I don't know what to say, after the athletic match, I was speechless. Isco aside the whole team was terrible the whole year, Ancellotti keeps saying he is going to fix things, and still no reply. After the madrid derby, i thought things might change, but no shit happened. The 4-3-3 needs to stop. We need stop with all the crossing and possession style, we are only a threat at attacking and counter-attacks.

Out of form:-

Ronaldo: He lost his hunger and motivation after the club world cup, hate to say it, but selfish ronaldo is 10X better than now.

Bale: idk, one game he is amazing the second off the drain, yes, he starts to dribble more but hasn't made a huge impact in most games, hope he gets his form back.

Benzema: i feel like benzema only plays excellent when it comes to Barcelona, other than barca, he is just a typical normal striker, he has a weak finish, doesn't shoot a lot and barely dribbles, we need him to at least start to come back to the middle of the pitch to create counter-attacks

Kroos: He hasnt been in form nowadays, still better than bbc but we need his vision, hope modric comes back asap to keep kroos alive

In-form:-

Isco: the lad is just amazing, he has done way more than bbc in almost all the 2015 matches.

Varane: a solid rock at the back, he isn't the best young defender, he is one of the best defenders.

the other players haven't changed much but didn't go off-form at least.

I feel 4-4-2 is our option when modric and james aren't around, we will have a better defence and midfield.

GK: Casillas/Navas

Def: Carvajal----Varane----Pepe------Marcelo

Mid: Bale--Kroos---lucas---isco

Att: Benzema--Ronaldo

we i'd like to hear your thoughts and opinions of this, hope the best for madrid in the up-coming matches.

Hala Madrid!

I think sacking Carlo would be a huge mistake, maybe you're right about him not being amazing in long campaigns, but I don't think he's to blame for. The squad isn't big enough, specially for substitutions and with the injuries that hit the club at the start of the year, not much he can do when Jese, Chicharito, and Lucas Silva are your "impact" subs. Without these injuries, I'm 100% sure that that Madrid wouldn't be suffering as they are now.

Grande Valencia 1-1 :) 5 minutes to play...

Who else is to blame for it ? Did not Madrid came third last year ? Now , this year after reinforcements came in summer team is in danger of missing out on La Liga title once again .

It is pretty clear if Real misses out on two major titles , La Liga or CL , Madrid fans ( Ofcourse I mean majority ) will turn against him very quickly and pressure Perez to sack him .

I personally think this is his final year. It is so similar to one he had with Chelsea back in EPL times . Abramovich assured him of support , fans had his back but then quickly our boss got rid of him after exit out of the CL , EPL failure, failure to keep Ray Wilkins , misfiring luxury striker and too many defeats . And that was cruel considering that he won double in a year before . Perez , I am sure already has someone lined up for the job .

@Marcus

"Perez , I am sure already has someone lined up for the job ."

• I doubt it. Who can replace Ancelotti? Mourinho and Guardiola will never leave their clubs or come to Madrid. Simeone would rather go to Hell than come manage Real. I can only see Klopp as a possibility, and he is as prone to mistakes as any manager. There aren't any 'upgrades' over Ancelotti available in the market.

Mourinho and Guardiola will never leave their clubs or come to Madrid.

Actually, Mourinho and Guardiola would rather go to hell than come to manage Real also .

I suggest take a Sam Allardyce . :D

Here is one interesting successor : Zinedine Zidane . He may turn out to be like Guardiola .

In all honesty not many want to manage a club where even when things are going good , fans , marca and president or ex presidents will still find something to complain about .

P.S. Paul Clement , also , but I rumors say he wants to go back to England .

Your biggest lost is Modric... no Modric no party... the rotation is issue is really huge too... but with Modric the problem would be much less.

I don't think Carlo Ancellotti is the main problem, his only mistake was that he didn't give more playing time to the subs, he didn't think about the injury list he had coming in. Other than that he is actually a great coach. The players are to blame, Ronaldo mainly. He is our ace player and should act as it. He shouldnt take free-kicks and give kroos and bale more shots. He needs to improve his dribbling and FKs. When ronaldo is on fire the whole team rises. I miss the -2013 ronaldo those years he was a huge threat to any team in both aspects, Dribbling and goal-scoring. however i for one think that he needs to be subbed more than giving him 90 minutes. 70 max is enough. He will be dangerous knowing that he is going to get subbed.

Bale is actually doing fine but needs to open up to his teammates more.

Chica is dangerous when the ball is in the air; from headers to volleys this guy is actually an excellent replacement, we dont need aguero or kane.

I just hope tomorrow they repays for their horrible matches.

Plus dont forget, when it comes to UCL and classicos, Real madrid is a whole new team.

Calm down guys. I hate it when everyone panics in this site -_-''. Every club has ups and downs and you cant go up without going down. I still believe we can win La Liga even though we lost against Bilbao it doesnt mean nothing. Isco, Casillas and Marcelo atm the only ones in-form. Did you see Varane vs Bilbao? He was crap. Thats why we need Ramos. Ramos is like the heart of Madrid he keeps us alive he is our wall. Id rather have Ramos instead of anyone.

@rayrex

What is it now ? 54 freekicks and still no goal ? Pretty long time for someone who takes freekicks for Real

@rayrex

Exactly why it is Ancelotti's fault ! He should have more balls to drop anyone who is not performing . For example , drop that premadonna Ronaldo from freekicks , he can't take them ! When was last time Real scored from freekick and was it Ronaldo ? I think I heard it was his 54 missed freekick in a row !!!

Ancelotti , needs to do hairdrying to those players who think they can slack around. This is Just one of the issues other than his tactics and match to match management .

I think the fact Bale is pushing for FK spot is affecting him, it can happen if a player isnt at 100%, however i agree if he doesnt feel confident he should let Bale shoot, Benz is very good too at close FKs...

The one vs Schalke was well shooted, sometimes you score an average FK because the GK was bad, and sometimes the GK makes the perfect save despite shooting a perfect FK...

Lately, he is Dr Jekyls at times,

And Mister Hyde...

@Marcus

I see your point, and I actually agree. Carlo needs to be more strict. Not just carlo but all the coaches, especially with their ace player. For example kroos needs to take freekicks from the right bale from the left. Ronaldo needs to see and feel the competition between them. Just like messi, When neymar and Suarez are on form, Messi gets in his alien form, but it in Madrid Ronaldo doest have any competiton, benzema as well. Trust me when luka comes back bale wouldn't even breathe he is gonna fight for his place against in form isco.

You might be right too tiki, Ronaldo lost his confidence, like in United he scored freekicks like penalties, now he is probably no better than casillas in freekicks,

Real madrid had Zidane , Beckham , Figo playing in the same team once . All of them were excellent freekick takers . They manage it back then so why now is not manageable .

Harsh on Carlo, very Harsh... If he takes the road you are suggesting, he will explode the dressing room like Mou did in his last year.
You can do this only as a short term coach, if you want long term diplomacy with big stars is needed.

Mou in Chelsea is a bit different, Mou is on the heart of the fans more than any player and players know it, in Madrid Madridistas would change coach or president to keep some beloved players and players know it too.

Its more about who has the vox populi, in PSG its even worst for Laurent Blanc as key players can knock on the president office at any time without any word of the coach...

Carlo is the man of the situation, if Madrid played that beatiful and were that strong its mainly due to him, i think Zidane presence was essential last year for the egos reason.

Ronaldo should have saved juice for the rest of the year while he was obssessed by BO, nobody said it, he is short physically when it mattered most, Perez taking key players and bringing new ones and getting involved in some of the coach buisness, causing him a little discredit....

But relax, issues like these are mainstream in any big culb, we only talk about it when things arent going well, big disrepect to Carlo here...

I wish he was Barça coach for instance.

The man is quiet so people forget that he has the biggest palmares coach of the actual managers, count how much CL he won and success followed him were he went...

@marcus Ask Ronaldo more than Carlo, because he surely doesnt wanna share, Carlo is no fool...

Not going to be dragged into different topic .

No one is bigger than a club . That is the traditions of English football . Everything for the club . If the star player is not performing and it is hurting the team than he will be dropped and all the fans will support it . Simple. That is why we agree with manager often , because manager has clubs backing and has fans backing him . Only ones that are against the managers decisions and constantly throwing criticism are media . Media always happy to bash .

We had sort of Real Marid model after Jose left in 2007 . Like dealing with Torres and Shevchenko and we had our ups and downs with them . Owner wanted them to play and fans did not . Sometimes they pulled something amazing and sometimes they would let the team down big time . That is where manager with strong character comes who can identify when star player will shine the brightest and when he will actually hurt team .

Ancelotti should not drop Ronaldo from playing . He should drop him from taking freekicks or from taking it in certain positions of the ball . So many wasted freekicks ! It is incredible .

I don't think ronaldo would disagree in letting someone else take a freekick such as ramos or kroos, Cause he has already given bale the whole left area, maybe because no one asked or have given such an idea, but maybe I'm wrong and ronaldo is way to stubborn, anuvase hope he improves in his freekicks which will be a great weapon in tough matches

Agreed with Marcus. Ronaldo overestimates his importance to the team. I don't know whether he feels responsible for taking free-kicks or if he feels confident in his FK ability... the fact is that he isn't a good FK taker anymore. He was one of the best while at Man United, but no longer. Kroos and Bale are 10x more dangerous.

PS. Fun fact. Ronaldo scores a goal from every 15.6 free-kicks in La Liga. Messi scores from every 14.0. Not much difference, haha. Bale's average is much better at around 9 or 10 attempts (better than Pirlo's average in Serie A).

Its more about confidence and periods, sometimes you shoot from any distance its in, sometimes you will try as hard as you can you would still miss...

Another fun facts from the polls that were taking by Real fans :

"92.1 per cent of fans called for Carlo Ancelotti to ditch his current tactics and revert to a 4-4-2 formation"

"Cristiano Ronaldo would be dropped by 32.2 per cent of Real Madrid fans, according to a poll in AS"

"1st: Gareth Bale - 46.1 per cent

2nd: Cristiano Ronaldo - 32.2 per cent

3rd: Karim Benzema - 21.7 per cent "

"Gareth Bale is the least popular of Madrid's front three and nearly half the fans asked would bench him"

Ronaldo is no longer the most harderst working player . " Karim Benzema claims he is the 'first one to arrive and the last to leave' the Real Madrid training ground"

"AS also reveal that since Christmas, the average goals-per-game ratio for Real Madrid has dropped from 2.6 to 1.3 - exactly half the amount they scored in the first half of the season. "

Madrid fans quickly forgot about 20 game winning streak that was hailed so much . Honestly without any intent to insult , I can't disagree with them, it was not that much impressive .