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PSV Eindhoven
FT
3 : 0
vs
HT 2 : 0
Debrecen

  • Kick Off at 20:05 (GMT) on 4th November, 2010
  • This is a match in Europa League - Europa League Grp. I, Season 2010/2011

  • PSV Eindhoven
  • Goals
  • Afellay (22')
  • Reis (44')
  • Wuytens (88')
  • Cards
  • Bouma (38')
  • Debrecen
  • Cards
  • Laczko (64')
  • Mijadinoski (90')
Full lineups: PSV Eindhoven vs Debrecen

PSV Eindhoven

Starting XI

  • 1. Andreas Isaksson
  • 13. Atiba Hutchinson
  • 2. Marcelo
  • 18. Wilfred Bouma
  • 14. Erik Pieters
  • 20. Ibrahim Afellay
  • 8. Orlando Engelaar
  • 9. Jeremain Lens
  • 7. Ola Toivonen
  • 22. Balazs Dzsudzsak
  • 30. Jonathan Reis

Substitutes

  • 31. Cassio
  • 4. Maza
  • 6. Marcus Berg
  • 10. Danny Koevermans
  • 11. Nordin Amrabat
  • 15. Stijn Wuytens
  • 28. Otman Bakkal

Coach

  • Fred Rutten

Debrecen

Starting XI

  • 31. Mindaugas Malinauskas
  • 28. Zoltan Nagy
  • 2. Dajan Simac
  • 24. Mirsad Mijadinoski
  • 86. Zsolt Laczko
  • 27. Adam Bodi
  • 33. Jozsef Varga
  • 30. Zoltan Kiss
  • 77. Peter Czvitkovics
  • 55. Peter Szakaly
  • 39. Adamo Coulibaly

Substitutes

  • 87. Istvan Verpecz
  • 6. Luis Ramos
  • 7. Tibor Dombi
  • 18. Peter Mate
  • 20. Yannick Mbengono Ondoa
  • 21. Marcell Fodor
  • 22. Csaba Bernath

Coach

  • Andras Herczeg
  • 12
    fouls
    12
  • 2
    offsides
    0
  • 8
    shots on target
    3
  • 8
    shots off target
    9
  • 5
    blocked shots
    1
  • 5
    corners
    5
  • 15
    crosses
    3
  • 68%
    possession
    32%
20 Votes
PSV Eindhoven vs Debrecen
Team Performance
2 Comments
Rosa 14 years ago
Yeah, 5% 8% is standard rlatoyy fee you can expect from design companies these days. I have experience in that area.BUT It would actually be great if we can have larger discussion about this fact of design industry as it will apply to new technology of 3D printing. (and for many major design brands 3D printing is very new way of making objects)Problem I have with this low number is that, in case of 3D printing, the designer (well, most of us) will give the design company FULL description of product (as STL, probably) and they, in turn, will go ahead and print it in exactly the same way as individual designer would do. Maybe even using same printing service as we (individuals) do. So now what I want to discuss with Joris (and all of you) is: how much then is fair amount of rlatoyy in this new world of 3D printing? Is the fact that your product is now part of larger brand worth giving up such huge amount of final price?The answer used to be YES! But I am not so sure anymore.Consider the fact that design company which licensed out the project will have MUCH less to worry about HOW to manufacture the object. I mean, STL is there send it off to print. It s not like they will now go to China and work for months reworking design to be able to make it in a MUCH cheaper way. There is big difference in that aspect of 3D printing as compared to usual manufacturing. There are both good and bad issues about 3D printed objects as you try to make them in large numbers.Such Design company should still get LARGE part of final price but my sense is that, if the individual designer created full STL file which prints OK designer should get much more than 5%, because the design company needs to do much less or no work at all in the area of how to manufacture the object. (which is where they have most of the work with traditional licensed objects).Of course, there is still marketing, retail connections, advertising etc all well worth BIG chunk of final price. But 95% of it? Really? Why are such numbers still being applied to 3d printed objects when making and distributing of such objects is fundamentally different.Shouldn t licensing numbers also then be reconsidered? Individual designers really should be aware of this.I licensed out one of my lamps for 8% on wholesale price But that one is not 3D printed it was water-jet cut. Company went ahead and reworked whole design to be die-cut and made it MUCH cheaper to produce. (like 10% of my making price). They deserve lions share in profit.I can t see something like that doable for 3D printed objects. (BTW, I wish it is doable but )But hey I may be dreaming I will certainly send some of my designs to this contest.
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thijsFCB 16 years ago
Barcelona, Netherlands 45 223
affelay has skills
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