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Third Season Mourinho..Bridge Burning Syndrome?
DatGuy 9 years ago
Manchester United, United States 4 20

First, excuse the pun! I don't actually mean that Jose will burn down Stamford Bridge. However, a pattern is fast developing with Jose. He blames and alienates someone closely tied to the club in his third season.

His first spell with Chelsea ended with dispute with Abramavich, Frank Arnsen, and Avram Grant.
He didn't have a third season with Inter
At Real Madrid, everyone knows what transpired between the club legend, Iker Casillas, Sergio Ramos and Mourinho.

He just started season 3 with Chelsea again, and we woke up to reports that Eva Carneiro, the lovely club doctor, has been practically demoted and exiled for caring a bit too much about her players. It's an exaggerated reaction and very unfair..but Jose being Jose won't care. How the players take it is another thing we have to watch and see..

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raimondo90 9 years ago
Valencia, Argentina 89 2492

His reaction is extremely over exaggerated. True the medic team did rush in the field and left Chelsea with 9 outfield players but if I recall correctly Eva wasn't the first to rush into the pitch. It was her assistant that ran first, her following.
This is a typical reaction from Mou to blame others when his team slacks and drops points or underperforms.
Demoting her is seriously stupid. If it was a big deal a talking to in private would have sufficed. And I believe someone who has been caring for football players for years would understand the game enough to know when to rush in and when not to.

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Marcus2011 9 years ago
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

I must disagree he has a valid reason to criticize , but maybe little overreacted . Also Reason why she may be axed from bench was because her publicly going and thanking Chelsea fans for support thus creating thread and furthering this issue . Basically giving sub-message as she is the victim of abuse .

I think Jose overreacted , but I think Eva should not have rush onto field or letting her assistant to do so and then sending thank you for support " message on twitter ... Nothing wrong with thanking for support but she created even bigger mess . She should have used different language or not comment on the issue . She should not take this personal . I hope she does not and most likely she does not . It is a routine criticism that should have been dust it on the same day .

Also Chelsea fans who are sending out support you are also part of the problem. You are blowing this out of proportion . Lets be calm and let this calm down . For the sake of our club , for the sake of Jose and Eva , this matter should have been settled without being blown out of proportion . It was simple criticism that I am sure Eva did not take personally and make sure does not happen again and Jose overreacted a bit but at the same time he has a point and a RIGHT because he is the boss of the team .

If Chelsea looses he has to respond to the board , not the team or medical team . Since he is head of the team ( including medical team ) everything supposed to be coordinated under his command . If Chelsea fails in campaign he is the one who goes not Eva or players . So , I understand his frustration .

Basically , if My boss at work criticized me for doing a bad job , it would have been very unethical for me to show him in bad light and portraying myself as victim when I honestly did mess up at work . I think she did not mean to , it was genuine thanks and she probably realized by now . However , Eva did fck up and Jose did overreact , and Medical team should just make sure this does not happen again . That is where it all should end .

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Marcus2011 9 years ago
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

@datguy

Without disrespect but clearly you are talking gibberish about him having problems every where he goes . Man wants full control . What is wrong with it ? Something that your legendary manager , Sir Alex Ferguson , had at the club .

First dispute , Abramovich mistake . He cared too much and started acting like Perez . We want him to be our owner not manager. Avram Grant is one sneaky bastard . Snitch of Roman . With Arnsen was misunderstanding . So , I don't see the fault of Mourinho here .

Second , Inter --- gibberish . He was absolutely adored there ! IF he had third season , Inter probably would have defended their CL title because they were still pretty damn good .

Third one , ooh I really hate the third because we talk about so many times , if i say something Madrid fans will be running here defending their legend . Who IMO is a SNITCH , betrayed team, and his teammates , wanted special privileges just because of his past , and disrespected Lopez big time with his crying ( literally crying ) and annoying demands . Which btw almost cost 10th CL for Madrid . And with Ramos well Idk Mourinho was seen hugging Ramos on the morning of departure . Ramos is just dumb , he was manipulated with friendships with Casillas . Although I think Ramos has to thank Jose a lot because it was Jose who turned Ramos into one of the best center backs in the world from right back position .

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Jimbet 9 years ago
Arsenal, Malaysia 12 1292

^ video of incident..

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tiki_taka 9 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

This season is crucial to see if Mourinho could break his short term successcurse and bring it into the long term. its not easy to be under him for a long time, it would be interesting to see if he can win the title again.

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Jozifbadmon 9 years ago
Arsenal, France 4 56

Didn't mourinho just sign a new contract with chelsea ? Anyway this is nothing comparable with a clash between manager and players, or manager and owner, this won't change chelsea's season. Eva's just a physio.Also from what I saw of the game, the ref asked for the medical team to come help hazard which means hazard asked for it. So it's not their fault, it's hazard's fault for asking the medical team to come while not being really injured (trying to waste time ?).

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Marcus2011 9 years ago
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

Why would we wasted time when we needed time to score ?

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decentK 9 years ago
Arsenal 38 2896

Hazard's diving & "KING JOSE MOURINHO"'s idiotism cost Eva Carneiro's job.

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SunFlash 9 years ago
USA 19 3260

We don't dismiss referee's when they get fooled by a dive, why should we dismiss medical staff?

The medical staff is there to help an injured player, and Hazard appeared to be injured.

This whole charade is stupid.

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Marcus2011 9 years ago Edited
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

Hazard does not dive . Never dived and never will dive . Stop creating lie fishing for our reaction . It is called trolling .

Edit: sometimes i think he should because these refs allow every kind of challenge on him ...

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Hazard does not dive . Never dived and never will dive . Stop creating lie fishing for our reaction . It is called trolling .

Jozifbadmon 9 years ago Edited
Arsenal, France 4 56

How it happened from what I gathered :

Hazard is hurt, he asks for the medical team to come on
The ref waves the medical team to come on to assist hazard
The medical team comes on to assist hurt hazard
Mourinho gets mad at the medical team

Also, ran into something funny mourinho said last season :

"Jose Mourinho insisted he would never interfere in medical decisions after Thibaut Courtois suffered a head injury in Chelsea's 2-0 win over Arsenal at Stamford Bridge.

"On the bench I don't communicate with the doctors. I just get decisions. 'Can he stay (on)?' 'Yes'; 'He has to leave'. 'Okay'.

"I have no time and no medical qualities to discuss that."

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How it happened from what I gathered :>Hazard is hurt, he asks for the medical team to come on>The ref waves the medical team to come on to assist hazard>The medical team comes on to assist hurt hazard>Mourinho gets mad at the medical teamAlso, ran into something funny mourinho said last season :"Jose Mourinho insisted he would never interfere in medical decisions after Thibaut Courtois suffered a head injury in Chelsea's 2-0 win over Arsenal at Stamford Bridge."On the bench I don't communicate with the doctors. I just get decisions. 'Can he stay (on)?' 'Yes'; 'He has to leave'. 'Okay'."I have no time and no medical qualities to discuss that."

How it happened from what I gathered :

Hazard is hurt, he asks for the medical team to come on

The ref waves the medical team to come on to assist hazard

The medical team comes on to assist hurt hazard

Mourinho gets mad at the medical team

Also, ran into something funny mourinho said last season :

"Jose Mourinho insisted he would never interfere in medical decisions after Thibaut Courtois suffered a head injury in Chelsea's 2-0 win over Arsenal at Stamford Bridge.

"On the bench I don't communicate with the doctors. I just get decisions. 'Can he stay (on)?' 'Yes'; 'He has to leave'. 'Okay'.

"I have no time and no medical qualities to discuss that."

DatGuy 9 years ago Edited
Manchester United, United States 4 20

Marcus...

i hear you about the no disrespect. None taken!

ok so First, Jozifbadman summed it up well. The doctors were simply responding to the referee's call. Hazard went down, referee ran over, looked at Hazard and deemed the situation serious enough to call the doctors. So for Mourinho to then come out guns blazing and call his medical team naive is too serious to be dismissed as "an overreaction". Mourinho is simply a petulant manager who is never at fault for any inconvenient result that his team suffers. I stand to be corrected, but there is no manager ever, alive or otherwise, who would stoop to the level of giving the medical team a dressing down for following there professional duty. And as far as I know, Mourinho is no doctor, so I'm not sure why he assumed Hazard was play acting to get a rest.

Second, I was simply pointing out a pattern. It might be coincidental or it might not, but there is no denying that there has been an issue in his 3rd season. A misunderstanding is two way..Mourinho was at fault and Arnsen was at fault. My point is still valid. You can dismiss Grant as you wish, but he had Chelsea's interest at heart. Two finals and premier league contention to the last day doesnt sound like work a sneaky bastard would do.
I can't and didn't talk about Inter, because there was NO third season..hence no pattern to follow. Mourinho was adored at Chelsea last season, but this season it's those same fans who are criticising him for this petulant reaction.
Anything could have happened at Inter.

And about RM, contribute to the discussion from an informed position please. Everyone who disagrees with Mourinho can't be called a snitch. Iker had a responsibility as the Spanish captain to ensure amicable relations with his teammates from Barcelona. Football is a sport not war as your eye-gogging manager seems to think it is. Seeking to mend bridges is not snitching, and certainly isn't grounds for what happened next. If you are talking about the leaked lineups, i'll listen to evidence that Iker leaked it...if you got any!

You can defend him, and I appreciate your loyalty, but Mourinho is a petulant troublemaker..its that simple

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Marcus...

First, i hear you about the no disrespect. Jozifbadman summed it up well. The doctors were simply responding to the referee's call. Hazard went down, referee ran over, looked at Hazard and deemed the situation serious enough to call the doctors. So for Mourinho to then come out guns blazing and call his medical team naive is too serious to be dismissed as "an overreaction". Mourinho is simply a petulant manager who is never at fault for any inconvenient result that his team suffers. I stand to be corrected, but there is no manager ever, alive or otherwise, who would stoop to the level of giving the medical team a dressing down for following there professional duty. And as far as I know, Mourinho is no doctor, so I'm not sure why he assumed Hazard was play acting to get a rest.

Second, I was simply pointing out a pattern. It might be coincidental or it might not, but there is no denying that there has been an issue in his 3rd season. A misunderstanding is two way..Mourinho was at fault and Arnsen was at fault. My point is still valid. You can dismiss Grant as you wish, but he had Chelsea's interest at heart. Two finals and premier league contention to the last day doesnt sound like work a sneaky bastard would do.
I can't and didn't talk about Inter, because there was NO third season..hence no pattern to follow. Mourinho was adored at Chelsea last season, but this season it's those same fans who are criticising him for this petulant reaction.
Anything could have happened at Inter.

And about RM, contribute to the discussion from an informed position please. Everyone who disagrees with Mourinho can't be called a snitch. Iker had a responsibility as the Spanish captain to ensure amicable relations with his teammates from Barcelona. Football is a sport not war as your eye-gogging manager seems to think it is.

Marcus...

i hear you about the no disrespect. None taken!

ok so First, Jozifbadman summed it up well. The doctors were simply responding to the referee's call. Hazard went down, referee ran over, looked at Hazard and deemed the situation serious enough to call the doctors. So for Mourinho to then come out guns blazing and call his medical team naive is too serious to be dismissed as "an overreaction". Mourinho is simply a petulant manager who is never at fault for any inconvenient result that his team suffers. I stand to be corrected, but there is no manager ever, alive or otherwise, who would stoop to the level of giving the medical team a dressing down for following there professional duty. And as far as I know, Mourinho is no doctor, so I'm not sure why he assumed Hazard was play acting to get a rest.

Second, I was simply pointing out a pattern. It might be coincidental or it might not, but there is no denying that there has been an issue in his 3rd season. A misunderstanding is two way..Mourinho was at fault and Arnsen was at fault. My point is still valid. You can dismiss Grant as you wish, but he had Chelsea's interest at heart. Two finals and premier league contention to the last day doesnt sound like work a sneaky bastard would do.
I can't and didn't talk about Inter, because there was NO third season..hence no pattern to follow. Mourinho was adored at Chelsea last season, but this season it's those same fans who are criticising him for this petulant reaction.
Anything could have happened at Inter.

And about RM, contribute to the discussion from an informed position please. Everyone who disagrees with Mourinho can't be called a snitch. Iker had a responsibility as the Spanish captain to ensure amicable relations with his teammates from Barcelona. Football is a sport not war as your eye-gogging manager seems to think it is.

Marcus...

i hear you about the no disrespect. None taken!

ok so First, Jozifbadman summed it up well. The doctors were simply responding to the referee's call. Hazard went down, referee ran over, looked at Hazard and deemed the situation serious enough to call the doctors. So for Mourinho to then come out guns blazing and call his medical team naive is too serious to be dismissed as "an overreaction". Mourinho is simply a petulant manager who is never at fault for any inconvenient result that his team suffers. I stand to be corrected, but there is no manager ever, alive or otherwise, who would stoop to the level of giving the medical team a dressing down for following there professional duty. And as far as I know, Mourinho is no doctor, so I'm not sure why he assumed Hazard was play acting to get a rest.

Second, I was simply pointing out a pattern. It might be coincidental or it might not, but there is no denying that there has been an issue in his 3rd season. A misunderstanding is two way..Mourinho was at fault and Arnsen was at fault. My point is still valid. You can dismiss Grant as you wish, but he had Chelsea's interest at heart. Two finals and premier league contention to the last day doesnt sound like work a sneaky bastard would do.
I can't and didn't talk about Inter, because there was NO third season..hence no pattern to follow. Mourinho was adored at Chelsea last season, but this season it's those same fans who are criticising him for this petulant reaction.
Anything could have happened at Inter.

And about RM, contribute to the discussion from an informed position please. Everyone who disagrees with Mourinho can't be called a snitch. Iker had a responsibility as the Spanish captain to ensure amicable relations with his teammates from Barcelona. Football is a sport not war as your eye-gogging manager seems to think it is. Seeking to mend bridges is not snitching, and certainly isn't grounds for what happened next. If you are talking about the leaked lineups, i'll listen to evidence that Iker leaked it...if you got any!

Marcus2011 9 years ago Edited
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

@datguy

Clearly you need to follow football more closely . There were many instances and cases where managers had argument with medical team . Example , Pep Guardiola just recently pushing out whole Bayerns physio team who has been there for almost 40 years !!!! Hey not 2-3 years but exactly to say 38 years !! Hey where was the outrage of the brainless football fans ? Yeaa because that is Guardiola media is not interested in him that much , not like in Mourinho who is more interesting and controversial . Because Mourinho is the best that and best will always be target for hate . Just like Sir Alex Ferguson used to be hated . I recall few who ever liked Ferguson until he retired .

Just watch the video again of his interview . He simply stated that he was not happy about medical team running on to the field and leaving his squad with 9 men . We can say yes he overreacted but man has the point to be frustrated . It is his job on the line . Eva Carneiro was hired by Villa boas and now she has seen him gone then Di Matteo , then Benitez and now she is under Mourinho. Bosses change but she stays .

Who is Eva ? She is basically no body if speaking cruelly and corporate way . She is doctor . Tons of doctors who will take her place . She is back room staff .

She blew it out of proportion by going in public thanking fans with support thus antagonizing fans towards Jose , her boss . That is unethical and frankly speaking stupid . You think LVG would ever tolerate this ? Lvg would have fired her on the spot !

Plus , i am starting to think maybe Eva and Jose playing another physiological game because no one talks about how poor our players were during Swansea match ...

Two finals and premier league contention to the last day doesnt sound like work a sneaky bastard would do.

Yeah two finals where he could not prepare team properly . We had much better team than United or Spurs ( even with Ronaldo) . Our team was machine build to be successful on it is own . With little management , few additional tactics and right motivation our players knew exactly what they had to do on the field . Only one since Jose knew exactly how to manage it was Guss Hidink . Grant did not know crap and did do crap !! He was there because of Roman . He just carried on and only gave few basic instructions he learned from Jose , but nothing smart to change the match and push Chelsea for victory . Had Jose stayed we would have won CL in 08 if not treble with such team . That same team carried on and won us 2012 CL . Those veterans playing some what similar style since 2004 gave final push for title . Team that was assembled by jose . No wonder He took us apart in 2010 with Inter , because we were same team that he left us . He created us and he destroyed us .

Mourinho was adored at Chelsea last season, but this season it's those same fans who are criticising him for this petulant reaction.

Fck those fans . Real Chelsea supporters always show support to our manager and players no matter what happens ! Even fat Benitez who never deserved it got support from loyal Chelsea supporters .

  • If you are talking about the leaked lineups, i'll listen to evidence that Iker leaked it...if you got any!*

He told his girlfriend , reporter , about tensions in locker room and with Ronaldo . That is completely unprofessional and betrayal of the squad . You are captain of the team . Tell me which manager ever approved leakes from locker room , problems between players or between manager or players ?

Even Ronaldo came out criticizing Cassillas girlfriend . Mate, just search in google news you will find tons of info , if you just recently started following football nothing wrong with this , but I can't just sit and chew basic events out to you . Honestly , not being sarcastic . So , don't take this wrong way . Some people have to start somewhere , but keep up with news before making such claims .

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@datguy

Clearly you need to follow football more closely . There were many instances and cases where managers had argument with medical team . Example , Pep Guardiola just recently pushing out whole Bayerns physio team who has been there for almost 40 years !!!! Hey not 2-3 years but exactly to say 38 years !! Hey where was the outrage of the brainless football fans ? Yeaa because that is Guardiola media is not interested in him that much , not like in Mourinho who is more interesting and controversial . Because Mourinho is the best that and best will always be target for hate . Just like Sir Alex Ferguson used to be hated . I recall few who ever liked Ferguson until he retired .

Just watch the video again of his interview . He simply stated that he was not happy about medical team running on to the field and leaving his squad with 9 men . We can say yes he overreacted but man has the point to be frustrated . It is his job on the line . Eva Carneiro was hired by Villa boas and now she has seen him gone then Di Matteo , then Benitez and now she is under Mourinho. Bosses change but she stays .

Who is Eva ? She is basically no body if speaking cruelly and corporate way . She is doctor . Tons of doctors who will take her place . She is back room staff .

She blew it out of proportion by going in public thanking fans with support thus antagonizing fans towards Jose , her boss . That is unethical and frankly speaking stupid . You think LVG would ever tolerate this ? Lvg would have fired her on the spot !

Plus , i am starting to think maybe Eva and Jose playing another physiological game because no one talks about how poor our players were during Swansea match ...

Two finals and premier league contention to the last day doesnt sound like work a sneaky bastard would do.

Yeah two finals where he could not prepare team properly . We had much better team than United or Spurs ( even with Ronaldo) . Our team was machine build to be successful on it is own . With little management , few additional tactics and right motivation our players knew exactly what they had to do on the field . Only one since Jose knew exactly how to manage it was Guss Hidink . Grant did not know crap and did do crap !! He was there because of Roman . He just carried on and only gave few basic instructions he learned from Jose , but nothing smart to change the match and push Chelsea for victory . Had Jose stayed we would have won CL in 08 if not treble with such team . That same team carried on and won us 2012 CL . Those veterans playing some what similar style since 2004 gave final push for title . Team that was assembled by jose . No wonder He took us apart in 2010 with Inter , because we were same team that he left us . He created us and he destroyed us .

Mourinho was adored at Chelsea last season, but this season it's those same fans who are criticising him for this petulant reaction.

Fck those fans . Real Chelsea supporters always show support to our manager and players no matter what happens ! Even fat Benitez who never deserved it got support from loyal Chelsea supporters .

  • If you are talking about the leaked lineups, i'll listen to evidence that Iker leaked it...if you got any!*

He told his girlfriend , reporter , about tensions in locker room and with Ronaldo . That is completely unprofessional and betrayal of the squad . You are captain of the team . Tell me which manager ever approved leakes from locker room , problems between players or between manager or players ?

Even Ronaldo came out criticizing Cassillas girlfriend . Mate, just search in google news you will find tons of info , if you just recently started following football nothing wrong with this , but I can't just sit and chew basic events out to you . Honestly , not being sarcastic . So , don't this wrong way . Some people have to start somewhere , but keep up with news before making such claims .

Dynastian98 9 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

Sometimes I wonder if the Mourinho-Casillas feud would have ever started if Ms. Casillas kept her mouth shut...

Eva is a doctor, first and foremost, and her primary job is not to make sure the team wins. It is the make sure Hazard is okay. Hazard was clearly down for a while, enough to make the referee request the doctors to come forward. When the doctors decided that Hazard was not okay to be playing, they took him off. Jose was furious, a reaction that is justifiable because it is in the heat of the moment, and was frustrated because he now had only 8 outfield players on a counter-attack. Criticizing Eva for doing her job, however, was classless from Mourinho. Demoting her was further example of Mourinho's childish behavior.

Believing that the demotion of a doctor will result in Mourinho's departure is premature, to be frank. We do not know the effects Eva's demotion will have on the club and its hierarchy, but Mourinho does not look like leaving any time soon unless bigger incidents occur in the future. The media is taking this too seriously.

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