chelsea8
10 years ago
this is really sad! I hope that one day all the countries in the world will live in peace, we humans are the real animals.
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chelsea8
10 years ago
this is really sad! I hope that one day all the countries in the world will live in peace, we humans are the real animals.
ramaboy10
10 years ago
RIP. Why does war exist L(
HowGhastly
10 years ago
This war should be ended straight away.
ArsenalGunners
10 years ago
" why does war exist " you're the one who started a argument yesterday ramaboy.
Salahadin
10 years ago
The war is over !!!! they just agreed on the terms of the Palestinians this is a great day for my people!
tiki_taka
10 years ago
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keep it related football guys.
And send to Fifa some messages or call them directly, this is more useful
keep it related football guys.
tuan_jinn
10 years ago
R.I.P :( so sad it still happening
Emrecan_58
10 years ago
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Guys @knibis and Lodatz .
tiki_taka started this thread without politics by telling Palestinian athlete's death and he wanted to complain UEFA's policy about that. He said 2 times "keep it football related" . If it wasn't that I would delete this earlier. So please do not write anything politics or I'll have to delete this thread and will give you a ban (anyone who talks politics) .
Guys, tiki_taka started this thread without politics by telling Palestinian athlete's death and he wanted to complain UEFA's policy about that. He said 2 times "keep it football related" . If it wasn't that I would delete this earlier. So please do not write anything politics or I'll have to delete this thread.
Guys @knibis and Lodatz, tiki_taka started this thread without politics by telling Palestinian athlete's death and he wanted to complain UEFA's policy about that. He said 2 times "keep it football related" . If it wasn't that I would delete this earlier. So please do not write anything politics or I'll have to delete this thread.
Guys @knibis and Lodatz .
tiki_taka started this thread without politics by telling Palestinian athlete's death and he wanted to complain UEFA's policy about that. He said 2 times "keep it football related" . If it wasn't that I would delete this earlier. So please do not write anything politics or I'll have to delete this thread.
Lodatz
10 years ago
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The thread is about politics to begin with, though.
UEFA and FIFA have no policy about it, because it is nothing to do with them. The Middle-Eastern conflict is inherently political, not sports-related. What are FIFA supposed to do? Send a delegate to the UN?
C'mon, Emre. I have zero issues with contact details for people to send aid to the families if they wish, but, everything else is automatically a politically-charged statement. He's basically demanding that FIFA take sides in a political crisis, to suit his own political views.
The thread is about politics to begin with, though.
UEFA and FIFA have no policy about it, because it is nothing to do with them. The Middle-Eatsern conflict is inherently political, not sports-related. What are FIFA supposed to do? Send a delegate to the UN?
C'mon, Emre.
The thread is about politics to begin with, though.
UEFA and FIFA have no policy about it, because it is nothing to do with them. The Middle-Eatsern conflict is inherently political, not sports-related. What are FIFA supposed to do? Send a delegate to the UN?
C'mon, Emre. I have zero issues with the contact details for people to send aid to the families if they wish, but, everything else is automatically a politically-charged statement.
The thread is about politics to begin with, though.
UEFA and FIFA have no policy about it, because it is nothing to do with them. The Middle-Eastern conflict is inherently political, not sports-related. What are FIFA supposed to do? Send a delegate to the UN?
C'mon, Emre. I have zero issues with the contact details for people to send aid to the families if they wish, but, everything else is automatically a politically-charged statement.
Emrecan_58
10 years ago
@Lodatz ; Palestine is a Fifa member. So Fifa or UEFA can publish a notice about this Athlete's death.
Lodatz
10 years ago
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They could, but if they don't?
That is not an 'injustice'. Perhaps, and this is a very good bet, they simply do not want to get involved in the political turmoil by making it a big deal on their own website. Players, unfortunately, do die all the time across the world, and FIFA do not put out headline news about it when it happens.
Trying to demand that they 'end their silence' is just stirring up political anger. As such, this thread is 100 percent political to begin with.
They could, but if they don't?
That is not an 'injustice'. Perhaps, and this is a very good bet, they simply do not want to get involved in the political turmoil by making it a big deal on their own website. Players, unfortunately, do die all the time, and FIFA do not put out headline news about it when it happens.
Trying to demand that they 'end their silence' is just stirring up political anger. As such, this thread is 100 percent political to begin with.
Emrecan_58
10 years ago
Considering their activities about this. I think, they can just convey their condolences to the family and friends of the player.
"Players, unfortunately, do die all the time, and FIFA do not put out headline news about it when it happens."
Why not when you make a noise to their communication lines. That's why this thread is opened I guess. Maybe it won't happen but it's worth to try for who really cares about it.
Lodatz
10 years ago
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"That's why this thread is opened I guess. "
If that was what it was, then it could have been opened without a wealth of political statement, which is what tiki did. Its not exactly his first time, is it? I recall once he praised Osama bin Laden for his attacks upon the USA. This thread was a political statement, saying: "look at those nasty Israelis and the poor Palestinians, and the cowardly FIFA who do nothing about it.".
And that's fine. If he wants to hang his balls out and make that statement, then let him. But also let people respond to that statement, without him hiding behind the "keep it football guys!", when his original post wasn't following that same rule in the first place. knibis's videos and my link were not insulting, or personal. They simply responded to the statement made in tiki's post.
That, or just delete the whole damn thread and make him do it again, this time without making his political statement whilst doing so.
But telling people that they have to stick to some made-up rule that he himself broke on his opening post, just so no-one can disagree with him, is BS, man.
"but it's worth to try for who really cares about it."
But what is it really caring about? If one is caring about simply honouring a deceased player, then why the theatrics? Why the accusations of silence, and cowardice? Why claim that FIFA are complicit in the attacks, just because they didn't post a headline about this poor man's death? Why bring up all the stuff about how FIFA should be getting people out of jail, and that they should be making a statement about the tragedy?
If anything I think it shows a LACK of respect to try and use FIFA in a political agenda.
"That's why this thread is opened I guess. "
If that was what it was, then it could have been opened without a wealth of political statement, which is what tiki did. Its not exactly his first time, is it? I recall once he praised Osama bin Laden for his attacks upon the USA. This thread was a political statement, saying: "look at those nasty Israelis and the poor Palestinians".
And that's fine. If he wants to hang his balls out and make that statement, then let him. But also let people respond to that statement, without him hiding behind the "keep it football guys!", when his original post wasn't following that same rule in the first place. knibis's videos and my link were not insulting, or personal. They simply responded to the statement made in tiki's post.
That, or just delete the whole damn thread and make him do it again, this time without making his political statement whilst doing so.
But telling people that they have to stick to some made-up rule that he himself broke on his opening post, just so no-one can disagree with him, is BS, man.
"That's why this thread is opened I guess. "
If that was what it was, then it could have been opened without a wealth of political statement, which is what tiki did. Its not exactly his first time, is it? I recall once he praised Osama bin Laden for his attacks upon the USA. This thread was a political statement, saying: "look at those nasty Israelis and the poor Palestinians".
And that's fine. If he wants to hang his balls out and make that statement, then let him. But also let people respond to that statement, without him hiding behind the "keep it football guys!", when his original post wasn't following that same rule in the first place. knibis's videos and my link were not insulting, or personal. They simply responded to the statement made in tiki's post.
That, or just delete the whole damn thread and make him do it again, this time without making his political statement whilst doing so.
But telling people that they have to stick to some made-up rule that he himself broke on his opening post, just so no-one can disagree with him, is BS, man.
"but it's worth to try for who really cares about it."
But what is it really caring about? If one is caring about simply honouring a deceased player, then why the theatrics? Why the accusations of silence, and cowardice? Why claim that FIFA are complicit in the attacks, just because they didn't post a headline about this poor man's death? Why bring up all the stuff about how FIFA should be getting people out of jail?
If anything I think it shows a LACK of respect to try and use FIFA in a political agenda.
"That's why this thread is opened I guess. "
If that was what it was, then it could have been opened without a wealth of political statement, which is what tiki did. Its not exactly his first time, is it? I recall once he praised Osama bin Laden for his attacks upon the USA. This thread was a political statement, saying: "look at those nasty Israelis and the poor Palestinians".
And that's fine. If he wants to hang his balls out and make that statement, then let him. But also let people respond to that statement, without him hiding behind the "keep it football guys!", when his original post wasn't following that same rule in the first place. knibis's videos and my link were not insulting, or personal. They simply responded to the statement made in tiki's post.
That, or just delete the whole damn thread and make him do it again, this time without making his political statement whilst doing so.
But telling people that they have to stick to some made-up rule that he himself broke on his opening post, just so no-one can disagree with him, is BS, man.
"but it's worth to try for who really cares about it."
But what is it really caring about? If one is caring about simply honouring a deceased player, then why the theatrics? Why the accusations of silence, and cowardice? Why claim that FIFA are complicit in the attacks, just because they didn't post a headline about this poor man's death? Why bring up all the stuff about how FIFA should be getting people out of jail, and that they should be making a statement about the tragedy?
If anything I think it shows a LACK of respect to try and use FIFA in a political agenda.
Emrecan_58
10 years ago
Fifa can't do anything about the people in jails of course. That's against their rules. But they can about the players who died.
Anyway that was why I said before " *if someone sup*ports opoposite sides on this site, that may not be possible to discuss it because it's gonna continue as a politic talk eventually"
So since I don't support any sides here I have to close the discussion considering every opinions.
This topics can easily split us up and we should not let this happen, especially in political talks. I am very experienced about this because you know I live in Turkey where the politics divide us even with our neighbours.
The Palestinian Ahmed El Qatari footballer, who was starting his career at FC Barcelona, died in the bombing of Gaza on August 8, without any comment from FIFA. He was 20. But what is a Palestinian athlete?
Sport, solidarity, fraternity ... blah blah good for the gullible. FIFA nor UEFA have responded to Israel's killing of tens of Palestinian athletes, most often referred to they do not bear up and away colors of Palestine.
Not a word about all those imprisoned for the same reasons. Mahmoud Sarsak, after nearly three years in prison and a 92-day strike, which has left indelible scars on this rising star of the football, was subtracted from the jaws of the wolf. But soccer players of the Palestinian national team still languishing in Israeli prisons today.
Ask for the brochure "On ne peut pas s' en foot" ( On ne peut pas s' en foutre : translation : we can not dont giving a fu** ) for more information on the situation of Palestinian athletes!
All these highly paid officials of FIFA, UEFA, the FFF are dishonor football and we must take the time to tell them, for they do not think that everyone cares for their complicit silence:
FIFA-Strasse 20, PO Box 8044 Zurich, Switzerland
Tel: + 41- (0) 43 222 7777- Fax: + 41- (0) 43 222 7878
E-mail: contact@fifa.org
To write to Michel Platini: info@uefa.com
Go to the website of UEFA, bottom right, there "Feedback" http://fr.uefa.com/community/feedback/index.html target and put his email address as your password.
By mail: UEFA: Route de Genève 46 PO Box CH-1260 Nyon 2 _ SWITZERLAND. Tel: +41 (0) 00 848 2727 Fax: +41 (0) 01 848 2727 Media Office: Tel: +41 (0) 848 04 2727
75738 Paris Cedex 15 France
Phone: +33 (0) 1-44-31-73-73. Fax: + 33 (0) 1-44-31-73-70
e-mail: contact@fondationdufootball.com
CEO: Jean-Pierre Escalettes. e-mail: webmaster@fff.fr
Barça fans would have been proud to support you Champion, Rest in peace and good luck to all the Palestinians sportsmen killed, in jail or refused to raise their country flag.
Keep it Football related.