Today at school I was fantasizing about the idea of 11 Ronaldos playing agianst 11 Messis. It would be pretty interesting to see. As much as I like messi, i would go with ronaldo because he is more athletic and complete. He will be able to play in more positions than messi.IDK. My brain just explodes at the thought of something like this.
Any thoughts?

What makes you think that your opinions is superior to mine? You have to resort to insulting me, suggesting I'm smoking something, just because I have a different opinion from the majority. Is this the only way you guys know how to have a debate? Sometimes I wonder what the age group is in here. It's like I'm dealing with children in a kindergarten who cannot get a coherent point across without resorting to petty insults. How hard is it to get some info on Messi's 100m time vs cr7 100 time? Then you can correct me and we can move on to the next topic like mature adults. If not, stop wasting my time.

Wolfie, people are probably not debating properly about this discussion because there is no point in arguing about something like this. Messi has never been and would never be as fast or as good head player as Ronaldo.

A debate can be productive when two different opinions make some sense and have a point in discussing them.

You are the one that seems like a kindergarten child when talking about Ronaldo.

If you want stats they go look for them yourself, you are the one with the unpopular opinion saying the opposite of everyone else.

Whenever I search for Messi's 100m time Ronaldo's 100m time shows up...

@wolfie it's because it would take me a long time to have you change your mind. And my time is valuable. Though to say that ronaldo is not a good header of the ball you'd have to have slept the last 10 years.

here are some goals from him if you want to catch up

PS : no need to get upset I'm talking and typing in the most lighthearted way possible

PPS : tuanis was faster than me it seems

Ronaldo is not more "complete", he is just taller with a better header on the ball. Messi is a better team player and better passer, and incorporates his entire team with mesmerizing 1-2 touch plays. Imagine 11 Messi's just passing the ball around these helpless Ronaldos. The only tactic the Ronaldo team would have is to cross and head the ball like Moyes' Manchester United 82 crosses the other day. You need at least 3 players to cover Messi, Ronaldo doesn't receive the same amount of defensive attention from teams as Messi. Team Messi would be killing team Ronaldo with mesmerizing through balls all over the pitch. I'm sorry guys but I don't think team Ronaldo would stand a chance.

82 cross would result in 82 goals though. And on the break poor center back messi would crap his pants at 10 ronaldos running at him at full speed while the 8 other messis casually walk back into position. The game would be very even in my opinion.

@King Henry

I disagree. Ronaldo is not much of a defensive player and neither is Messi. But surely the best player in history would be able to triumph over team Ronaldo. If your argument was true then Real Madrid and any other team would always beat Barca since our center back's are 5'10 and our full backs are 5'7 and the Madrid forwards are all over 6 feet. Messi only walks back casually into position because the coach requires him to keep his energy, or else he can defend just as well as Ronaldo. Team messi, just like Barca, would be a pressing team and a bunch of Ronaldo's can not handle all the defensive pressing since Ronaldo is not a great passer.

@Tdot2barca

"Ronaldo is not a great passer".

He is an amazing passer. His vision is sublime as well. Granted, he is not as good as Messi at either, but I think what you meant to say was that "Ronaldo doesn't utilize his passing skills nearly as much as Messi. Therefore, Messi is the better team-player by far."

@Tuanis - People are not debating properly because they don't have a single original thought in their heads. They just feel safer in numbers. Anyone else who has a different opinion is a "troll" "stupid" "smoking something." You guys need to look in the mirror and see who the real trolls are around here.
A debate can be productive when both sides act maturely doesn't matter what the opinions are. Something called respect is missing. Respect for other peoples opinions. You as a mod should know this. Unless you have forgotten what it is you are meant to do around here.
Oh, I'm the kindergarten child because I don't share the same opinions as everyone in this thread. Yeah, excellent logic there. Give yourself a round of applause.
@King- I never said cr7 is not a good header of the ball. I said Messi is better at it than him. Maybe it is you who has been asleep. I am not upset. People need to realise that not everyone in this forum has the same opinion. Unless we're all clones.
Messi does a much better job at defending than cr7.

Superior heading technic. Doesn't get a lot of opportunities because of his small stature. Nonetheless, he heads it more accurately.

His passing is light years ahead of cr7.

Speed is debatable. Since there are no records of there 100 sprint being recorded. One can only estimate. Cr7 looks faster because of the way he flaps he hands.
In the end and purpose of this thread. 11 Messi's would completely and utterly annihilate 11 cr7's.

@wolfie if you play football you will realize even if you have great technique in heading you have to have strength jumping ability. When messi heads, as you said, he has good technique but he has to get lucky to win a header. I also do not think many people are taking the physical aspect of a game like this into hands, Ronnie's 6'1 and messi is 5'7

@ Dyn

If you don't ever use it then you don't have it. Simple. He is a great passer compared to the average footballer but Ronaldo's passing is no where near as good as Messi's. Messi makes world class through balls to create opportunities for his team mates every game, Ronaldo can't do that. Messi is a much more intelligent player than Ronaldo.

My prediction :

• 95 per cent of possession for Messi team.
• 4 red cards for Ronaldo team ^^.
  No need to warm up guys, we are not talking about reality.

I think the header point is irrelevant, he wont have time to cross. I also think Messi heading abilities are good.

From yesterday game :

30 minutes of magic :).

@Tdot

Agreed. Except he does use his passing skills. I'll show you a video on some of his extraordinary ones if I can find them.

I agree with @Tdot's 1st comment and to some extent with @Wolfie: I would put my money on Messi XI as I think CR7 would simply never get the ball of them (unless he fouled them).

Now you're saying "Superior heading technic. Doesn't get a lot of opportunities because of his small stature. "
Before you said "Messi is a much better header of a ball than cr7"

am i the wholly one here who thinks this is kinda stupid..

i don't think it should be 11 Mess's vs 11 Ronaldo's
imagine messi in net..
it should be more like 10 Mess's vs 10 Ronaldo's and have the same keeper in net like Casillas

this one is hard to call because Messi can control the mid and forward while Ronaldo only forward but his height would give him an advantage and also his jumping abilities).

Superior heading technic and much better header of a ball is essentially saying the same thing, Einstein. When Messi get's the opportunity for a header , it is more accurate and technically superior. Also, not sure what the purpose is of that image. Just shows Cristiano jumping. With your logic an Olympic high jumper would be a World class header of a ball.
If you're trying to wind me up, it's not working. Try harder.

I wish I could jump like Ronaldo... the guy FLIES.

Anyone know what is 100m time is?

@Tdot

He ran 96 m in 10 seconds. But that was with a very slow start. I'm guessing his 100 m time would be around 9.8 - 10.2 seconds.

@wolfie the point is he can jump higher than average pro Basketball player from NBA .

What is the point of having a possession if you can take a shot long range shots or get the best of it. 11 Ronaldos will bombard goalie , send many long balls into box for headers , long range shots and incredible pace will be terrorizing 11 Messi on the break with fast and furious counterattacks . Ronaldo is extremely hard working player who has defensive duties , he will chase every ball that is near by and push Messi 11 for errors.

I think it is clear Ronaldo is favorite .

He is comming back slowly !