Messi,imo undeserved, he has not been that bad, but not this cups best player by a long shot, invissible half of the games

discuss,,,

He is talking about the award, if you have something personnal with me go ahead....

Im passed the furious stage, and Im more into the depressed one now. It just doesnt make sense to have Messi as THE best player in the 2014 world cup.. Just look at the previous winners and compare their campaign to Messi's

Kempes - 1978
Rossi - 1982
Maradona 1986
Schillaci - 1990
Romario - 1994
Ronaldo - 1998
Kahn - 2002
FREAKING ZIDANE - 2006
Forlan - 2010

Just like Dynastian said.. People will look at this stats in the future and will probably think Messi did something similar to what all those other legends did to become the player of the WC. Thats why Im more depressed than angry right now, stats or awards like this define the history of a certain era, and by having this awards given to players who didnt deserve them, history would be misleading and then misunderstood by those who didnt live it.

also, a little off topic, Is Neuer a fair and deserving winner of the golden glove or not? trying no to be biased I think Navas did way better...

quote Tiki:
*“After the game we put in, we deserved a little more. It’s painful to end on the losing side after playing like we did because we were so close to the penalty shoot-out. It’s been a while since Argentina has got this far – we haven’t got past the quarter-finals in other editions. We’re upset at not being able to win the game, and there will be a lot of people giving us a hard time about it.

“Germany had control of the ball but we created the best chances. We were a little unlucky not to have put those chances away,” he continued. “We had three clear attempts: mine, El Pipa’s and Rodrigo’s but the ball didn’t go in. Now we have to look forward to the future”.*

is all that^ related to the Golden Ball? no. so then, please, as i said: stay on topic.

@Tuanis:
"Just like Dynastian said.. People will look at this stats in the future and will probably think Messi did something similar to what all those other legends did to become the player of the WC. Thats why Im more depressed than angry right now, stats or awards like this define the history of a certain era, and by having this awards given to players who didnt deserve them, history would be misleading and then misunderstood by those who didnt live it"

exactly.

Well, this was a joke. James Rodriguez or Arjen Robben.

Robben and James would have nailed it, German players DONT. They are just too strong as a team, I know it's not their fault, but when we look at the Netherlands, no one here expected us to even pass the group. We missed our most important player Strootman and another creative one Van De Vart.

Colombia is a solid team but James was really outstanding.

Beside Messi (who was less impressive than the other two), they are those that dragged their lame teams up.

Diandre Yedlin.

But no, seriously, Messi didn't deserve it, and I think he knew it too. It's why he couldn't give a rat's ass about it when he was presented with it. He had to stand up there in front of the entire world, accepting this trophy that no-one is going to agree with, having just been beaten in the World Cup final and perhaps losing his chance to ever live up to El Diego.

I too feel sad for him. My heart would rather have had him lift the trophy, for the good of football. But Germany deserved it, and in Gotze's goal we were given a splendid piece of football art; well worthy of winning the greatest trophy of them all.

An emotional moment. An emotional match. An emotional tournament, and perhaps the last great tournament we shall witness, until we figure out who can get it in 2026.

My pick for player of the tournament is Schweinsteiger, and I agree with Neuer as Golden Glove winner.

@Tuanis

Exactly ! All of them were leaders and winners ! And comparison of their campaign with Messi is just disrespectful to all those legends .

Here is what real captain does when it matters the most

and his last minute freekick was just selfish .

@lodatz

"It's why he couldn't give a rat's ass about it when he was presented with it"

It is like he is a spoiled child , and FIFA , parents , trying to throw him gifts instead of his most wanted present .
If he thinks he does not deserve than he should man up and give it to James Rodriguez or refuse from trophy .
What makes me mad is that other players would have been thrilled to have a chance of winning Golden Ball . And he responds with arrogant after match interview comments : " Nothing can console him " .

Where is media bashing at him ?

What I do not understand why was Ronaldo made mockery off all over the news and internet when he won third place or did not win it against Messi ? All the cameras would zoom in on him trying to find glimpse of bitterness and then bash him for a whole year about how arrogant he is for twitching his mouth a bit . And all of the fans around the world like a sheep would do exactly what media wanted them to do.

It is mind boggling how media have been creating this legacy and hype around this player .

I personally always thought Messi is is the arrogant and disrespectful player . Two faced person . He seems like a person to me who would smile call you friend and then back stab you . ( Ibra and Villa knows it )

I don't know is it because Messi supports Israel and Ronaldo supports Palestinians ? Lets be honest media is majorly owned by Zionists corporations and supporters .

Do not get me wrong he is fantastic player but to be considered as nicest guy and greatest ever or even to be in top 5 greats , please save a breath . It is a joke to me . Even if he won World Cup , I would still not put him in my top 5 . And him winning Golden Ball is not going to put him there neither .

I understand your point Marcus about the consolation trophy, Muller deseved it, 2 nd world cup with 5 goals and a huge contribution to the win, but yes fifa is trying to give a consolation.
Messi isnt Ronaldo, he wasnt happy of the trophy at all, and he is introverted person, he isnt a leader outside the pitch, Mascerano is the true leader of Argentina, but it doesnt change the fact that Messi is the best player of modern Football...
Beware some people here are banning people for just being off topic, or maybe im the only one pointed...

@Marcus: uhmn, your opinion on Messi's characteristic is quite different from a lot of us. I completely disagree with your opinion. *"*Ibra and Villa knows it" appears to me as you are blinded by your hates, you just cant stand him and everything he does is wrong.

The picture you showed doesnt mean anything, it just means some are actively like to push up the crowd (normally with strong characteristic), and some are the quiet one. They are both fighters, but in different way.

The quiet leaders, captains, they can voice their opinions at a time they think it's best, they do their talking on the pitch and make other players feel confident, he's always there for the team and lead them up in difficult time.

They are normally the supportive kind, and not the spirit creaming kind.

This is how much golden boot meant to him

Yeah indeed, it's really nice to see. Anyway, I completely agree James was incredibly outstanding and among the 3 best of the WC.

James Rodriguez should've won both Golden Ball and Golden Boot. Head and shoulders above everyone else at the World Cup. Schweinsteiger, Kroos, and Robben are also excellent picks for the Golden Ball.

Diego Maradona: 'Messi? I would give him heaven if possible,' Maradona said. 'But it’s not right when someone wins something that he shouldn’t have won just because of some marketing plan.'

The golden award is given by TGA : Tecnical group of Fifa who give a name few minutes only after the game.

There is not really possible discussion on three of the first four winners, Paolo Rossi in 1982, Diego Maradona in 1986 and Romario in 1994. 1990 Salvatore Schillaci became the first Ballon d'Or World Cup without being crowned with his team. The Italian finished top scorer in the tournament, but Lothar Matthäus, titrated with Germany and elected France Football Ballon d'Or a few months later, seemed still more for the trophy.

Since 1998, the final seems to have been overshadowed by the TSG. Ronaldo had obtained it in 1998 despite his failure in the final for the reasons we know, Oliver Kahn in 2002 despite his mistake on the first goal of Brazil, Zinedine Zidane in 2006, despite his expulsion against Italy and Diego Forlan had not reached the final in 2010. 2014 edition follows this trend so that the final game is not taken into account when determining the best player A paradox because it is the most important competition appointment ( the final ). Although Arjen Robben (3rd behind Thomas Müller) and James Rodriguez have made ​​spirited winners.

Composition of the Technical Study Group for the FIFA World Cup FIFA Brazil 2014:

Gerard Houllier (France)
At the helm of Liverpool, he won the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup in 2001, before win championships France with Olympique Lyonnais. France coach from 1992 to 1993 he was assistant Aimé Jacquet at the FIFA World Cup 1998 ™.

Raúl Arias (Mexico)
As a player, he won the championship of Mexico from 1982 to 1983 with Puebla. Arias has two selections with the Tri against Canada and Martinique.

Gabriel CALDERON (Argentina)
Calderon played the World Cup FIFA 1982 Spain World Cup FIFA 1990 Italy Argentina. He coached the SM Caen, Lausanne Sports and Al Ittihad and Al Hilal (Saudi Arabia), Bani Yas (United Arab Emirates) and recently Betis. He was also in command selections Saudi Arabia, Oman and Bahrain.

Ricki Herbert (New Zealand)
He was one of the stars of the New Zealand selection, with whom he played in the FIFA World Cup Spain 1982. He was the coach of the All Whites in South Africa 2010.

Abdel HUSSEIN (Sudan)
As a player, Hussein won the championship and Cup of Egypt more than a dozen times; he also won the Champions League CAF. Shatta led all teams Al Ahly youth from 1983 to 2003. Between 1992 and 1995 he was in charge of the first.

KWOK Ka Ming (Hong Kong)
Kwok Ka Ming has 96 selections with Hong Kong. After hanging up his boots in 1979, he took charge of the youth teams in Hong Kong, before presiding over the destinies of A in 1982 at the age of 33.

LUPESCU Ioan (Romania)
Lupescu has played for several clubs in Romania, Germany, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Capped 74 times, he scored six goals for Romania. He played in the FIFA World Cup, Italy 1990 and the FIFA World Cup USA 1994, where Romanians have reached the quarterfinals. Lupescu also participated in the 1996 and 2000 editions of the UEFA EURO.

Gines Melendez SOTOS (Spain)
Melendez Sotos has long been the coordinator of the center of Albacete training before joining the coaching staff selections young Spanish. He won numerous international competitions with the U-17 and U-19.

Tsuneyasu Miyamoto (Japan)
Miyamoto played the FIFA U-20 World Cup and the Olympic Football Tournament 2000. As a central defender, he was captain of Japan at the FIFA World Cup 2002. Retained the armband during the Cup AFC Asian Cup 2004 and World Cup 2006.

Sunday Oliseh (Nigeria)
Selected 63 times with Nigeria Oliseh played for big clubs like Ajax, Borussia Dortmund and Juventus. Between its participation in the World Cup FIFA 1994 and 1998, he won the gold medal at the Atlanta Olympics in 1996.

Mixu Paatelainen (Finland)
Finnish former international, Paatelainen is now in control of the selection. In 70 games with the A, he scored 18 goals, making him the 13th most capped player and the fifth leading scorer in the history of the Scandinavian selection.

Jaime RODRĺGUEZ (El Salvador)
Rodriguez has evolved into professional clubs in El Salvador, Mexico and Germany as well as Japan and Finland. He played 15 qualifying matches for the FIFA World Cup and three meetings his country at the FIFA World Cup Spain 1982.

Theodore Whitmore (Jamaica)
With over a hundred selections, Whitmore scored 24 goals with the Jamaican selection. He was one of the frames Reggae Boyz who played the World Cup FIFA 1998. He served two terms at the head of A Jamaican and qualified his team for the penultimate round of qualifying for Brazil 2014 .

Translated from eurosport.fr and Fifa.fr

@Marcus
"I personally always thought Messi is is the arrogant and disrespectful player . Two faced person . He seems like a person to me who would smile call you friend and then back stab you . ( Ibra and Villa knows it ) I don't know is it because Messi supports Israel and Ronaldo supports Palestinians ? Lets be honest media is majorly owned by Zionists corporations and supporters."

Man i couldn't put it in better words. And this is the truth around the matter..

@Salahdin@Marcus Messi doesnt support Israel, he went with Barça in Israel for a paid tour, yes iam ashamed of that Rossell gave Israel Barça image for 2 days, it doesnt mean Messi agrees with the crimes commited by Israelli.
And yes Ronaldo is a big Palestinian supporter, and he got all my respect for that....
( Back on topic ? ).

^yes, guys stay on topic please.

@Marcus
+1