because they want to rig the game... lol... just kidding.
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because they want to rig the game... lol... just kidding.
@kyoekyar - Lol! Hag1 mate! :)
Honestly it's sad most popular sport in the world can't put some cash into technology that would help it so much. FIFA did this on one tournament just to get some first impressions from fans. Even American football has got stuff like video technology (red flag stuff). And when people complain about time it takes, just show them example of tennis (challenges). So team can have like 3 of them so they won't waste time.
The most common argument that I have heard from FANS, not from the organizations themselves, is that the element of human error is desirable within the game.
http://footyroom.com/forum/discussions/referee-video-review-in-football-81091
The first page of my old thread on this displays this viewpoint somewhat thoroughly.
Sun, I suppose its desirable until it directly impacts your team in a negative way. Its just tradition but with time we would get used to the tech and the sport would evolve. Im sure at first people opposed the introduction of an offside rule as well.
Sun, I suppose its desirable until it directly impacts your team in a negative way. Its just tradition but with time we would get used to the tech and the sport would evolve. Im sure at first people opposed the introduction of an offside rule as well.
I think the argument is retarded and displays lack of mental clarity "it all evens out!" yeah right.
Just saying it's the most common one.
Im not saying thats my opinion, the people who are against the tech are most likely that way. In stead of jumping on the "argument is retarded" you could debate wether its factible or not. Most people do indeed dont give a damn until that very same thing impacts them negatively.
Im not saying thats my opinion, the people who are against the tech are most likely that way
@kyoekar no honestly i think it is because of that reason srsly!
but because of the pressure from fans I'm kinda hopeful they might start using it by lets say 2019. i hope they do.
You can't rig a game when the video replays prove otherwise. :/
Could be corruption, as some of you guys have mentioned, but one could argue that it may costs a lot to install them into the game, but if it's all for the purpose of fair play, count me in. This season's refereeing have been awful for our league, but for games as important as the the cup tournaments, a lot is at stake. Perhaps FIFA should start thinking about adding in goal line tech into major tournaments such as the CL, especially after the group stages.
At this point corruption is the only feasible reason :P
They need to make a new rule book and make sure they stick to it. For instance, Alonso against Arsenal fouled Walcott which was supposed to give the penalty to Arsenal. However, in slow motion the pundits were able to see that Alonso actually touched the ball before Walcott. Ian Wright stated that there was not enough contact for the human eye to have seen, whilst Ferdinand argued that if he even touched 0.00001% of the ball he still touched the ball. In a way, the person coordinating the video technology could use it to their advantage.
@amir
Good point, but if a ball crosses the line by a fraction that is undetectable to the human eye , its still a goal, and that is the logic that computers make, and that is fact. and fact is not up to interpretation, so if you just go by Ferdinand's logic id argue there is no room for interpretation
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and that is the logic that computers make, and that is fact. and fact is not up to interpretation
Exactly. That's why UEFA need to make the rules applicable so that these arguments don't happen
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNGWO4pVHEU
If you set the video speed to 0.25, you can see that Vidal actually touched the ball first. However, assuming that people talk about the game if they've watched it, there's still a marginable disagreement if he deserved another yellow card for that foul, let alone a free kick.
In other words, I'm trying to say rules shouldn't be interpreted post match.
The offside goals or the ghost goals (when the ball crossed the line fully but is not given as a goal) would be easy fixes with technology and it should definitely be implemented there. However, that still doesn't attend to plays where the linesman cuts play even before the striker or any other player can continue with the play. So, it can correct mistakes when there's a goal that comes from an offside position. But, it can't correct mistakes when there's not offside but is given as one and play stops there.
Also, fouls like the one Vidal made on Asensio would still be really debatable. After seeing it a bunch of times you can see that it is a really tough decision even at slow speeds. So, it still leaves a lot for the group of referees to interpret based on whether the player's tackle was reckless or was dangerous enough to where it could cause damage to the other player. So, it'd still leave a lot for the referees to interpret. For example, deciding whether he'd give a second yellow card or not if it was a foul. If he says it was a foul, but not worthy of a second yellow, then the opposing team and fans would feel robbed.
Handballs are also tough to call because the rules are really unclear where no one knows what an unnatural position is. So I doubt it would change much at all there either.
Next, you have to decide who makes the decision to rewatch a replay from the controversial play. For example, should that be up to the referee to decide or should Bayern staff ask for a replay? if it's Bayern's responsibility then are they just gonna ask for a replay every time there is a controversial foul or should they have a limited number of appeals?
So, yea it would help out in those two things I mentioned at the beginning and make the game fairer. But, it won't solve all the problems so expect to see unhappy fans even after (if) technology is implemented.
After seeing it a bunch of times you can see that it is a really tough decision even at slow speeds.
No it's not, you can clearly see that the foot tackles the player first which would mean it's a foul and then after already knowing that he got away with other fouls before it it's a justified second yellow card.
Handballs are also tough to call because the rules are really unclear where no one knows what an unnatural position is.
They can simply review the incident and if the ball did hit the hand then it's always a handball that happened and it needs maybe another decision, still a much more practical way of knowing what happen regardless if there was the intent of playing with the hand or not.
you have to decide who makes the decision to rewatch a replay from the controversial play. For example, should that be up to the referee to decide or should Bayern staff ask for a replay?
It's a no brainer that the refs should take a look at the video and decide what to do just like in other sports like Basketball, Hockey...A team has nothing to do with the review of the situation only the refs.
After seeing it a bunch of times you can see that it is a really tough decision even at slow speeds.
No it's not, you can clearly see that the tackles the player first which would mean it's a foul and then after already knowing that he got away with other fouls before it it's a justified second yellow card.
Handballs are also tough to call because the rules are really unclear where no one knows what an unnatural position is.
They can simply review the incident and if the ball did hit the hand then it's always a handball that happened and it needs maybe another decision, still a much more practical way of knowing what happen regardless if there was the intent of playing with the hand on not.
you have to decide who makes the decision to rewatch a replay from the controversial play. For example, should that be up to the referee to decide or should Bayern staff ask for a replay?
It's a no brainer that the refs should take a look at the video and decide what to do just like in other sports like Basketball, Hockey...A team has nothing to do with the review of the situation only the refs.
After seeing it a bunch of times you can see that it is a really tough decision even at slow speeds.
No it's not, you can clearly see that the foot tackles the player first which would mean it's a foul and then after already knowing that he got away with other fouls before it it's a justified second yellow card.
Handballs are also tough to call because the rules are really unclear where no one knows what an unnatural position is.
They can simply review the incident and if the ball did hit the hand then it's always a handball that happened and it needs maybe another decision, still a much more practical way of knowing what happen regardless if there was the intent of playing with the hand on not.
you have to decide who makes the decision to rewatch a replay from the controversial play. For example, should that be up to the referee to decide or should Bayern staff ask for a replay?
It's a no brainer that the refs should take a look at the video and decide what to do just like in other sports like Basketball, Hockey...A team has nothing to do with the review of the situation only the refs.
I would like to know what would have changed in football if video technology was there since 1980. Who would/should have won cups and where would they be right now.
The big sharks have manipulated this beautiful game. Thanks to UEFA's & FA greediness
@Yvan21 Agreed mate, people will alway find excuses to be unhappy with the results, still hope the video replay technology become mainstream soon! Will make it the game a lot more fair at least. On another note mate, welcome to the forum.
@Alex Can I propose to take that idea to the football alternate history thread we have on here, would love to see what kind of scenario you could come up with. :D http://footyroom.com/forum/discussions/football-alternate-history-80001
@Yvan21 Agreed mate, people will alway find excuses to be unhappy with the results, still hope the video replay technology become mainstream soon! Will make it much more interesting for us fan.
@Yvan21 Agreed mate, people will alway find excuses to be unhappy with the results, still hope the video replay technology become mainstream soon! Will make it the game a lot more fair at least.
@Yvan21 Agreed mate, people will alway find excuses to be unhappy with the results, still hope the video replay technology become mainstream soon! Will make it the game a lot more fair at least. On another note mate, welcome to the forum.
After last night (Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich) i really just wondered why video technology is not used in football... Two huge decisions by the referee (Vidal's red card and Ronaldo's offside goal) completely changed the game and could have just ruined the rest of the Champions League.
If they had used video technology in the Barca vs PSG game, the UCL KO stages could have been completely different too.
The thing i just really don't get, is that it would barely take as long as a substitution to do and it would make the game much better and fairer. But the stupid thing is, is that if video technology was used and went against the team that you supported, you wouldn't like the fact that you may have not got a penalty, or scored a goal and it was disallowed etc...
What are your thoughts on it? I, personally, really would like video technology in football......... I just don't understand why its not used.......
Sorry, slightly jumbled but i hope you can see what i'm trying to say?! #KeepSmiling #SmileMore :)