1. Toby Alderweireld (Tottenham) 84

2. Phillipe Coutinho (Liverpool) 84

3. Pedro (Chelsea) 84

4. Laurent Koscielny (Arsenal) 84

5. Chris Smalling (Man United) 85

6. Ilkay Gundogan (Man City) 85

7. Joe Hart (Man City) 85

8. Nicolas Otamendi (Man City) 85

9. Willian (Chelsea) 85

10. John Terry (Chelsea) 85

11. Santi Cazorla (Arsenal) 85

12. Bastian Schweinsteiger (Man United) 86

13. Wayne Rooney (Man United) 86

14. Yaya Toure (Man City) 86

15. Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) 86

16. Diego Costa (Chelsea) 86

17. Hugo Lloris (Tottenham) 87

18. Paul Pogba (Man United) 87

19. Henrikh Mkhitaryan (Man United) 87

20. David Silva (Man City) 87

21. Cesc Fabregas (Chelsea) 87

22. Kevin de Bruyne (Man City) 88

23. Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) 88

24. Sergio Aguero (Man City) 89

25. Thibaut Courtois (Chelsea) 89

26. Eden Hazard (Chelsea) 89

27. Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Man United) 90

28. David De Gea (Man United) 91

Where's Cech? Is he lower than 84?

Courtois rating is absolute garbage. De Gea and Cech are both better than him by a decent amount imo, and he did nothing last season to merit a three point increase.

Are we sure these are real? Because Bastian is an 86, +1 from last season, which in my mind is impossible.

I disagree with that statement. A goalie's stats will undoubtely be hugely affected by the defense of the team. Chelseas defense last year sucked in comparison to what we're used to see. Does that make him a worse goalie? Nop. However, he was injured, which might have affected his performance. With all that said I agree, Cech is easily on pair or even better than Courtois..

and is Pedro even worth 84?

Toby Alderweireld (Tottenham) 84 - Should be 83 but 84 is fairly OK

Phillipe Coutinho (Liverpool) 84 - Perfect

Pedro (Chelsea) 84 - What did he do to get upgraded?

Laurent Koscielny (Arsenal) 84 - Could be 85 but 84 is fine

Chris Smalling (Man United) 85 - Never lol man. 83 max. He was good but not really better than kos even.

Ilkay Gundogan (Man City) 85 - 84 would be more fair but 85 is actually ok.

Joe Hart (Man City) 85 - every goalkeeper should be 2 ratings less. I think they increased the formula for goal keepers lets just say it is 83.

Nicolas Otamendi (Man City) 85 - No man. How can he get upgraded. 83 or 82.

Willian (Chelsea) 85 - wasn't great did well compared to other chelsea players. Not compared to others in the league. Should only get 83 really.

John Terry (Chelsea) 85 - Dont know how hes been

Santi Cazorla (Arsenal) 85 - Dunno how he was

Bastian Schweinsteiger (Man United) 86 - Lol 84 if not 83 man.

Wayne Rooney (Man United) 86 - Shud have same as Schweini 84 or even better would be 83

Yaya Toure (Man City) 86 - Shud go down to 84 not go up!

Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) 86 - Good.

Diego Costa (Chelsea) 86 - Deserved never shud have been dowgraded before.

Hugo Lloris (Tottenham) 87 - So assuming each goalie is 2 higher than what they should be he should get 88.

Paul Pogba (Man United) 87 - Spot on.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan (Man United) 87 - Bit overboard. 85 is more than enough.

David Silva (Man City) 87 - He hasnt been absolutely terrid like hazard and I think he'll actually do good next season 87 is ok.

Cesc Fabregas (Chelsea) 87 - Deserves 86 maybe 85

Kevin de Bruyne (Man City) 88 - Great.

Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) 88 - Nice

Sergio Aguero (Man City) 89 - 90 maybe he is actually pretty underrated.

Thibaut Courtois (Chelsea) 89 - Should be 88 Based on pther keepers he hasnt been as bad as people make out.

Eden Hazard (Chelsea) 89 - Wouldnt dowgrade him for one terrible season.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Man United) 90 - 91 maybe coz Zlatan is the boss and Zlatan chooses his own rating.

David De Gea (Man United) 91 - Spot on. Btw neuer would be 92 rated based on the + 2 rule.

Nice one @liomessi10

Btw,

Yeah, Cech should be in there.
Pedro should be 80 or something.
Carzola should be 83.
Bastian: 83
Costa: 84 max
Toure: 84 he was pretty shitty
Hazard: 87 if he bounce back to how he was, the next patch would see an upgrade, now, yeah a downgrade

Hazard cant really go below 88 for one bad season. Costa should be on 86 he never should have been dowgraded in the first place.

De Gea deserves his rating but I have no idea why Hazard hasn't been downgraded.

Schweini and Terry both need to be 1 or 2 points less, IMO.

Yaya Toure was terrible, along with Pedro.

Smalling has done enough to deserve his rating (no bias here)

This makes up for our bad ratings we got when we were champions.

Honestly don't know why Silva got downgraded. Just because he didn't get any special cards (except Futtie) doesn't mean he deserves downgrade. Hope he gets atleast one IF this season. Glad to see Ozil on 88 c:

And did Alderweireld really get +3 upgrade? Didn't expect this from EA.

it's not official!

Kind of obvious.

Well here is the first batch. Defenders and payet are overrated.

http://www.futhead.com/17/players/?display=cards&bin_platform=ps

On the contrary, I think it's great we have a 90-rated defender again. That that defender is Boateng and not Silva is a crime though.

How is Rakitic an 87.

David Silva is not a LM.

Marcelo got an increase he deserved years ago.

Payet is overrated af

The idea that Muller is tied for the 5th best player at Bayern with Hummels, Robben and Vidal is so wrong I don't even have words to describe it.

Even tho I like Schweinsteiger, 86? Why not give him 96?
Terry 85 and Koscielny 84? :)))))))))))))))) pass the weed EA