Golazo111
Maybe you're overrating Bayern then
Alright, Real Madrid has 8, EPL has 10. Point still the same.
you can only think about Ibrahimovic from United that is probably not even going to play 10 games this season, do you really think that they are only good because of DeGea
Well, in their last full season, they won the EFL cup, a cup EPL teams don't tend to prioritize, and the Europa League, which is basically a weakened version of Champions League. In the league they finished 6th. That's the standard of players United have currently. Maybe at the end of the season if they improve more of those players would have developed, like Pogba for instance.
Muller, Boateng, Vidal have been slacking for a while, Pique as well, many say the same about Buffon, and Chielini specially now that Bonucci is not there, pretty much alot of the players you accept as World Class are based on performances from 3-5 years ago...Look how easy you put Suarez as World class when he has been a shadow of his own shadow what did he do recently to confirm he is still world class?
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Muller doesn't work in CA system, I guarantee you if he moves to a team which knows how to use his advantages then he will be one of the best players in the world.
Boateng was injured for a while, but he is still in the top bracket for sure.
Vidal is also still in the top brackets. Just because his roles in Bayern and Chile are different doesn't make him not world class. He is superb for both club and nation.
Pique has declined a bit yes, but to say he is no longer world class? He still commands the defense of Barcelona with his aerial presence and pretty good slide tackling.
Buffon? Dude was nominated for the UEFA player of the season, yet he is not world class. He is still one of the best goalkeepers in the world.
Chielini is one of the best performing players in the Juventus team alongside Buffon and Bonucci, he is certainly world class. Let's not forget you put Mustafi and Emre Can as world class, does that make them better than Chiellini?
Suarez is clearty world class. That's all I have to say. You put Lukaku and Laca ahead of him?
If David Luiz and Willian are not world class then why are they champions of the league and play for Brazil that qualified first to the World Cup?
By that logic, should we say Maxwell is the best player of all time because he has the most trophies?
Yvan21
Yea sure, but the same can be said for other gks like Buffon, De Gea, Courtois, etc. The goalkeeper position is honestly tricky to gauge in quality because if you have a comedy show for a defense then it's going to make you look bad because you will concede a lot of goals as consequence of getting more shots on goal.
Well yes, but when the teams are equally matched it's those games that these goalkeepers prove themselves. He practially threw the game away against Chelsea, did the same for France against Sweden. Also to blame for two City goals last season in which Tottenham got lucky to get a draw.
So more or less where would you draw the line between a top class player and a world class player? Cause I think that's causing a lot of confusion atm.
World class = Neuer, Buffon
Top class = Cech, Navas
So, this can be quite contraversial, so let's put it this way. Do you consider Lloris to be closer to Neuer's level or Cech's level?
Anyway I've added him to the list, since he's getting quite popular.
nigelpayne
Added Pogba and Rodriguez. I'll wait a bit longer for more suggestions on the others.
Emobot7
Added quite a few of those players on the list.
Golefty
no Dybala on your list? is he still a flop XD
Ahaa, maybe not a flop. He's a good candidate actually, and due to suggestions he's on the list, I also thought about putting him on the list even before the suggestions.
Golazo111
Maybe you're overrating Bayern then
Alright, Real Madrid has 8, EPL has 10. Point still the same.
you can only think about Ibrahimovic from United that is probably not even going to play 10 games this season, do you really think that they are only good because of DeGea
Well, in their last full season, they won the EFL cup, a cup EPL teams don't tend to prioritize, and the Europa League, which is basically a weakened version of Champions League. In the league they finished 6th. That's the standard of players United have currently. Maybe at the end of the season if they improve more of those players would have developed, like Pogba for instance.
Muller, Boateng, Vidal have been slacking for a while, Pique as well, many say the same about Buffon, and Chielini specially now that Bonucci is not there, pretty much alot of the players you accept as World Class are based on performances from 3-5 years ago...Look how easy you put Suarez as World class when he has been a shadow of his own shadow what did he do recently to confirm he is still world class?
..........
Muller doesn't work in CA system, I guarantee you if he moves to a team which knows how to use his advantages then he will be one of the best players in the world.
Boateng was injured for a while, but he is still in the top bracket for sure.
Vidal is also still in the top brackets. Just because his roles in Bayern and Chile are different doesn't make him not world class. He is superb for both club and nation.
Pique has declined a bit yes, but to say he is no longer world class? He still commands the defense of Barcelona with his aerial presence and pretty good slide tackling.
Buffon? Dude was nominated for the UEFA player of the season, yet he is not world class. He is still one of the best goalkeepers in the world.
Chielini is one of the best performing players in the Juventus team alongside Buffon and Bonucci, he is certainly world class. Let's not forget you put Mustafi and Emre Can as world class, does that make them better than Chiellini?
Suarez is clearty world class. That's all I have to say. You put Lukaku and Laca ahead of him?
If David Luiz and Willian are not world class then why are they champions of the league and play for Brazil that qualified first to the World Cup?
By that logic, should we say Maxwell is the best player of all time because he has the most trophies?
Yvan21
Yea sure, but the same can be said for other gks like Buffon, De Gea, Courtois, etc. The goalkeeper position is honestly tricky to gauge in quality because if you have a comedy show for a defense then it's going to make you look bad because you will concede a lot of goals as consequence of getting more shots on goal.
Well yes, but when the teams are equally matched it's those games that these goalkeepers prove themselves. He practially threw the game away against Chelsea, did the same for France against Sweden. Also to blame for two City goals last season in which Tottenham got lucky to get a draw.
So more or less where would you draw the line between a top class player and a world class player? Cause I think that's causing a lot of confusion atm.
World class = Neuer, Buffon
Top class = Cech, Navas
So, this can be quite contraversial, so let's put it this way. Do you consider Lloris to be closer to Neuer's level or Cech's level?
See the difference?
nigelpayne
Added Pogba and Rodriguez. I'll wait a bit longer for more suggestions on the others.
Emobot7
Added quite a few of those players on the list.
Golazo111
Maybe you're overrating Bayern then
Alright, Real Madrid has 8, EPL has 10. Point still the same.
you can only think about Ibrahimovic from United that is probably not even going to play 10 games this season, do you really think that they are only good because of DeGea
Well, in their last full season, they won the EFL cup, a cup EPL teams don't tend to prioritize, and the Europa League, which is basically a weakened version of Champions League. In the league they finished 6th. That's the standard of players United have currently. Maybe at the end of the season if they improve more of those players would have developed, like Pogba for instance.
Muller, Boateng, Vidal have been slacking for a while, Pique as well, many say the same about Buffon, and Chielini specially now that Bonucci is not there, pretty much alot of the players you accept as World Class are based on performances from 3-5 years ago...Look how easy you put Suarez as World class when he has been a shadow of his own shadow what did he do recently to confirm he is still world class?
..........
Muller doesn't work in CA system, I guarantee you if he moves to a team which knows how to use his advantages then he will be one of the best players in the world.
Boateng was injured for a while, but he is still in the top bracket for sure.
Vidal is also still in the top brackets. Just because his roles in Bayern and Chile are different doesn't make him not world class. He is superb for both club and nation.
Pique has declined a bit yes, but to say he is no longer world class? He still commands the defense of Barcelona with his aerial presence and pretty good slide tackling.
Buffon? Dude was nominated for the UEFA player of the season, yet he is not world class. He is still one of the best goalkeepers in the world.
Chielini is one of the best performing players in the Juventus team alongside Buffon and Bonucci, he is certainly world class. Let's not forget you put Mustafi and Emre Can as world class, does that make them better than Chiellini?
Suarez is clearty world class. That's all I have to say. You put Lukaku and Laca ahead of him?
If David Luiz and Willian are not world class then why are they champions of the league and play for Brazil that qualified first to the World Cup?
By that logic, should we say Maxwell is the best player of all time because he has the most trophies?
Yvan21
Yea sure, but the same can be said for other gks like Buffon, De Gea, Courtois, etc. The goalkeeper position is honestly tricky to gauge in quality because if you have a comedy show for a defense then it's going to make you look bad because you will concede a lot of goals as consequence of getting more shots on goal.
Well yes, but when the teams are equally matched it's those games that these goalkeepers prove themselves. He practially threw the game away against Chelsea, did the same for France against Sweden. Also to blame for two City goals last season in which Tottenham got lucky to get a draw.
So more or less where would you draw the line between a top class player and a world class player? Cause I think that's causing a lot of confusion atm.
World class = Neuer, Buffon
Top class = Cech, Navas
So, this can be quite contraversial, so let's put it this way. Do you consider Lloris to be closer to Neuer's level or Cech's level?
Anyway I've added him to the list, since he's getting quite popular.
nigelpayne
Added Pogba and Rodriguez. I'll wait a bit longer for more suggestions on the others.
Emobot7
Added quite a few of those players on the list.
Alright guys, this thread will talk about world class players from each team, you can leave your list or challenge my ones.
Real Madrid: Ronaldo, Ramos, Modric, Bale, Kroos, Benzema, Marcelo, Carvajal, Casemiro
Barcelona: Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Busquets, Rakitic, Coutinho, Alba
Bayern: Neuer, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Vidal, Boateng, Thiago, Hummels, Alaba, Rodriguez
PSG: Neymar, Cavani, Di Maria, Verrati
Atletico Madrid: Griezmann, Godin, Koke, Oblak, Costa
Juventus: Buffon, Chiellini, Higuain, Dybala, Sandro
Manchester United: De Gea, Pogba, Sanchez
Manchester City: Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne
Chelsea: Hazard, Courtois, Azpillicueta, Kante, Fàbregas
Dortmund: Reus
Arsenal: Ozil, Aubameyang
Milan: Bonucci
Napoli: Hamsik, Mertens
Tottenham: Eriksen, Kane, Lloris
Inter: Icardi
Liverpool: Salah, Firmino
Comment if you believe anyone is a WORLD CLASS proven player, or someone that I have simply forgotten. Let's discuss!
Also I've tried to judge this through ability rather than form. Muller for example didn't have the best of years last season under CA, but under a different manager or system, I personally believe he would get a massive fear factor.
Alright guys, this thread will talk about world class players from each team, you can leave your list or challenge my ones.
Real Madrid: Ronaldo, Ramos, Modric, Bale, Kroos, Benzema, Marcelo
Barcelona: Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique
Bayern: Neuer, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Vidal, Boateng, Thiago
PSG: Neymar, Cavani, Silva, Di Maria, Verrati
Atletico Madrid: Griezmann, Godin, Koke
Juventus: Buffon, Chiellini, Higuain
Manchester United: Ibrahimovic, De Gea
Manchester City: Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne
Chelsea: Hazard, Costa
Dortmund: Aubameyang, Reus
Arsenal: Sanchez, Ozil
Comment if you believe anyone is a WORLD CLASS proven player, or someone that I have simply forgotten. Let's discuss!
Alright guys, this thread will talk about world class players from each team, you can leave your list or challenge my ones.
Real Madrid: Ronaldo, Ramos, Modric, Bale, Kroos, Benzema, Marcelo
Barcelona: Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique
Bayern: Neuer, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Vidal, Boateng, Thiago
PSG: Neymar, Cavani, Silva, Di Maria, Verrati
Atletico Madrid: Griezmann, Godin, Koke
Juventus: Buffon, Chiellini, Higuain
Manchester United: Ibrahimovic, De Gea
Manchester City: Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne
Chelsea: Hazard, Costa
Dortmund: Aubameyang, Reus
Arsenal: Sanchez, Ozil
Comment if you believe anyone is a WORLD CLASS proven player, or someone that I have simply forgotten. Let's discuss!
Also I've tried to judge this through ability rather than form. Muller for example didn't have the best of years last season under CA, but under a different manager or system, I personally believe he would get a massive fear factor.
Alright guys, this thread will talk about world class players from each team, you can leave your list or challenge my ones.
Real Madrid: Ronaldo, Ramos, Modric, Bale, Kroos, Benzema, Marcelo
Barcelona: Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique
Bayern: Neuer, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Vidal, Boateng, Thiago
PSG: Neymar, Cavani, Silva, Di Maria, Verrati
Atletico Madrid: Griezmann, Godin, Koke
Juventus: Buffon, Chiellini, Higuain
Manchester United: Ibrahimovic, De Gea
Manchester City: Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne
Chelsea: Hazard, Costa
Dortmund: Aubameyang, Reus
Arsenal: Sanchez, Ozil
Milan: Bonucci
Comment if you believe anyone is a WORLD CLASS proven player, or someone that I have simply forgotten. Let's discuss!
Also I've tried to judge this through ability rather than form. Muller for example didn't have the best of years last season under CA, but under a different manager or system, I personally believe he would get a massive fear factor.
Alright guys, this thread will talk about world class players from each team, you can leave your list or challenge my ones.
Real Madrid: Ronaldo, Ramos, Modric, Bale, Kroos, Benzema, Marcelo
Barcelona: Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique
Bayern: Neuer, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Vidal, Boateng, Thiago
PSG: Neymar, Cavani, Silva, Di Maria, Verrati
Atletico Madrid: Griezmann, Godin, Koke
Juventus: Buffon, Chiellini, Higuain
Manchester United: Ibrahimovic, De Gea
Manchester City: Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne
Chelsea: Hazard, Costa, Courtois
Dortmund: Aubameyang, Reus
Arsenal: Sanchez, Ozil
Milan: Bonucci
Comment if you believe anyone is a WORLD CLASS proven player, or someone that I have simply forgotten. Let's discuss!
Also I've tried to judge this through ability rather than form. Muller for example didn't have the best of years last season under CA, but under a different manager or system, I personally believe he would get a massive fear factor.
Alright guys, this thread will talk about world class players from each team, you can leave your list or challenge my ones.
Real Madrid: Ronaldo, Ramos, Modric, Bale, Kroos, Benzema, Marcelo
Barcelona: Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique, Mascherano
Bayern: Neuer, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Vidal, Boateng, Thiago, Hummels
PSG: Neymar, Cavani, Silva, Di Maria, Verrati
Atletico Madrid: Griezmann, Godin, Koke
Juventus: Buffon, Chiellini, Higuain
Manchester United: Ibrahimovic, De Gea
Manchester City: Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne
Chelsea: Hazard, Costa, Courtois
Dortmund: Aubameyang, Reus
Arsenal: Sanchez, Ozil
Milan: Bonucci
Comment if you believe anyone is a WORLD CLASS proven player, or someone that I have simply forgotten. Let's discuss!
Also I've tried to judge this through ability rather than form. Muller for example didn't have the best of years last season under CA, but under a different manager or system, I personally believe he would get a massive fear factor.
Alright guys, this thread will talk about world class players from each team, you can leave your list or challenge my ones.
Real Madrid: Ronaldo, Ramos, Modric, Bale, Kroos, Benzema, Marcelo
Barcelona: Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique, Mascherano
Bayern: Neuer, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Vidal, Boateng, Thiago, Hummels
PSG: Neymar, Cavani, Silva, Di Maria, Verrati
Atletico Madrid: Griezmann, Godin, Koke, Oblak
Juventus: Buffon, Chiellini, Higuain
Manchester United: Ibrahimovic, De Gea
Manchester City: Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne
Chelsea: Hazard, Costa, Courtois
Dortmund: Aubameyang, Reus
Arsenal: Sanchez, Ozil
Milan: Bonucci
Comment if you believe anyone is a WORLD CLASS proven player, or someone that I have simply forgotten. Let's discuss!
Also I've tried to judge this through ability rather than form. Muller for example didn't have the best of years last season under CA, but under a different manager or system, I personally believe he would get a massive fear factor.
Alright guys, this thread will talk about world class players from each team, you can leave your list or challenge my ones.
Real Madrid: Ronaldo, Ramos, Modric, Bale, Kroos, Benzema, Marcelo, Carvajal
Barcelona: Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique, Mascherano
Bayern: Neuer, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Vidal, Boateng, Thiago, Hummels, Alaba
PSG: Neymar, Cavani, Silva, Di Maria, Verrati
Atletico Madrid: Griezmann, Godin, Koke, Oblak
Juventus: Buffon, Chiellini, Higuain
Manchester United: Ibrahimovic, De Gea
Manchester City: Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne
Chelsea: Hazard, Costa, Courtois
Dortmund: Aubameyang, Reus
Arsenal: Sanchez, Ozil
Milan: Bonucci
Napoli: Hamsik
Comment if you believe anyone is a WORLD CLASS proven player, or someone that I have simply forgotten. Let's discuss!
Also I've tried to judge this through ability rather than form. Muller for example didn't have the best of years last season under CA, but under a different manager or system, I personally believe he would get a massive fear factor.
Alright guys, this thread will talk about world class players from each team, you can leave your list or challenge my ones.
Real Madrid: Ronaldo, Ramos, Modric, Bale, Kroos, Benzema, Marcelo, Carvajal, Casemiro
Barcelona: Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique, Mascherano, Rakitic
Bayern: Neuer, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Vidal, Boateng, Thiago, Hummels, Alaba, Rodriguez
PSG: Neymar, Cavani, Silva, Di Maria, Verrati
Atletico Madrid: Griezmann, Godin, Koke, Oblak
Juventus: Buffon, Chiellini, Higuain, Dybala
Manchester United: Ibrahimovic, De Gea, Pogba
Manchester City: Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne
Chelsea: Hazard, Costa, Courtois, Azpillicueta, Kante
Dortmund: Aubameyang, Reus
Arsenal: Sanchez, Ozil
Milan: Bonucci
Napoli: Hamsik
Tottenham: Eriksen, Kane, Lloris
Comment if you believe anyone is a WORLD CLASS proven player, or someone that I have simply forgotten. Let's discuss!
Also I've tried to judge this through ability rather than form. Muller for example didn't have the best of years last season under CA, but under a different manager or system, I personally believe he would get a massive fear factor.
Alright guys, this thread will talk about world class players from each team, you can leave your list or challenge my ones.
Real Madrid: Ronaldo, Ramos, Modric, Bale, Kroos, Benzema, Marcelo, Carvajal, Casemiro
Barcelona: Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique, Mascherano, Rakitic
Bayern: Neuer, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Vidal, Boateng, Thiago, Hummels, Alaba, Rodriguez
PSG: Neymar, Cavani, Silva, Di Maria, Verrati
Atletico Madrid: Griezmann, Godin, Koke, Oblak
Juventus: Buffon, Chiellini, Higuain, Dybala, Sandro
Manchester United: Ibrahimovic, De Gea, Pogba
Manchester City: Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne
Chelsea: Hazard, Costa, Courtois, Azpillicueta, Kante
Dortmund: Aubameyang, Reus
Arsenal: Sanchez, Ozil
Milan: Bonucci
Napoli: Hamsik, Mertens
Tottenham: Eriksen, Kane, Lloris
Inter: Icardi
Comment if you believe anyone is a WORLD CLASS proven player, or someone that I have simply forgotten. Let's discuss!
Also I've tried to judge this through ability rather than form. Muller for example didn't have the best of years last season under CA, but under a different manager or system, I personally believe he would get a massive fear factor.
Alright guys, this thread will talk about world class players from each team, you can leave your list or challenge my ones.
Real Madrid: Ronaldo, Ramos, Modric, Bale, Kroos, Benzema, Marcelo, Carvajal, Casemiro
Barcelona: Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique, Mascherano, Rakitic
Bayern: Neuer, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Vidal, Boateng, Thiago, Hummels, Alaba, Rodriguez
PSG: Neymar, Cavani, Silva, Di Maria, Verrati
Atletico Madrid: Griezmann, Godin, Koke, Oblak, Costa
Juventus: Buffon, Chiellini, Higuain, Dybala, Sandro
Manchester United: Ibrahimovic, De Gea, Pogba
Manchester City: Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne
Chelsea: Hazard, Courtois, Azpillicueta, Kante
Dortmund: Aubameyang, Reus
Arsenal: Sanchez, Ozil
Milan: Bonucci
Napoli: Hamsik, Mertens
Tottenham: Eriksen, Kane, Lloris
Inter: Icardi
Comment if you believe anyone is a WORLD CLASS proven player, or someone that I have simply forgotten. Let's discuss!
Also I've tried to judge this through ability rather than form. Muller for example didn't have the best of years last season under CA, but under a different manager or system, I personally believe he would get a massive fear factor.
Alright guys, this thread will talk about world class players from each team, you can leave your list or challenge my ones.
Real Madrid: Ronaldo, Ramos, Modric, Bale, Kroos, Benzema, Marcelo, Carvajal, Casemiro
Barcelona: Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique, Mascherano, Rakitic
Bayern: Neuer, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Vidal, Boateng, Thiago, Hummels, Alaba, Rodriguez
PSG: Neymar, Cavani, Silva, Di Maria, Verrati
Atletico Madrid: Griezmann, Godin, Koke, Oblak, Costa
Juventus: Buffon, Chiellini, Higuain, Dybala, Sandro
Manchester United: Ibrahimovic, De Gea, Pogba
Manchester City: Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne
Chelsea: Hazard, Courtois, Azpillicueta, Kante, Fàbregas
Dortmund: Aubameyang, Reus
Arsenal: Sanchez, Ozil
Milan: Bonucci
Napoli: Hamsik, Mertens
Tottenham: Eriksen, Kane, Lloris
Inter: Icardi
Comment if you believe anyone is a WORLD CLASS proven player, or someone that I have simply forgotten. Let's discuss!
Also I've tried to judge this through ability rather than form. Muller for example didn't have the best of years last season under CA, but under a different manager or system, I personally believe he would get a massive fear factor.
Alright guys, this thread will talk about world class players from each team, you can leave your list or challenge my ones.
Real Madrid: Ronaldo, Ramos, Modric, Bale, Kroos, Benzema, Marcelo, Carvajal, Casemiro
Barcelona: Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique, Rakitic
Bayern: Neuer, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Vidal, Boateng, Thiago, Hummels, Alaba, Rodriguez
PSG: Neymar, Cavani, Di Maria, Verrati
Atletico Madrid: Griezmann, Godin, Koke, Oblak, Costa
Juventus: Buffon, Chiellini, Higuain, Dybala, Sandro
Manchester United: De Gea, Pogba, Sanchez
Manchester City: Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne
Chelsea: Hazard, Courtois, Azpillicueta, Kante, Fàbregas
Dortmund: Reus
Arsenal: Ozil, Aubameyang
Milan: Bonucci
Napoli: Hamsik, Mertens
Tottenham: Eriksen, Kane, Lloris
Inter: Icardi
Comment if you believe anyone is a WORLD CLASS proven player, or someone that I have simply forgotten. Let's discuss!
Also I've tried to judge this through ability rather than form. Muller for example didn't have the best of years last season under CA, but under a different manager or system, I personally believe he would get a massive fear factor.