since 2008, which is when the golden generation of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, Pique, Fabregas and Busquets came to full age.
Did you catch that? During the most successful spell in Barcelona history, with the greatest academy graduation class since the Ajax of the 1970s, Barcelona were STILL only out-spent by City and Madrid.
Wanna see?
Doesn't really matter much to this season's CL (well, aside from the 200m they spent over the last 2 years to bring in Suarez, Rakatic, Neymar, Ter Stegen etc, of course), but, since it was brought up...
Oh, and it's funny how the Stoichkov & Romario era was brought up, since it was when Barcelona basically assembled the Dream Team for ridiculous amounts of money!
They were the Chelsea/PSG/City of their day, and so if any of their fans are plastic, bandwagon, glory-hunting, bandwagon fans, then Barca fans from that era are in the same category. ;)
Oh. The. Irony.
If Arsenal had not moved to North London in 1910 to leech away local fans, you ALL would be Spurs fans, because we would be the biggest, most successful club in the world... O:)
Barcelona do indeed make players. Well, recently,
Once.
Funnily enough, the next La Masia generation doesn't seem anywhere near as good as the previous one. And it's not like La Masia was anything special at all until Cruyff became manager.
I really wish people wouldn't try the whole 'Barca make players not buy them' nonsense when Barcelona have spent the 3rd-most money in the entire world since 2008, which is when the golden generation of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, Pique and Busquets came to full age.
Did you catch that? During the most successful spell in Barcelona history, with the greatest academy guraduation class since the Ajax of the 1970s, Barcelona were STILL only out-spent by City and Madrid.
Wanna see?
If Arsenal had not moved to North London in 1910 to leech away local fans, you ALL would be Spurs fans, because we would be the biggest, most successful club in the world... O:)
Barcelona do indeed make players. Well, recently,
Once.
Funnily enough, the next La Masia generation doesn't seem anywhere near as good as the previous one. And it's not like La Masia was anything special at all until Cruyff became manager.
I really wish people wouldn't try the whole 'Barca make players not buy them' nonsense when Barcelona have spent the 3rd-most money in the entire world since 2008, which is when the golden generation of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, Pique and Busquets came to full age.
Did you catch that? During the most successful spell in Barcelona history, with the greatest academy graduation class since the Ajax of the 1970s, Barcelona were STILL only out-spent by City and Madrid.
Wanna see?
If Arsenal had not moved to North London in 1910 to leech away local fans, you ALL would be Spurs fans, because we would be the biggest, most successful club in the world... O:)
Barcelona do indeed make players. Well, recently,
Once.
Funnily enough, the next La Masia generation doesn't seem anywhere near as good as the previous one. And it's not like La Masia was anything special at all until Cruyff became manager.
I really wish people wouldn't try the whole 'Barca make players not buy them' nonsense when Barcelona have spent the 3rd-most money in the entire world since 2008, which is when the golden generation of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, Pique and Busquets came to full age.
Did you catch that? During the most successful spell in Barcelona history, with the greatest academy graduation class since the Ajax of the 1970s, Barcelona were STILL only out-spent by City and Madrid.
Wanna see?
Doesn't really matter much to this season's CL (well, aside from the 115m they spent to bring in Suarez, Rakatic, Vermaelen and Ter Stegen, of course), but, since it was brought up...
If Arsenal had not moved to North London in 1910 to leech away local fans, you ALL would be Spurs fans, because we would be the biggest, most successful club in the world... O:)
Barcelona do indeed make players. Well, recently,
Once.
Funnily enough, the next La Masia generation doesn't seem anywhere near as good as the previous one. And it's not like La Masia was anything special at all until Cruyff became manager and was then fired before he could reap the rewards of the youth academy he totally revolutionized.
I really wish people wouldn't try the whole 'Barca make players not buy them' nonsense when Barcelona have spent the 3rd-most money in the entire world since 2008, which is when the golden generation of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, Pique and Busquets came to full age.
Did you catch that? During the most successful spell in Barcelona history, with the greatest academy graduation class since the Ajax of the 1970s, Barcelona were STILL only out-spent by City and Madrid.
Wanna see?
Doesn't really matter much to this season's CL (well, aside from the 115m they spent to bring in Suarez, Rakatic, Vermaelen and Ter Stegen, of course), but, since it was brought up...
If Arsenal had not moved to North London in 1910 to leech away local fans, you ALL would be Spurs fans, because we would be the biggest, most successful club in the world... O:)
Barcelona do indeed make players. Well, recently,
Once.
Funnily enough, the next La Masia generation doesn't seem anywhere near as good as the previous one. And it's not like La Masia was anything special at all until Cruyff became manager and was then fired before he could reap the rewards of the youth academy he totally revolutionized.
I really wish people wouldn't try the whole 'Barca make players not buy them' nonsense when Barcelona have spent the 3rd-most money in the entire world since 2008, which is when the golden generation of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, Pique and Busquets came to full age.
Did you catch that? During the most successful spell in Barcelona history, with the greatest academy graduation class since the Ajax of the 1970s, Barcelona were STILL only out-spent by City and Madrid.
Wanna see?
Doesn't really matter much to this season's CL (well, aside from the 115m they spent to bring in Suarez, Rakatic, Vermaelen and Ter Stegen, of course), but, since it was brought up...
Oh, and it's funny how the Stoichkov & Romario era was brought up, since it was when Barcelona basically assembled the Dream Team for ridiculous amounts of money!
They were the Chelsea/PSG/City of their day, and so if anyone is bandwagon fans, Barca fans from that era are in the same category. ;)
If Arsenal had not moved to North London in 1910 to leech away local fans, you ALL would be Spurs fans, because we would be the biggest, most successful club in the world... O:)
Barcelona do indeed make players. Well, recently,
Once.
Funnily enough, the next La Masia generation doesn't seem anywhere near as good as the previous one. And it's not like La Masia was anything special at all until Cruyff became manager and was then fired before he could reap the rewards of the youth academy he totally revolutionized.
I really wish people wouldn't try the whole 'Barca make players not buy them' nonsense when Barcelona have spent the 3rd-most money in the entire world since 2008, which is when the golden generation of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, Pique and Busquets came to full age.
Did you catch that? During the most successful spell in Barcelona history, with the greatest academy graduation class since the Ajax of the 1970s, Barcelona were STILL only out-spent by City and Madrid.
Wanna see?
Doesn't really matter much to this season's CL (well, aside from the 115m they spent to bring in Suarez, Rakatic, Vermaelen and Ter Stegen, of course), but, since it was brought up...
Oh, and it's funny how the Stoichkov & Romario era was brought up, since it was when Barcelona basically assembled the Dream Team for ridiculous amounts of money!
They were the Chelsea/PSG/City of their day, and so if any of their fans are plastic, bandwagon, glory-hunting, bandwagon fans, then Barca fans from that era are in the same category. ;)
Oh. The. Irony.
If Arsenal had not moved to North London in 1910 to leech away local fans, you ALL would be Spurs fans, because we would be the biggest, most successful club in the world... O:)
Barcelona do indeed make players.
Well, recently, if not historically.
That one time. The one with Messi, Iniesta, Xavi etc.
Funnily enough, the next La Masia generation doesn't seem anywhere near as good as the previous one. And it's not like La Masia was anything special at all until Cruyff became manager and was then fired before he could reap the rewards of the youth academy he totally revolutionized.
I really wish people wouldn't try the whole 'Barca make players not buy them' nonsense when Barcelona have spent the 3rd-most money in the entire world since 2008, which is when the golden generation of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, Pique and Busquets came to full age.
Did you catch that? During the most successful spell in Barcelona history, with the greatest academy graduation class since the Ajax of the 1970s, Barcelona were STILL only out-spent by City and Madrid.
Wanna see?
Doesn't really matter much to this season's CL (well, aside from the 115m they spent to bring in Suarez, Rakatic, Vermaelen and Ter Stegen, of course), but, since it was brought up...
Oh, and it's funny how the Stoichkov & Romario era was brought up, since it was when Barcelona basically assembled the Dream Team for ridiculous amounts of money!
They were the Chelsea/PSG/City of their day, and so if any of their fans are plastic, bandwagon, glory-hunting, bandwagon fans, then Barca fans from that era are in the same category. ;)
Oh. The. Irony.
If Arsenal had not moved to North London in 1910 to leech away local fans, you ALL would be Spurs fans, because we would be the biggest, most successful club in the world... O:)
Barcelona do indeed make players.
Well, recently, if not historically.
That one time. The one with Messi, Iniesta, Xavi etc.
Funnily enough, the next La Masia generation doesn't seem anywhere near as good as the previous one. And it's not like La Masia was anything special at all until Cruyff became manager and was then fired before he could reap the rewards of the youth academy he totally revolutionized.
I really wish people wouldn't try the whole 'Barca make players not buy them' nonsense when Barcelona have spent the 3rd-most money in the entire world since 2008, which is when the golden generation of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, Pique and Busquets came to full age.
Did you catch that? During the most successful spell in Barcelona history, with the greatest academy graduation class since the Ajax of the 1970s, Barcelona were STILL only out-spent by City and Madrid.
Wanna see?
Doesn't really matter much to this season's CL (well, aside from the 200m they spent over the last 2 years to bring in Suarez, Rakatic, Neymar, Ter Stegen etc, of course), but, since it was brought up...
Oh, and it's funny how the Stoichkov & Romario era was brought up, since it was when Barcelona basically assembled the Dream Team for ridiculous amounts of money!
They were the Chelsea/PSG/City of their day, and so if any of their fans are plastic, bandwagon, glory-hunting, bandwagon fans, then Barca fans from that era are in the same category. ;)
Oh. The. Irony.
rayrex7
10 years ago
Lol the argument is better than this week UCL matches, I literally got more pumped reading this forum than watching Chelsea vs PSG and Bayren vs shaktar
(No disrespect to the respective fans)
tiki_taka
10 years ago
Bellerin, Sergi, Thiago and Rafinha Alcantara, Samper, Adama traore, Munir, Sandro, Tello, Dos Santos Brothers....And the list is long.
The youth talents are still there, but th eintegration to the first team has become quite impossible, due to high level competition, and results obligation + WC players in each position...
Barça is the first feeder club of Spain more than 34 youngster in Spain and Europe came from La Masia, so Barça not benefitting from them doesnt mean that they dont have any quality.
Lets take Spurs case, Kane has time and patience to develop his qualities, but as long as he will be the fineshed world class product, Spurs would struggle too keep him away from big clubs but they will probably get a big pay check.
Each club has his obligations, and the obligation of Barça is to keep being contender in any competition they are in.
Those who are not Barça level like Bojan or Cuenca go to less pressure clubs like Deportivo or Stoke, and few have directly Barça first squad level wich is not shocking, How many youngsters have Neymar or Suarez level ?
Lodatz
10 years ago
Edited
"Bellerin, Sergi, Thiago and Rafinha Alcantara, Samper, Adama traore, Munir, Sandro, Tello, Dos Santos Brothers....And the list is long."
And what a shame then that only one single name on that list is actually impressive. Oh, and even more doubly shameful that Barcelona received a transfer ban for breaking the law.
"The youth talents are still there, but th eintegration to the first team has become quite impossible, due to high level competition, and results obligation + WC players in each position..."
Well, SOME world class players. Jordi Alba, for instance, is not. And that's the point: aside from Messi and Iniesta, all the world class players Barcelona have are players they bought from somewhere else.
Money, money, money.
"Barça is the first feeder club of Spain more than 34 youngster in Spain and Europe came from La Masia, so Barça not benefitting from them doesn't mean that they dont have any quality."
Actually, it kinda does. It means that they were not good enough for the big leagues.
"How many youngsters have Neymar or Suarez level ?"
Not many. But it does make your "we make players not buy them" claim utter and complete bullshit. This is the problem with so many Barca and La Liga fan boys in particular: you have this rose-tinted, unrealistic impression of how your football actually works. In reality, it is propped up by corruption, financial inequality and diving. Whatever quality you might have is undermined by these other things of which you should be ashamed.
"Bellerin, Sergi, Thiago and Rafinha Alcantara, Samper, Adama traore, Munir, Sandro, Tello, Dos Santos Brothers....And the list is long."
And what a shame then that only one single name on that list is actually impressive. Oh, and even more doubly shameful that Barcelona received a transfer ban for breaking the law.
"The youth talents are still there, but th eintegration to the first team has become quite impossible, due to high level competition, and results obligation + WC players in each position..."
Well, SOME world class players. Jordi Alba, for instance, is not. And that's the point: aside from Messi and Iniesta, all the world class players Barcelona have are players they bought from somewhere else.
Money, money, money.
"Barça is the first feeder club of Spain more than 34 youngster in Spain and Europe came from La Masia, so Barça not benefitting from them doesn't mean that they dont have any quality."
Actually, it kinda does. It means that they were not good enough for the big leagues.
"How many youngsters have Neymar or Suarez level ?"
Not many. But it does make your "we make players not buy them" claim utter and complete bullshit. This is the problem with so many Barca and La Liga fan boys in particular: you have this rose-tinted, unrealistic impression of how your football actually works. In reality, it is propped up by corruption, financial inequality and diving. Whatever quality you might have is undermined by these other things of which you should be ashamed.
"Bellerin, Sergi, Thiago and Rafinha Alcantara, Samper, Adama traore, Munir, Sandro, Tello, Dos Santos Brothers....And the list is long."
And what a shame then that only one single name on that list is actually impressive. Oh, and even more doubly shameful that Barcelona received a transfer ban for breaking the law.
"The youth talents are still there, but th eintegration to the first team has become quite impossible, due to high level competition, and results obligation + WC players in each position..."
Well, SOME world class players. Jordi Alba, for instance, is not. And that's the point: aside from Messi and Iniesta, all the world class players Barcelona have are players they bought from somewhere else.
Money, money, money.
"Barça is the first feeder club of Spain more than 34 youngster in Spain and Europe came from La Masia, so Barça not benefitting from them doesn't mean that they dont have any quality."
Actually, it kinda does. It means that they were not good enough for the big leagues.
"How many youngsters have Neymar or Suarez level ?"
Not many. But it does make your "we make players not buy them" claim utter and complete bullshit. This is the problem with so many Barca and La Liga fan boys in particular: you have this rose-tinted, unrealistic impression of how your football actually works. In reality, it is propped up by corruption, financial inequality and diving. Whatever quality you might have is undermined by these other things of which you should be ashamed.
psg 1-1 chelsea
shakhtar donetsk 0-3 bayern
real madrid 4-1 schalke
basel 1-2 fc porto
man city 2-0 barcelona
juventus 1-1 dortmund
leverkusen 0-0 atletico
arsenal 2-0 monaco
at the end i'll see whos done best predictions