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The Ultimate Comparison #5 (Neymar & Bale vs. Ronaldo & Messi)
Dynastian98 11 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

The Ultimate Comparison #5 --> Neymar and Bale vs. Ronaldo and Messi
(Just how far ahead are the legends from the legends-in-making?)

Barcelona and Real Madrid have shocked the football world with big money buys this summer. Neymar, who had only one year remaining on his contract, has been bought for 57 M Euros, and Gareth Bale has been bought for more money than Ronaldo had cost Madrid (100 M Euros for Bale, 94 for Ronaldo). Lionel Messi is indeed homegrown, but Neymar's wages exceed Messi's at Barcelona. Likewise, Bale gets paid much more than Ronaldo at the moment.

So does Bale deserve a 300-k-pound-a-week wage? Does Neymar deserve 40 M Euros added to his regular wages to be with Los Merengues? Are they really going to be that much better than Ronaldo and Messi, the two of the greatest players in history? Let's find out.

NOTE: This is merely opinionated. You can feel free to "adjust" my opinion in the comments. It would be appreciated if comments are positive! Thank you. :)

Neymar vs. Messi

Speed
Messi - 9/10
Neymar - 8.5/10

Neymar is rather quick on his feet, but Messi's speed is comparable with Maradona's.

Strength
Messi - 7/10
Neymar - 5/10

Messi may be shorter than Neymar, but the way he uses what little strength he has to ride all those challenges coming his way is very impressive. Neymar is much more fragile though. He has yet to build up more muscle so that he doesn't get knocked over as frequently.

Stamina
Messi - 8/10
Neymar - 6.5/10

Messi tends to fade as games go on, but remember that he has had growth hormones artificially inserted into his body, so it probably isn't his fault. Neymar, on the other hand, has only played in the Brazilian league, and in La Liga, tends to be more of a "super sub" rather than a full 90 minute player. He needs to build his stamina much more.

Dribbling and Ball Control
Messi - 10/10
Neymar - 8.5/10

No explanation needed for Messi. Neymar is a talented dribbler, but needs more consistency with his dribbling. Often, he finds himself shut down by a defender before he can even take a second touch.

Finishing
Messi - 9.5/10
Neymar - 8/10

Messi scores more goals in a more difficult league than where Neymar made his reputation. Simple as that.

Heading
Messi - 7.5/10
Neymar - 5.5/10

Neymar doesn't head the ball much at all, but one interesting fact to know about Messi is that out of all his La Liga goals so far, 5% have been headers. For a man of 5'7" to score 5% of his goals from headers (and note down that Messi scores a LOT of goals), it is very very admirable.

Set Pieces
Messi - 8.5/10
Neymar - 7/10

Neymar has scored a few FK's before, but Messi is much better at them. Messi also seems to miss penalties quite so often, therefore bringing down my original rating of "9" for him to a "8.5".

Work Ethic
Messi - 8/10
Neymar - 9.5/10

What is admirable about Neymar is that despite being talented from the very beginning, talent alone did not bring him so far. An immense amount of hard work was put in by him to come to a club like Barcelona for such a demanding fee. Messi does work quite hard, but not anywhere as hard as Neymar.

Attitude
Messi - 9.5/10
Neymar - 7.5/10

Messi has an extremely positive attitude on the pitch. He hasn't gotten sent off in many years, and doesn't whine and cry when he gets fouled. Neymar, as we all know, has a knack for the theatrics, but hopefully will cut that out soon. Slight improvement in behavior made me judge him as a 7.5, something people might disagree on.

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Dynastian98 11 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

Bale vs. Ronaldo

Speed
Bale - 9.5/10
Ronaldo - 9.5/10

Scarily fast, the both of them. Ronaldo can run 100 meters in 10 seconds, for those who didn't know. World record by Usain Bolt is 9.58.

Strength
Ronaldo - 8/10
Bale - 7.5/10

Ronaldo is of a more stocky build, but neither Ronaldo nor Bale are relatively "strong". The do fall over quite easily from challenges, but can ride them when they really feel like it. But since they just let the defenders hit them down most of the time, I'm not compelled to overrate them here.

Stamina
Ronaldo - 9/10
Bale - 9.5/10

Bale is a non-stop sprinting freak. Ronaldo is also a very capable athlete.

Dribbling and Ball Control
Ronaldo - 9/10
Bale - 8.5/10

Bale has great dribbling skills, but relies on his monstrous speed more than anything when dribbling past defenders. Ronaldo has terrific flair and every trick up his sleeve, but opts to use short passes nowadays in order to retain possession of the ball. But when he does choose to dribble, he puts on one hell of a show.

Finishing
Ronaldo - 9.5/10
Bale - 8/10

Ronaldo scores more than Bale, simple as that.

Heading
Ronaldo - 9.5/10
Bale - 6/10

Bale isn't known for scoring goals with his head, but Ronaldo scores at least 10 goals with his head every year. Three of his five goals this season actually came as headers.

Set Pieces
Ronaldo - 9.5/10
Bale - 8.5/10

What makes Ronaldo so high is not just his ability to TAKE a FK, but his ability on the RECEIVING end of one. He is lethal on the other end of a FK. Not to mention that his penalty record is tremendously high. Bale is also very good at taking FK's, but isn't as proficient from penalties or on receiving ends of set pieces.

Vision
Ronaldo - 8/10
Bale - 7/10

What is criminally underrated for Ronaldo is his tremendous creativity with his passing skills. He has yet to use them with full proficiency though, but still managed to create the second-most chances last season for a Real Madrid player (only behind Ozil). Bale is also a decent crosser and passer, but is not near Ronaldo's level. A Bale two years ago would be much more dedicated towards crossing and making plays than a Bale now.

Work Ethic
Ronaldo - 9.5/10
Bale - 9/10

Ronaldo and Bale both put in tremendous amounts of work into their games. It is very much unappreciated in this world just how much time Cristiano Ronaldo spends training.

Attitude
Ronaldo - 9/10
Bale - 8/10

Bale doesn't cause much trouble, but he has been caught diving blatantly on a couple of occasions. Ronaldo has improved his attitude tremendously, but a recent red card against Atletico pushes his rating down from what would otherwise be an almost flawless record.

Conclusion
Ronaldo - 90.5/100
Bale - 82.5/100

Messi - 86.5/100
Neymar - 74.5/100

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Dynastian98 11 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

I forgot to include VISION for Neymar and Messi. I did though include it in the conclusion. For those interested, I rated Neymar's vision at 8.5 and Messi's at 9.5.

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tiki_taka 11 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

Biased ratings imo.

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awais007 11 years ago
Chelsea, Pakistan 178 922

Biased Rating
you say Ronaldo > Messi (Please Kill me)

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awais007 11 years ago
Chelsea, Pakistan 178 922

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quikzyyy 11 years ago
Arsenal 429 9010

again, again again. Barcelona fans or "fans" starting fight with Ronaldo vs Messi.. *GRABS POPCORN*
btw Messi heading 7.5 and Bale heading 6? haha

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FredTilson 11 years ago
Manchester City, France 61 769

@ Awais - Fernando Torres has a higher trophy haul than Ronaldo in that pic, I presume by your logic, he is a better player than Ronaldo? I am not disputing that Messi is a better player than Ronaldo but using the team's trophy count to judge a players ability is naive and pointless.

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DonAndres 11 years ago
Barcelona 62 1138

^ It is too different that what you are saying.I agree that trophies won by the team is not the main criteria but he didn't said that Tello is better than Cristiano because he(or his team if you want) has more trophies.It is about Leo.That means that is different because Messi was the main reason that those trophies were won!He lead the team to glory.
I say again that this is not the main criteria but when talking about players like Cristiano and Leo,trophies give a small advantage :)

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AlexBatak 11 years ago
Chelsea, Italy 204 2707

Has anyone even read what Dynastian said above or I was the only one? "NOTE: This is merely opinionated. You can feel free to "adjust" my opinion in the comments. It would be appreciated if comments are positive! Thank you. :)"

+1 for the time spent making this thread, good work mate. Even though I think Neymar is not yet there, but he can prove me wrong this season. :)

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Iraqi_Madridista 11 years ago
Real Madrid 33 1388

I feel sorry for Lionel fans. The thing that makes me love CR7 more than Messi , is that CR is more complete on the pitch. There are alot of things that Cristiano has wich Messi cant do.

CR7>>Messi

Bale>>Neymar

Very Simple ^_^

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ikoiko 11 years ago
Arsenal, Spain 53 853

@Iraqi_Madridista, I agree. CR7 seems to always have an outstanding head of hair. +1

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Iraqi_Madridista 11 years ago
Real Madrid 33 1388

@ikoiko I agree , Arsenal still didnt win a trophy in 8-9 years. +5

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ikoiko 11 years ago
Arsenal, Spain 53 853

where are my +5?

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tiki_taka 11 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

Cr7 is better than Messi in a parallel world, not in this world. We're not talking about the best athlete but the best player, and from i have seen, Messi is smarter than Cr 7, and that makes all the diference.
Cr7 is the best athlete in Football, but surely not the best player.

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Lodatz 11 years ago
Tottenham Hotspur, England 150 4992

Hang on, Dynast. In your head to head comparison between Messi and Ronaldo, didn't you have Messi come out on top? How then can you have Messi with a lower score in this one? O.o

If I'm remembering wrongly, lemme know.

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