Lets face it. It is no longer 2009, when Barca could easily win every game when teams just didn't know what to do without the ball. Teams who played against Barca and lost, began to learn how to cope with this problem. One of my friends once told me, any team will be able to beat Barca in a few years. I didn't believe him but he was right. Pep Guardiolas tactics are amazing and work like a charm against inexperienced teams such as those of Bundesliga. Once, Barcelona played Inter in 2010, whom they had played multiple times that year, they found it way harder to win. Chelsea, similarly, also played against the likes of Barcelona many times, therefore Bayern struggled against Chelsea and found it difficult to win. Therefore, in my opinion nowadays you can keep posession for the entire game, but you still may not win. That is what is amazing about football. It evolves around the success of other teams. Teams learn how to beat teams whatever their strategy, hence the lack of consecutive UCL winners. My point is that, Guardiola must alter his tactics to be successful, he can't play the same game for 6 years. Anyways those are just my thoughts. It will be great confidence for Man United to tie agianst Munich, however, I just don't see them succeeding agianst a well prepared Bayern, and Guardiola at home. Just my 2 cents.

I disagree, because it seems to me that Guardiola's tactics are still as successful as it was during the 2008. Bayern Munich won the bundesliga by a long shot, and although they weren't as great as we thought they were today, Giardiola's tactics are still as effective as ever because it purely focuses on possession and that was evident except for the possible fact that we have players who are just simply bitter than theirs (like Welbeck and Boateng), and that is one way to break Pep's tactics, alongside parking the bus if none of our players arent as individually bettet than any of the bayern players, imo. So no, I disagree that Pep's tactics are falling, because judging by the long term results so far, its working.

Well they were partying because they already won 3 trophies and the Bundesliga before April, they tied the last game in Bundesliga and its understandable they have an out of form actually. But they cant be beaten in a 2 games confrontations because it doesnt happen too much under Pep.
You guys are overrating a little bit Bayern, ok they won against Barça last year 7-0 on agg but it was not the 2011 Barça or the 2009. That was a Barça without a coach and full of injuries the same one that lost 2 Clasicos in a row and 1-3 in the Camp Nou against a decent Madrid.

Well my point is that, this Barça game was so a big fixture that many of you made his point about the strength of Bayern, if you look at the Final, Dortmund could win and they faced decent Juve in quarters and were not able to score many goals to them ( Ok 2-0 twice but still ).

I think the actuel Bayern is far more mature and experimented, but he has less hunger as he already won everything, but he is still really confident and dangerous.
Peps job of motivatind players that already won everything is amazing. If he does what nobody did before, win a CL in a row or even win all the competitions in a row is just NO COMMENT.

I cant really see what Guardiola did bad since he arrived, cant understand your vision guys...

If i was a Bayern fan, i couldnt have asked for more in the first season for Pep, what do you want more guys ?

No, Why they have won the Bundesliga by big big big margin. Maybe you should focus more on your current team who might not make it to Champions League next season...Man utd has to win in their 2nd leg or else vuh bye Uefa and thats massive financial loss for them if they miss next season Uefa..

One draw or loss and people think it's the end of an era. Teams aren't perfect and they all lose at some point, even the best.

Well, look at their team and other Bundesliga teams, look at their players and players from other teams of Bundesliga. No wonder they already won the title, do you expected something else? I don't think they won it because of Pep and his style. I seriously hate this style, passing ball around without even trying to shoot. It's so boring! His style is probably "if opponent don't have the ball, they won't score a goal". Last year under Heyncknes, they played much better offensive football.

Did you guys even read my post? Or did you just read the title? Here, I'll just copy and paste from my post.

@truthhurts "Pep Guardiolas tactics are amazing and work like a charm against inexperienced teams such as those of Bundesliga"

" It will be great confidence for Man United to tie agianst Munich, however, I just don't see them succeeding agianst a well prepared Bayern"

@tdotbarca
"Once, Barcelona played Inter in 2010, whom they had played multiple times that year, they found it way harder to win. Chelsea, similarly, also played against the likes of Barcelona many times, therefore Bayern struggled against Chelsea and found it difficult to win. Therefore, in my opinion nowadays you can keep posession for the entire game, but you still may not win. "

"**It evolves around the success of other teams. Teams learn how to beat teams whatever their strategy, hence the lack of consecutive UCL winners**."

@Heinsburg " So no, I disagree that Pep's tactics are falling, because judging by the long term results so far, its working." I may be wrong but we will see at the end of the season, if his tactics can beat any team.

@Fabryi I completely agree with you.

@messi6511: " One of my friends once told me, any team will be able to beat Barca in a few years."... what you are saying in this whole thread is like saying "when summer is over we will start to feel cold sometimes"... just common sense. If you didn't believe what your friend said then you were really really really naive. Anyone who watch football could have replied: yes, of course, but they will always be a team to beat.

It doesn't mean the end of anything, it's football, anything can happen, teams change, players change, philosophy of football changes...

Most successful stories always come with innovative and surprise element... again that's nothing new.

@tuan_jinn okay, so you are saying that I can name any team,and you will stubbornly insist that they can beat Barca? Now that is really really naive.

Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing?

@messi6511

I agree they found it harder to beat them later on. But that's because in a late stage like that in the CL, teams put in a lot more effort. I don't think Inter put the same effort the first time they met Barcelona compared to the last.

No, what I also forgot to comment is: to say any team is incredibly naive. TO say that is absolutely stupid. You started with that statement (quoting your friend).

We all know what your friend referred and I referred to is: Barca wont be invicible of much longer, team will work out their tactic and break Barca's tiki taka possesion game, either by parking the but and hit on counter attack or straight like Bayern.

The original statement sound quite hateful towards Barca and Pep, and I am defending them in football wise way. Barca still very much strong, but there will be teams defeating them unexpectedly.

@tuan_jinn i completely agree with that comment.

Guardiola tactic demolished the most experience manager in the world in"2" Champions League Final