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FSV_support 3 months ago
Mainz 05, Germany 0 30
(1/2) I will try my best to explain it: the root - as you call it - lies indeed in the nature of clubs like Hoffenheim or RB Leipzig who make their way up to the top leagues almost sole with the money of big investors. Most German fans (and especially the Ultra-scene) are opposed to that and want to preserve the traditional football-culture. Hence, ultras repeatedly protested against Hoffenheim and Hopp as their patron with banners etc. The DFB sanctioned this behaviour with collective punishments such as the exclusion of away fans at games in Hoffenheim. After the fans again protested against these collective sanctions the DFB gave a concession that in the future the responsible individuals should be held accountable instead of the whole fan-scene of the club.
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FSV_support 3 months ago
Mainz 05, Germany 0 30
(2/2) Still, after recent banners from Dortmund fans against Hopp the DFB again banned fans from Dortmund for the next two games in Hoffenheim. Since the DFB kind of broke their word the fans were outraged as it seems. The ultra-scenes of different clubs joined together and made a pact to strongly call them out on it. Therefore, the fans are quite hostile towards Hoffenheim and the DFB right now. So actually the protest is more directed towards the DFB and Hopp is only targeted to make a point in my opinion.
I hope that answers your question and I hope that I got everything right. Just want to add that this doesn't represent my personal views.
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MiaSanHugo 3 months ago
Bayern Munich, Germany 0 50
Hoffenheim were the worst I've ever seen... I'm actually fuming at our fans, we could've got a record double digit win if they just settled down and focused on the game.
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SheenaTL 3 months ago
Barcelona, France 0 551
Bayern team = class in several ways. Some of their fans, not so much. After a great week in UCL and up 6:0 away, this was very classless regardless of the merits of the complaints against Hoffenheim's money-driven sudden rise to the Bundesliga. Next time, maybe their fans will just cheer them on to score more goals (at that rate could have seen another 2-3 considering how porous Hoffenheim were in defense) instead of enjoying 15 minutes of passing in midfield.
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xumeey 3 months ago
Liverpool 0 1214
So what's the deal between the owner and the ultras?
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xumeey 3 months ago Edited
Liverpool 0 1214
Bayern ultras saving Hoffenheim. Even Oliver Kahn couldn't stop the ultras. The more this game went the weirder it got. I have never seen anything like this before.
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Bayern ultras saving Hoffenheim. Even Oliver Kahn couldn't stop the ultras.
HaXXspetten 3 months ago Edited
Sweden 0 773
Well that was a slaughter... but man this is some of the weirdest drama I've seen in a while. What's the full story behind this anyway? I got that the fans were protesting against Hoffenheim's owner and that the players then decided to do this as a counter-protest to the actions (game was well over anyway) but what's the root of all this? The 50+1 rule again?
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Well that was a slaughter
Well that was a slaughter... but man this is some of the weirdest drama I've seen in a while. What's the full story behind this anyway? I got that the fans were protesting against Hoffenheim's owner and that the players then decided to do this as a counter-protest to the actions (game was well over anyway) but what's the root of all this?
xumeey 3 months ago
Liverpool 0 1214
I'm wondering the same thing. Did the guy kill babies or something?
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HaXXspetten 3 months ago
Sweden 0 773
All I can think of is the 50+1 rule that Germany has always had where basically Hoffenheim and Leipzig are the only teams brought up by a lot of sudden investment which the rest of the league doesn't like, but this still seems rather spontaneous and excessive. Also not exactly news so why protest like this now all of a sudden
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TempomNN 3 months ago
Real Madrid, France 0 307
From what I've read, it's a hate towards Hoffenheim's owner, but what's the deal in Germany? Why they hate Leipzig and Hoffenheim this much? Any germans can explain?
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xumeey 3 months ago Edited
Liverpool 0 1214
I don't follow much of German football so this was very confusing to me. Players, coaches, execs and even legends were pleading with the fans to stop yet nothing worked. It must be a serious situation for the game to be interrupted like that.
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I don't follow much of German football so this was very confusing to me. Players, coaches, owners and even legends were pleading with the fans to stop yet nothing worked. It must be a serious situation for the game to be suspended like that.
I don't follow much of German football so this was very confusing to me. Players, coaches, execs and even legends were pleading with the fans to stop yet nothing worked. It must be a serious situation for the game to be suspended like that.
HaXXspetten 3 months ago
Sweden 0 773
@TempomNN, basically in Germany there's a rule that says that club members must own more than half the shares of the club. No one person should ever be allowed to control more than 50% by himself, such as a major investor could. But Hoffenheim (and RB Leipzig) have been skirting that line quite finely and done whatever they could to invest without technically breaking that rule, and consequently fans of the other Bundesliga clubs aren't too happy about it. That's about all I know
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CharlesTheRipper 3 months ago
Manchester United, Canada 0 18
Though the 50+1 rule is great, it essentially ensures that the top teams will always be on top and that is problematic. These fans are not out here protesting when Bayern grab players from other top teams and weaken them, but when their dominance is threatened they start crying.
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Glorymanunited 3 months ago
Manchester United, USA 0 166
@CharlesTheRipper 50+1 rule is very important in german football and its not about dominace, its much more important than that. This is not EPL where rich arabian prince can jus invest billion of dollars to a club with no history then BOOM you got chelsea, manchester city.You may hate bayern because they dominating bundesliga but they aint oil money club.
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CharlesTheRipper 3 months ago
Manchester United, Canada 0 18
@Glorymanunited I acknowledged that the rule is great, but you can't deny it has resulted in Bayern staying at the top, in recent history the only other team to properly challenge them was Klopps Dortmund. The rule should not be changed but it clearly favors the the top team.
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FSV_support 3 months ago
Mainz 05, Germany 0 30
(1/2) I will try my best to explain it: the root - as you call it - lies indeed in the nature of clubs like Hoffenheim or RB Leipzig who make their way up to the top leagues almost sole with the money of big investors. Most German fans (and especially the Ultra-scene) are opposed to that and want to preserve the traditional football-culture. Hence, ultras repeatedly protested against Hoffenheim and Hopp as their patron with banners etc. The DFB sanctioned this behaviour with collective punishments such as the exclusion of away fans at games in Hoffenheim. After the fans again protested against these collective sanctions the DFB gave a concession that in the future the responsible individuals should be held accountable instead of the whole fan-scene of the club.
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FSV_support 3 months ago
Mainz 05, Germany 0 30
(2/2) Still, after recent banners from Dortmund fans against Hopp the DFB again banned fans from Dortmund for the next two games in Hoffenheim. Since the DFB kind of broke their word the fans were outraged as it seems. The ultra-scenes of different clubs joined together and made a pact to strongly call them out on it. Therefore, the fans are quite hostile towards Hoffenheim and the DFB right now. So actually the protest is more directed towards the DFB and Hopp is only targeted to make a point in my opinion.
I hope that answers your question and I hope that I got everything right. Just want to add that this doesn't represent my personal views.
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xumeey 3 months ago
Liverpool 0 1214
@FSV_support
Thanks for the explanation.
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