Real Madrid are playing Atletico at the Calderon this weekend. As we all know, Madrid suffered multiple losses against Sevilla today (Which I couldn't be more pissed about) James & Ramos are 99% sure to miss the derby vs Atletico. Marcelo got a yellow card (Which he didn't deserve as he didn't even touch the Sevilla player) which bans him from playing the derby vs Atleti, but Real Madrid could appeal and get the yellow taken off as it was just a ridiculous decision from the ref. The only good news for Real is that Ronaldo will come back, but without some of our key players, it will still be hard. Bale is not on good form, Benzema is the type of player that can have an amazing game, or disappear completely. (lets hope he has an amazing game) and with James off, things will be complicated in attack for Real, specially considering Atletico LOVE, I repeat, LOVE, let me say that again just to make it clear, LOVE to park the bus. With Pepe injured and in doubt for the derby, the only options for center backs are Nacho and Varane, they are young and good, specially Varane, but Nacho is not mature enough and could make a few mistakes, he was very good vs Sevilla, but as you can see in Sevilla's goal, he doesn't have the best positioning and is prone to making a few mistakes. I have faith in our defense, but obviously they aren't having the best time, and with our best CB's injured, I dont see things going too smoothly for Real Madrid defensive-wise.

I sadly predict a 2-0 or 2-1 win for Atletico. I do indeed have faith in my team and have hopes they will pull off the win, because it is crucial for us at this point of the league, but with these many players suspended or injured, it is very difficult to beat Atleti. I pray that Atletico wont play as dirty as they usually do and wont injure any of our players. What are your thoughts for the derby and score predictions?

Why do you love to turn everything into a Real vs Barca argument? You love to put Madrid down for everything... I've never heard you say one good thing about them... Madrid DID want Suarez btw, but they retracted after the bite incident with Chiellini, Madrid was also interested in Neymar, but after Bale's stunning season in the BPL, they ended up buying him... You can't just say Madrid bids on players to raise their price, that is single handedly one of the most absured comments I have ever heard... In your mind, if Barca shows interest for a player, then no one else can? I will add as well, that Madrid showed interest for Neymar, Suarez, and Rakitic long before Barca did... Remember after the WC? After Madrid was in talks to buying James and Kroos, Barca made last minute efforst to signing them both... No point even brining what you said up Tiki... This post doesn't have anything to do with that, and nor did anyone bring up a Barca - Real argument in this... Please lets not start up any arguments...

@Tuann Shpalmann okay guys.

Griezmann easy MOTM for me. :)

Atleti were completely better, the problem is that Madrid has never played against a team with tactics, thats why we always have difficulties, in fact i am more afraid playing against atleti, than bayren chelsea or barca, honestly, this is like rock paper scissors, barca can play easily against atleti because atleti arent strong against teams with tiki taka, R.Madrid arent strong against teams that play high pressure and solid defending and especially crosses, whenever atleti get a cross, its wheather a goal or on target, Barca arent strong against counter-attacking teams like bayren and real,

You see its not about teams, its all tactics. Even though i predict a loss, due to our missing key players, I didnt expect a loss with that scoreline!

Atleti>Real>Barca>Atleti sums everything up ATM

All of atleti players were outstanding.

Real madrid players werent even trying after the first goal.

Kroos, isco and carvajal were our best players (comparing to the rest of our team)

our attack was utter shit period.

The reason why James was important cause he has pace, speed and shooting ability, that helps reducing the marking at bale and ronaldo to cover up james giving a more space for Ronaldo, its not that ronaldo cant play against atleti (he played amazing during the prervious matches) its that he has more defenders on his tail (one of the best defending teams in the world). Bale needs to dribble more than running, Benzema can play better, but today aint his day.

Modric, Ramos, Pepe, Marcelo, James are all key players and our best and are missing, how do u expect nacho and coentrao to stop griezmann, turan and manduzic. even varane cant.

You cant rely on single players (unless you're Zidane) to win against teams like Atleti, its common sense.

Its more like Barça > Atleti > Real, we witnessed only one clasico in a period where we lost to PSG and saw Suarez playing for the first time, you can say this if Madrid wins in Camp Nou...

At the difference, Barça defeated Atleti on regular basis home and away and so Ateltico Vs Madrid.

Not very surprising defeat for Madrid against their nemesis at the end.

Well, tiki I believe I did say atm first, plus let's all admit, barcelona aren't a strong side against counter-attacking teams, plus if ur saying that I should prove by winning streak in camp nou, than, atleti should prove to be better by beating our first squad team( Our main squad) and win, than that's domination

They did it and at Bernabeu 0-1, with Modric, James, Kroos, Ramos, Pepe and the BBC on the pitch.

Bale didn't play El Clasico. And if Real play their best game, and counter attack perfectly, they can beat Barca at home... Lets just hope Ramos makes it to El Clasico, because these injuries are tearing apart our season...

I'm not a fan of both teams (Real or Barca) but I honestly think Real is better than barca atm. you can't just judge a team by a bad game. I'm not a fan of Ronaldo either. I guess he's been emotionally suffering from match ban.

Well, if I must have to pick a team for this year for La liga, I would pick Real.

@tiki, I remembered but ronaldo played like 15 minutes, coming back from injury- plus on that match, we played better Mandzuic, just paid the price for our defensive mistakes, nevertheless that team would have 1:1 ratio against atleti, but the team now isn't even strong against levante

The spanish comentators pointed it out perfectly why Atletico won. The speed in which Atletico recovered shape after loosing the ball was impressive. They put 2 or 3 men pressure on players and then recovered instantly. Shutting down the side of the field were the ball was and in the event the ball switched sides the enitre team shifted flawlessly. Real was uncomfortable most of the game. The entire team contributed to defending without parking the bus and transitioned really well to attack throught the wings using the wing backs to put even more pressure on Reals defence. Carlo was clearly out classed by Simeone in terms of tactics. Also this game could have ended 6-0 had Greizmann's goal counted since he was on the line and not offsides, and the blatan Kehdira handball (which he acted like it hit him in the face). Atletico made Real dissappear, simple as that. Pepe, Ramos, James and Marcelo wouldn't have changed the fact Atletico won, maybe just by lesser difference in scoreline.

Real had 9 World Class players on the field . Enough with excuses . Those were all star players considered as one of the top players in Europe . To concede 4 goals and make few shots on target is inexcusable .

Little off topic . Chelsea even booked the flight for Neymar only in last moments for him to change his mind which was influeced by likes of Pele ( others ) , Santos , dad and agent . Later which resulted IMo in of the biggest scam transfers which is still being investigated with charges of tax fraud .

Atletico winning just shows why they are kryptonite of Real Madrid .

Marcus no one is making excuses, but having Coentrao and Nacho in defense isn't helpful against a team like Atletico, Coentrao could barely keep up with Juanfran, 3 goals were crosses from his wing, Nacho isn't good enough. Our midfield was lost without James or even Modric. Not making excuses, but saying that our missing players didn't affect the scoreline would be ludicrous.

First of all, it's not about world class or not it's about players abilities, Di maria and marcelo were always perfect against atleti, contrao and khedira slow down the teams pace, it's not excuses it's just wrong tactics with today, I assume every football fan say this after their loss, it's perfectly normal

I admit defeat, but I'm just saying the next time we play I hope ancelloti fix these mistakes and pray we win

Atletico were outstanding today, but aside from that we have to focus on Barcelona next. We most likely won't face Atletico anymore unless it's in the Champions League, but that problem will come later. For now, we must focus on slaughtering Barcelona at the Camp Nou and beating all the other teams we should beat.

Ofcourse it affected game , but loose 4-0 making 3 shots whole game and non on target ?

Im more worried about tomorrow game in San Mames than hosting Real at Camp Nou, MSN would take their revenge later, Barça arent weak in set pieces anymore and Atleti tasted it.
But some stadiums in Spain are always complicated for Barça, San Mames is part of them.

Marcus, you have to remember Ancelotti LOVES his starting 11, and barely rotates the team giving the subs big chances. When something like this happens where 5 of our best players are out, and he has to make a completely different team, things go wrong because there is no chemistry, apart from less talent... The players don't understand each other that well. Atletico played with their best 11, apart from Koke who was subbed off by Saul, who ended up being one of Atletico's best players... About the shots, its hard with out James and Modric to play make. Khedira isn't good anymore, its a fact we must admit, that leaves all defensive and attacking work for Kroos and Isco. BBC isn't in good form lately. Without our #10, our players attackers feel lost, specially with a 10 man defending Atletico. Everything that could possibly go wrong went wrong. Iker not in good form, shameful defending, and as usual Atletico defending wonderfully, and with our attack in shambles, there was not much they could do against Atletico's wall.

I'm worried a bit because I'm seeing that both our attack and defense is weak and a possible lack of motivation.

It's Ancelotti's fault for not rotating the team enough. It's something I'm sure he'll notice and fix soon, so I'm not all that concerned about it. I trust Carlito.