@Ktf Well then keep being surprised each year for English sides miss advantures in CL, and then keep loosing money on betting i guess you dont bet much or give importance to results because each year this points is becoming more and more obvious....

@tiki in all honesty, I think you're quite "irrational" in your answers. I repeat, Do you still seriously think that Villa Real would beat Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool, Tottenham and/or Arsenal? Are you for real? What's going on in your head?

I just find it funny how you always try to compare the leagues in one way or another. Casually stating that VIllareal would be title contender in the BPL. Tss. You always try to compare whatever the subject of the thread and never win an argument because you base your presumptions on vague personal biased thoughts and nothing else.

And let me assure you when it comes to betting I'm more knowledgeable than you are, and win more money than you do. In fact I run a fucking 'bettingblog'. 127% ROI last year.

Also, funny how Villareal has 5 times the money against Barca if they are so good. Especially when they play at home, are in good form and has a 1-3 aggregate to take in.

The odds depends on many aspects, i beted on Basel - Liverpool draw in CL group stage at 4.2 odd, while reds got only 1.6...
Hesitated to bet on a draw this weeknd Villareal VS Madrid at 5.75 odd, its quite impossible that you bet on any Spanish side outside Top 6 do you ?

Lets end it here, happy to be irrational im pretty happy with it and i earn money from my irrational views, change topic you know my point, i surely know yours so move on.

For instance Sevilla last year defeated Benfica who defeated Juve and Tottenha very easily at the lane, full strenght and weapons....

Many examples so maybe those teams just have accidents in hlaf of the games they play,maybe they arent that good than you pretend, it depends on how we see defeats, sometimes its ref, sometimes its luck, sometimes its rotation, sometimes its the coach....

I would have loved to see Tottenham - Sevilla or Liverpool - Villareal to win easy money with big odds, but sadly it wont be the case ths year.

If you win all that money then please share some predictions :) at least we could have constructive win-win situation rather than just personal insults...

Just to confirm your happily irrational thoughts; you still think that Villareal would beat or be on equal level in terms of performance as Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool, Tottenham and/or Arsenal?

It really is just like the 2 last years or so that English teams have been bad in international cups. This year in the El for example was a big joke. Did you see the games? Felt like the English teams didn't even try to win and instead tried to focus on the league. Did you see the substitutions? The Arsenal lose to Monaco was just sick, the few shots Monaco had on goal went in and Arsenal didn't perform. Meanwhile Barcelona met City without Yaya Toure who is ever so important so they were chance less against a better Barcelona.

Anyways, last time Villareal met an english team they lost with 5-1 aggregate in against City in the group stage of CL in 11/12. Meanwhile they easily beat pretty much all the other opponents internationally. City are as good now as then.

And I'm talking about Villareal in general. With their current form they might very well be equally good as the above teams but I highly doubt they would stand a chance in the long run. But I guess there's no need to argue about it.

And sure; here's the current bettingsite: http://bettingstugan.se/skribent/ryggareken. I'll happily share my predictions on here in English as well. And you're right, I tend to bet ont he league I know the best. So should everyone.

This argument doesnt stand any chance, only Chelsea has an impressive long run, the long run is actually PL teams weaknesses...
Some arent able to compete for many competitions and some arent strong enough, tactically prepared or lacks depth like So'ton.
The only mystery for me is everton, i was expecting them to be higher but it seems that they concentrate on getting the ticket by winning EL, not a reason to slip up in the league.
Got an unlucky start of the season drew many games they should have won, and gave a good display against Chelsea despite the ( 3-5 score )....

PL teams arent good in the long runs eaither, made a thread about Villareal if you want to talk of it there...

"Do you still seriously think that Villa Real would beat Chelsea,
Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool, Tottenham and/or Arsenal?
Are you for real? What's going on in your head?"

Do you seriously think Villarreal couldn't beat Chelsea, Man C, Man U, Pool, Spurs, Arsenal? Are you for real? Whats going on in your head?

M8, stop living in the bubble, just look at the results in CL and EL the last 7 years..

take the 7 teams La Liga have in Europe play any given season vs PLs 7 Teams.. this is exactly what the UEFA league coeffecient is about and atm La Liga is leading by 15k points... 15k! http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/

"Felt like the English teams didn't even try to win and instead tried to focus on the league."
Sorry thats not an argument, season after season you fail in EL and far from every english team in every EL season says that they dont give **** about EL, still they fail season after season and now EL gives a CL spot and still you fail..
****you think that La Liga teams dont care about the League more than EL? There are almost always a though CL battle in the league that the spanish EL teams are involved in that needs more focus..

@ks Yes, that's what I'm saying. In all honesty your comments don't weigh as much as most others on here from now on for me because they're mostly nonsense. Villareal played in the fucking second tire of spanish football only 2 years ago. In your head they're as good as Arsenal or Chelsea etc? You make me laugh.. The average salary of Aston Villa is 31t euros a week. Compare that to the wages of the top leagues in the BPL. AstonVilla is a an averagely good team in La Liga and you think they're as good as the top teams of the BPL. hahahaha. facepalm*

And firstly why do you think the UEFA league coefficient is so high? Hey Barcelona and Real!!!Secondly because the Spanish teams had an amazing season 13/14 with Atheltico and real in the CL final and Sevilla winning the EL their UEFA coefficient rose. That's THE season La liga got their UEFA coefficient points from. Meanwhile the English teams where crap. Still, that's ONE season.

You're heavily biased. Also, way to avoid the mid-table team comparison.

hahah tiki taka doesn't stop arguing with people and for those who say that villareal would be title contenders in premier league need to take some medications lol no explanation needed.

you arnt listening to me.. the coefficient is not just Real and Barca, i expected you to have more upstairs than to think that, you forgot Villarreal reaching CL semis? you forgot Malaga almost reaching semis 2 years ago? You forgot Valencias CL play 3 season in a row some season ago where we were decent and one of the years we were among 4 La Liga teams qualifying for the 2nd round when there were only 2 english teams making it to that round? forgot Athletic Bilbao beating Man U and reaching EL finals where they faced Atletco in a full spanish final? forgot Sevillas performances in EL the last few years and their title? forgot Atletico vs Chelsea and their last season in CL?

@chelsea8 Oh.. you mean that you should

"ONE season" you mean all the seasons since 08

"That's THE season La liga got their UEFA coefficient points from" are you serious?

lets cound the number of times spanish and PL teams have reached the quarters the last five years in CL:

La liga; 10 times
PL: 6 times

if we count with this year.. counting Chelsea make it and all the spanish ones make it:

La Liga: 13 times
PL: 7 times

and if we do the same with semi final places:

La Liga: 8 times (3 different teams, could have been a 9th time hadnt Malaga been eliminated by a bad reff call)
PL: 3 times (2 different teams)

Wow, what happened here.

There is no way somebody said that Villerael would be competing for the title if they were in the BPL, that is the biggest pile of crap I have ever heard. There isn't a hope in hell that they could compete in our league for the title.

I think and I am not making an excuse for the english teams because they should do better, but the reason why they might not do so well in europe is because of the high intensity of the premier league, every weekend you can't plan that you are going to win whereas in La Liga you can. E.g Arsenal could have Stoke away and then europe and then Chelsea away and then europe and then Crystal Palace away. You can say arsenal are favourites for the matches against Stoke and Crystal Palace but premier league fans know that it isn't that easy and that Stoke away is hard and that if you came away with none of your players injured and a point that is a fantastic result and then on top of that you have to mkae sure that your players are rested enough for the two european games and the chelsea games and hope that you can take something out of those games. Whereas in La Liga Real Madrid will have Granada away and then europe and then Eibar and then europe and then another team that they will easily take 3 point from.

The point I am trying to make is that in la liga you can afford to rest players like ronaldo for the games you know you are going to win on the weekend so you can focus on europe but in BPL arsenal can't rest sanchez cause they won't get the three points that they want, and that is why the BPL is better because of the teams not competing in europe being such strong competition for the teams who are