Bayern Munich

APEN

3 : 4

vs

HT 1 : 0

FT 1 : 1

PEN 2 : 3

Arsenal

While napoli can't even revenge juve or Roma in friendly LMAO

And referee against arsenal in second leg was awful but hey everyone is ignorant

ēlneny is off to Leicester city

WIthout de gea you lot will finish 10th every season ( butthurt incoming )

ANd we weren't cheated on when lewa dived in the second leg last season? And we got red card?

@tribal: Cheated is a word we use when we lose 1-0 or something like that; not when we get thrashed 5-1 home and away. Go hide somewhere.

We were winning 1-0 when it happened so yes it was cheating dipshit

You still conceded five and even if we didn't score those 5, Arsenal wouldn't manager to score another goal especially not 4 ;)

That's not the point. If lewa did not dive we would've had 11 vs 11 and would've ended the game at a respectable score but people are too ignorant to realise that since it's Arsenal it was against

Yep that's point. If you ended game 11v11 there wouldn't be wenger out brigade or nothing, it's obvious you wanted to 'respectably' end the game rather than winning it.

There were Wenger protests even before the 2 games so your point is irrelevant

Yep, and it's clearly important when it started, your point is you would be happy by ending the game 11v11 and meanwhile all of your fans are wenger out for months.

What has the Bayern vs Arsenal game have to do with Wenger protests stupidfucktard

You shouldn't blame Bayern for that, everybody knows Bernat is most unqualified person to play football at Bayern. Also we gonna ignore all the tackles Arsenal's players made? And perfectly clean disallowed goal for Tolisso?

it's still a dive but the referee should have done better :D. well it's still a pre season so the scoreline doesn't matter imo.. i'm more worried about some players performances, it looked like there was 40 degree sometimes and players absolutely overheated

Agree tho. Referees were quite bad especially on yellows and offsides. Also I can't stand putting Nelson in and then making him RB...

that was very weird, hopefully you won't smash us anymore this season :D

Doesn't mean so, I mean whole defence was out of place except maybe Bielik and Kolasinac. Also you can't really expect something sublime defensively from out-of-place academy player Maitland-Niles is.

@Croatian 1) I feel it is a tactical issue. Wenger is unable to change his tactics to suit the opposition. When Bayern get the ball you can see they can always manage to find an open man. When Arsenal have the ball they struggle to find space. This is credit to Bayern's pressing tactics. Arsenal's pressing is reactive, meaning only when a Bayern player gets a ball, an Arsenal player runs to him. Bayern's pressing is proactive, meaning all Bayern players take a man even if he is not on the ball, creating little space for Arsenal to manoeuver.

@Crotian 2) Wenger is too loyal to his players. Not ruthless enough to get rid of players who are not up to mark to failed to developed as expected. Walcott, Welbeck, Ramsey, Ox, Gibbs, Jenkinson, Gabriel are not top players. Only Wenger knows how Almunia managed to play 175 games, Walcott, 377 and Senderos, 116. He seems to be putting that same misplaced faith in Maitland Niles and Bielek who I think are average players.

On a side note, Dubrovnik is a beautiful place.

1) Defending was horrible, I agree on that. They should of being more active and especially not letting one man escape 4 others in box like what happened with James. 2) I specially agree on this one, I've seen so many Arsenal fans complaining about Wilshere, Walcott and Welbeck rumours on other forums (SoFIFA, if it can be called forum, still many people there talk about football rather than videogame). Also they could get like 40 millions atleast from only Walcott and Ramsey, old Wenger would do miracles with that money. 3) Dubrovnik is unbeliveable town, however it's absurd how much cash you need to pay in to get inside and get cup of coffee and icecream.

Ah yes, good old Jack "wheelchair" Wilshere. Another one who failed to live up to his potential. In my opinion, Wenger's British core experiment is his downfall. Never won the league ever since he tried to recruit young British footballers. He may be good at spotting foreign talent, but his eye for British talent is terrible.

Demand and supply my friend. Tourist dollars make everything expensive.

I think another problem is that Wenger is basically the most important man in Arsenal, I think they need completely new set of scouts and academy coaches (Mertesacker could be good one), along with medical team although it seems like they are improving knowing that old injury crisis in 2014/15.