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Team to go through:
Wolfsburg
Real Madrid
PSG
Barcelona
Bayern Munich
Atletico
Zenit
Manchester City
What do you think?
Such a disgrace. Arsenal - Barcelona and PSG - Chelsea, again! It's getting boring now, I want to see different matches.
Anyways, the obvious predictions are:
Gent - Wolfsburg
Roma - Real
PSG - Chelsea
Arsenal - Barcelona
Juventus - Bayern
PSV - Atletico
Benfica - Zenit
Kiev - City
Arsenal against Barcelona AGAIN?
PSG vs Chelsea AGAIN?
Definatively getting boring now.. Juve Bayern will be amazing to watch!
Gent - Wolfsburg
Roma - Real
PSG - Chelsea
Arsenal - Barcelona
Juventus - Bayern
PSV - Atletico
Benfica - Zenit
Kiev - City
why is everyone complaining about arsenal vs barcelona and why are they saying arsenal vs barca again???....the last time they met was 4 years ago...........last season it was monaco, before that two season we were paired against bayern munich......so i can understand the complaints if it was arsenal vs bayern(which would never happen), but arsenal vs barca hasn't happened for sometime....and i can understand the complaints about psg and chelsea too...cus they were paired last season
I'm afraid it looks like Messi will be scoring on Cech more than once this time around. He will be provoked for not having scored against Cech yet, like last year with Neuer, and will have his way with Arsenal. Just a feeling.
teams to go through for me
wolfsburg
real
chelsea
arsenal (of course im biased, but if we hav everyone fit we definitely have a good chance)
bayern
atletico
zenit
city
The day we lost first match in the group stage I knew we will get Barcelona.
PSG vs Chelsea again? Cmon..
Same matches may be really tricky, and I hope there will be surprises.
Gent - Wolfsburg
Roma - Real
PSG - Chelsea
Arsenal - Barcelona
Juventus - Bayern
PSV - Atletico
Benfica - Zenit
Kiev - City
Gent - Wolfsburg
Roma - Real
PSG - Chelsea
Arsenal - Barcelona
Juventus - Bayern
PSV - Atletico
Benfica - Zenit
Kiev - City
Same draw three years in a row, seriously...
@quikzyyy Kiev to beat City? interesting..
Chelsea shouldn't have issues beating PSG imo, obviously it's a bit different this season though.
Gent - Wolfsburg
Roma - Real
PSG - Chelsea
Arsenal - Barcelona
Juventus - Bayern
PSV - Atletico
Benfica - Zenit
Kiev - City
Arsenal vs Barcelona???
Gent-Man Utd
Roma-Real
PSG-Chelsea
Arsenal-Barcelona
Juventus-Bayern
PSV-Atletico
Benfica-Zenit
Kiev-City
@juan & @ktf Gotta agree with you guys ...
Say whateever you want but I am not buying into whole random draw crap . They do it somehow I don't know how but they do it . One day we will find out . I trust my gut . Same feeling I had 10 years ago when i started to notice how full of crap UEFA and FIFA are and now they have people being locked up .
@JimBleedsArsenal
The reason they say Arsenal vs. Barcelona getting boring now is probably because of that Arsenal have always got the hardest possible opponent. And its getting boring now. Only Monaco was a good draw for the recent years.
Unlucky Arsenal.
Well if Arsenal was actually good enough to beat one of those teams, we wouldn't be having this discussion. There is literally no difference in going out in the Round of Sixteen or the Quarter-finals, it's not like Arsenal needs the money.
Apparently unpopular opinion:
Getting drawn into a tough group/matchup might not be great for fans, but it's better for the team itself. If Arsenal is going to win the tournament (which to be fair, they have a 1 in 16 chance of doing), they're going to need to beat good teams eventually, and if they can't do it in the Round of Sixteen, why should we expect them to do it at any other point?
Another question:
Teams I think Arsenal would be favourites to beat in this draw:
Kiev
Benfica
Roma
PSV
Gent
Zenit
Otherwise known as a 6/15 potential ratio to be drawn against. Considering two of those teams are playing each other, and probability suggests that could happen about 1/3rd of the time, the ratio for Arsenal to play a team they'd be a favourite against is far below 50%.
The problem here isn't that Arsenal is unlucky, it's that there are too many teams in the draw better than Arsenal.
EDIT:
I made this post way to early in the morning and missed the obvious.
Arsenal finished 2nd, so they could only have been drawn against:
Wolfsburg
Barcelona
Bayern
City
Real Madrid
Zenit
Ath Madrid
Of which they have a 1/8 chance of drawing a team with which they'd be a favourite to beat, and a 3/8 chance where it'd be a matter of opinion.
Well if Arsenal was actually good enough to beat one of those teams, we wouldn't be having this discussion. There is literally no difference in going out in the Round of Sixteen or the Quarter-finals, it's not like Arsenal needs the money.
Apparently unpopular opinion:
Getting drawn into a tough group/matchup might not be great for fans, but it's better for the team itself. If Arsenal is going to win the tournament (which to be fair, they have a 1 in 16 chance of doing), they're going to need to beat good teams eventually, and if they can't do it in the Round of Sixteen, why should we expect them to do it at any other point?
Well if Arsenal was actually good enough to beat one of those teams, we wouldn't be having this discussion. There is literally no difference in going out in the Round of Sixteen or the Quarter-finals, it's not like Arsenal needs the money.
Apparently unpopular opinion:
Getting drawn into a tough group/matchup might not be great for fans, but it's better for the team itself. If Arsenal is going to win the tournament (which to be fair, they have a 1 in 16 chance of doing), they're going to need to beat good teams eventually, and if they can't do it in the Round of Sixteen, why should we expect them to do it at any other point?
Another question:
Teams I think Arsenal would be favourites to beat in this draw:
Kiev
Benfica
Roma
PSV
Gent
Zenit
Otherwise known as a 6/15 potential ratio to be drawn against. Considering two of those teams are playing each other, and probability suggests that could happen about 1/3rd of the time, the ratio for Arsenal to play a team they'd be a favourite against is far below 50%.
The problem here isn't that Arsenal is unlucky, it's that there are too many teams in the draw better than Arsenal.
If you want to be the champion you have to be able to beat the other teams, especially last year's champion.
@raimondo
That is a poor thing to say . This is CL . Arsenal are half injured team . Hopefully by that time they will have a full squad . Barcelona rode on the lack last year that PSG , Bayern and even Juventus did not have full fit squad . That does not take anything from their victory but that is how it is in CL . It is not just performance . You need a little bit of luck .
Arsenal can beat good team and can beat them in style when they have FULL FIT SQUAD . Yeah i am chelsea fan and will put few good words for them . Playing Barcelona in late winter is not a good time because that is exactly when domestic league and cups get very heated . Crucial time for title contenders . Playing Barcelona in 1/8 then that is another situation much better for Arsenal .
Barcelona does not have jack sht to do late in winter . They will be coming back well rested and fresh.
Arsenal can beat good team and can beat them in style when they have FULL FIT SQUAD . Yeah i am chelsea fan and will put few good words for them . Playing Barcelona in late winter is not a good time because that is exactly when domestic league and cups get very heated . Crucial time for title contenders . Playing Barcelona in 1/8 than that is another situation much better for Arsenal .
Barcelona does not have jack sht to do late in winter . They will be coming back well rested and fresh.