I expect a lot of drama in these 48 hours. It's not going to end well :/

@TG If I were Mourinho with all respect to Manchester United and their history, I wouldn't join them even if they made an offer. When Jose Mourinho came to the EPL he dominated the first 2 seasons that Sir. Alex and Arsene Wenger couldn't do much about it. I wouldn't join because It has been always Chelsea for Jose Mourinho it's his home and where he belongs the most and where all the fans love him. Manchester United fans can talk for years, but that won't change anything for Chelsea supporters. even though I never liked his arrogance but I have to back him up in every decision he make, He knows better. he is one of the best managers in the world and for Chelsea supporters he is the best manager in the world.

It's been 24 hours so far I think.

@TheGame: Are you kidding me? I provided you two sources, and I can offer you two more. Both before SAF's announcement and one I believe before the ManUtd - Real Madrid game. They prove everything about Mourinho not being offered a job, as number 1, you have no evidence. Get that in your head. And number 2, I have four sources proving Mourinho was always coming back to Chelsea. As for Mourinho talking about Rooney, thats what managers do to try to get a player. It's business and in fact, Moyes started this issue by publicly saying Rooney was second choice to him. What sort of manager says that to one of his most top paid, and best player? Now let's talk about your hero, Ferguson.

The man, the legend, the hero of Manchester United: Sir Alex Ferguson. The one you see as such a saint, but in all honesty, he is as bad, or even worse than Mourinho.

In 2008-2009, Ferguson constantly criticized Madrid for tapping up Ronaldo when in fact, he's done it twice or more. One was with Cantona and the other was with Rooney. And he did it with Rooney against your 'Chosen One', David Moyes. He's a freaking hypocrite. Just like Mourinho. His hypocrisy is even clearer when it comes to Fergie time. Manchester United losing 1-0 and only 3 minutes added time? Too little says red nose! Manchester United winning and 3 minutes of added time? Too much says your hero!

Secondly, Ferguson is a menace to multiple referees. When referee Jeff Winter gave Roy Keane a red card, he wasn't assigned a United game for the following two years. Winter later noted that the Football Association (run by a United fan, David Gill) “is reticent to give Manchester United games to referees that Ferguson has criticized in the past”. Oh, and let’s look at Alan Wiley. Fergie tantalized Wiley for apparently being “fat and unfit” after his team could only draw with Sunderland. Wiley “agreed” to retire at the end of the season.

Here's another thing you probably never expected to hear. Remember Jaap Stam? Former CB for Manchester United? Well he has an autobiography with a lot of un-SAF like things about your saint.

"Stam claimed Sir Alex had illegally tapped him up and ordered United players to dive in European games, called the Neville brothers a 'pair of busy little ****s', and branded David Beckham so thick he'd never go on Mastermind. Within a week Stam had been sold to Lazio, despite being the best defender in the world at the time, a decision that probably cost United the league that season."

But that's not all. Ferguson throws, tantrums, yells at referees, picks on clubs, fights with managers, acts like a toddler, and yet still you see him as a better person than Mourinho. You know how you said Mourinho doesn't admit defeat? Bullsh*t. Mourinho had admitted defeat before, and especially against Barcelona.

"But it is not difficult for me to swallow. What's difficult to swallow is when you lose a game because you have hit the post or the referee has been bad. I have left here in that state before with Chelsea and Inter Milan but that was not the case tonight. It is easy for me to take because it is fair. "We played very, very badly and they were fantastic. We gifted them two goals that were bordering on the ridiculous. It is our own fault."
(That was the 5-0 loss)

And despite all of Ferguson's antics, he still has one good trait that everyone hates him for. He is a winner. He fights for his team, he's won everything, he makes antics, he is cocky, he is a hypocrite, he is hated by many. And do you know who is the only other manager in the world who is as much as a winner (and exactly) like SAF? JOSE MOURINHO. Get that in your head, the best manager replacement was not Moyes, it was Mourinho. So keep thinking Mourinho is the worst manager ever and United should never hire. Keep blocking that from entering your head. Because you know what, I don't even give a sh*t if SAF rejected him or if he didn't. Your loss was our gain, and you'll see why Manchester United missed out on the best replacement for Ferguson. When we win the Premier League, be it this or the next season, as Manchester United's future is in uncertainty as your 'Chosen One' might not fulfill his role as Ferguson's successor, just remember one thing. You don't know what happens behind the football, and you certainly don't know that Mourinho would have been the best thing to have happened to Manchester United after Ferguson had he joined them.

Carefree.

@Vendetta, I see a lot of whining and not any real substance to what you wrote. Either you skip sentences when you read my comment or you cannot interpret simple writing. I simply do not care about the sources you provide, as none of them tell me whether Mourinho wanted the United job before SAF retired. Why the hell would Mourinho want to move to United when SAF was the manager? But I do know that he was never offered the job as Ferguson hand-picked Moyes as his successor labeling him as a CANDIDATE with "strong work ethic and integrity". Meaning that he had several options and opted for Moyes. Even Sir Bobby Charlton, whom I have no doubt SAF asked for advice, said "Mourinho is a really good coach but that's as far as I would go, really.” That is the issue at hand. The thing I disagree with you is when you say "In fact, you'd be lucky if you had Mourinho as SAF's successor", when actually people who know more about football and appealing traits in a manager thought otherwise.

What Moyes said about Rooney was completely misinterpreted. He meant Rooney would play in RVP's position if he gets injured. This by no means that Rooney would not start. He would get to play a deeper role though. And why would that not be the case? Rooney's best position is already playing behind a striker SS/AM role as he always likes to drop deeper. We already had this discussion. Why the hell would there even be a dispute between who the better center forward is? RVP is much more effective up front.

BTW thanks for providing the controversies involving SAF. That was unnecessary. All you had to say was that SAF protected his players, until they betrayed his trust. Why do you think SAF whined about referees or timing after the match? It was precisely to detract interest away from our players' bad performance. That's what good managers do! That is why United players fear and respect him. Mourinho generated shear hatred at Madrid. You want to keep comparing Mourinho to SAF go ahead. But that just proves you cannot see the difference between actual greatness and longevity to a cretin who had no shame or self-respect but to return to a club that once rejected him. "Your loss our gain": If you want to keep believing that it was our loss, go ahead and be completely deluded because you cannot understand that we don't want Mourinho. I have no doubt that Chelsea will regret ever bringing him back. And thanks for telling me that I cannot predict the future (in your last sentence) *facepalm*. I simply used basic reasoning from Mourinho's past to deduce that he would have been terrible for United as he, among MANY other reasons, provides no long-term assurance.

@TheGame: That's the point! It seems you're the one who cannot interpret simple writing. My previous answer was directed at your second post and it seem you are not capable of going back and seeing why I replied to you.

"when actually people who know more about football and appealing traits in a manager thought otherwise."

And once again, you give me an irrelevant answer. Do you actually KNOW the list of managers SAF was looking at? Do you know if Mourinho was rejected by SAF? The answer in case you think you're special and say yes, is no. Honestly, you keep talking about Mourinho being bitter about not taking the United job but you fail at providing any sort of truth to you're silly statement.

"What Moyes said about Rooney was completely misinterpreted. He meant Rooney would play in RVP's position if he gets injured. This by no means that Rooney would not start. He would get to play a deeper role though. And why would that not be the case? Rooney's best position is already playing behind a striker SS/AM role as he always likes to drop deeper. We already had this discussion. Why the hell would there even be a dispute between who the better center forward is? RVP is much more effective up front. "

As a ManUtd fan, I expected you to know better. Rooney has been playing as striker for ManUtd for almost all his career with them until Van Persie came. When it was Chelsea vs ManUtd in ''07, it was Rooney. That's why he wanted to bloody leave the team. Don't act dumb man, you're smarter than this. You know Rooney likes to play as a striker, and was pissed when Ferguson bought Van Persie. By the way, Rooney was just as effective upfront for United. He scored 29 league goals in the 2011/12 season. Less than RVP's record but that was enough for him to start for any team in England.

"BTW thanks for providing the controversies involving SAF. That was unnecessary."

Oh really? Unnecessary?

"Almost NO ONE at United wanted Mourinho as our manager as he'd probably ruin the reputation of our great club with his antics".

It seems you're having trouble remembering your own comments. Like I said, don't act dumb. You're smarter than that.

"All you had to say was that SAF protected his players,"

Foul-mouthing referees, picking on clubs/managers, and having tantrums with his own players means protecting his players? O.o You sure have a weird way of thinking how managers protect their players. Anyway, let's continue the rest of that sentence.

"until they betrayed his trust"

Because the Neville brothers, David Beckham and Stamp all betrayed him? You keep talking about me not reading your comments, but it seems you're the one not reading comments properly. In a previous post I said Ferguson insulted the Neville brothers (who he also told to dive in a game) and David Beckham. Not to mention he isolated Stamp from the ManUtd squad and illegally tapped him up. They should have never betrayed his trust, huh?

"Why do you think SAF whined about referees or timing after the match? It was precisely to detract interest away from our players' bad performance. That's what good managers do!"

Uhh, no. That's not what good managers do. SAF clearly calls out the referee only when the game doesn't go his way. He doesn't call them out or insult them to "detract interest away from our players". That's bullshit.

"I have no doubt that Chelsea will regret ever bringing him back."

Oh yeah... we totally regret bringing back a manager who has proved himself in 4 different countries and has won the Champions League twice.

"And thanks for telling me that I cannot predict the future (in your last sentence) *facepalm*"

Oh, I'm not saying you can't predict the future. I'm saying Mourinho was really the better option for United over SAF. And you're head can't seem to grasp such an idea.

"I simply used basic reasoning from Mourinho's past to deduce that he would have been terrible for United as he, among MANY other reasons, provides no long-term assurance."

Having already won many trophies across 4 different countries, Mourinho you has actually said he prefers to manage Chelsea for a long time. Obviously, as a Manchester United fan, you wouldn't believe in such nonsense ;). I'd also like to see the many reasons.

I honestly don't even see why I'm arguing with you. There are some statements here that you can't grasp and then you make some statements along with that, that make no sense whatsoever because they were all assumptions.

@Vendetta, I used to be a debater back in secondary school and can safely say that you just pulled an ad hominem. Trust that I will not take the immature route and call you "dumb" or "retard" (as you have done in the past). As to your first point: I was referring to the United board members who chose to not pick Mourinho over Moyes. Several reports came out around 5-8-13 stating this. Your second point, I have already discussed with you how Rooney operates best playing deeper than a striker and even RVP called both him and Rooney 9 1/2 strikers who can switch roles if need be. I don't really think that is the case as I believe RVP operates best playing as the front man. What you fail to realize here is that Rooney wasn't at all disappointed playing that role until he wasn't considered a starting position against Real Madrid after a great game against Norwich. That is what caused him to hand in his supposed transfer request. Before RVP, we played Berbatov and Chicharito up front with Rooney. It is not like RVP transfer in and of itself made a difference. Your third point: I was talking about the length of useless material you provided that I already knew. Fourth point: you cannot just call my idea of player protection by a manager "weird" or "bullshit" as that proves you have no way to counteract that explanation except by attacking it. Jaap Stam deserved to get kicked out of United as he made public information that should've been private. In that same biography Stam himself called the Neville's "busy little c**ts". And you did a great job using Piers Morgan's article as your source. A person who clearly dislikes United and is a die-hard Arsenal fan. And SAF was once again right, wasn't he? We found a great center back in Vidic. As for Neville and Beckham, they are forever grateful that SAF trusted them and gave them the chance to become as great as they were at United. Beckham had his fallout with Fergie, but recently he has been praising him and labeling him as a "father figure".

Lastly, you seem to think that winning trophies is the only record one should look in a manager to bring long-term success to their club. Every manager started at some point trophyless and it takes intelligence to pick one that best suits your clubs needs. I am sorry to say that Mourinho will never be right for United even though it is clear that he wanted the job. Another example would be that Moyes has a record for giving youngsters a chance, Mourinho not so much. At United, our history demands it.

Football is a game of assumptions and speculations, if you cannot grasp that you yourself are making assumptions when you say "the best manager replacement was not Moyes, it was Mourinho" you have much to learn about football and the discussion we as fans have.

I think Guardiola would have been the best of all, to succeed SAF. :)

With all due respect, I think that Ferguson is the better manager and the better man. Fergie and Mou both have antics. Ven, you said " Ferguson throws, tantrums, yells at referees, picks on clubs, fights with managers, acts like a toddler, and yet still you see him as a better person than Mourinho".

Yes he does do all that, but so does Mourinho. Mourinho constantly picked fights with Sporting Gijon's manager Manuel Preciado. He threw a ridiculous tantrum when the Spanish media asked him why he never uses Leon and Canales. He always yells at refs.

He most certainly picks on clubs and fights with managers, most notably his ridiculous poke in Vilanova's eye, which was as shameful as Sir Alex throwing a boot at Becks. When asked about it afterwards, he claimed to not know who "Pito" Vilanova was (Pito is Spanish slang for a man's private part).

You said that Sir Alex had accused Madrid of tapping up Ronaldo, but Mourinho himself had tapped up Ashley Cole.

But yes, Mourinho is undoubtedly an extremely successful man. He has won 20 trophies in 13 years, and Sir Alex has won 49 trophies in 39 years. But what really sets the two apart in the heart of fans is Sir Alex's loyalty. Sir Alex would've never done to Madrid what Mourinho did in 2012-13.

Sir Alex has also been adapting. Adapting every single year. It isn't easy to manage the SAME team for 27 consecutive years and continue success. You have to change. Either the manager changes or the players. That's why Arsene isn't doing so well now. Because he hasn't learned to adapt to modern day football. Sir Alex did that perfectly.

Mourinho is special to Chelsea for helping them win their first league title in 50 years, but his tenures at Inter and Madrid have seen him inherit very VERY talented squads from Mancini and Pellegrini, with him having brilliant players at his side already. Sir Alex took a half-decent United side, and made them into one of the best teams in the world. He took a young Cristiano Ronaldo, and nurtured him into one of the greatest ever. He nurtured Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, the Neville's, and so many more. This is what sets him apart from Mourinho. Mourinho has yet to do that.

I like both Mourinho and Sir Alex, but Mourinho has lost my respect after what he did to Madrid in his last year. But still, he is one of the greatest managers in history, but it will take him a long time to catch Sir Alex. Now, TheGame and Vendetta, just end the argument here because you two will always side with Mou and Fergie because they manage(d) your teams. Just take it from a neutral's advice to end the argument here. :)