@RM17
Here's one. Puskas here too. This one was a 3-2 loss to Nice.
A 4-0 win against Nice one month earlier.
And in case you're in the mood for some Puskas, here's Hungary's 6-3 demolition of England.
@RM17
Here's one. Puskas here too.
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@RM17
Here's one. Puskas here too. This one was a 3-2 loss to Nice.
A 4-0 win against Nice one month earlier.
And in case you're in the mood for some Puskas, here's Hungary's 6-3 demolition of England.
@RM17
Here's one. Puskas here too.
@Shpalman +5000. The music example is perfect, for the Rabonna argument, just lol.
@shpalman +1!
but i dont think any of us will judge without knowing and watching the game first. its complete nonsense for judging with a blind eye.
@Shpalman. I kind of agree and disagree. Britney Spears is not a good singer, but she can hide that with computers, auto tune, and lip sync. Just produces mainstream pop that will obviously be top of the charts. She will sell millions because of girls who just like mainstream pop. A football player can't disguise his actual talent like a singer can, and how many fans he has wont change anything about his talent. His stats are his because of what he does on the piatch, not because of people with no taste buying his products. EG: Britney Spears.
@Shalpman. I kind of agree and disagree. Britney Spears is not a good singer, but she can hide that with computers, auto tune, and lip sync. Just produces mainstream pop that will obviously be top of the charts. A football player can't disguise his actual talent like a singer can
@Shpalman. I kind of agree and disagree. Britney Spears is not a good singer, but she can hide that with computers, auto tune, and lip sync. Just produces mainstream pop that will obviously be top of the charts. A football player can't disguise his actual talent like a singer can
Thanks so much @Dynastian98! Do you have one of the UCL final between Real Madrid and frankfurt?
It just feels like that most (not everyone) of the C.Ronaldo fans seem to have obsession to turn people who don't admire him as much as you to think that there is only one player that should be called 'the best' 'the complete'. Can't you guys understand that there are ppl who have different opinion than you, NOT EVERYONE love your idol, your hero, your life - C.Ronaldo. I can accept that you love him.
Said this 1000 times, but can't we just make this C.Ronaldo vs Lionel Messi thread, every thread seem to be turning to this same nonsense.
I disagree, you are just turning the words I said against us @decentk, they are making us think that ronaldo is just a mediocre player. Just the thought of this post is about ronaldo is enough to make us right, if this was a messi post than u have the right to say this, but now, ur wrong
I disagree, you are just turning the words I said against us @decentk, they are making us think that ronaldo is just a mediocre player. Just the thought of this post is about robaldo is enough to make us right, if this was a messi post than u have the right to say this, but now, ur wrong
Just because we think he's the best our the most complete doesn't make him "our life" that is just plain retarded and being used to offend...
@RealMadrid17
you're mixing what i wrote. Britney's example was related to stats, meaning that today an awful lot of people thinks "he scored 100 goals more than dude-X... it must mean that he's the best/better :philosoraptor face: ". one the worst things i've read lately was about Verratti not being word class because he scored just one goal since the start of the season. see what i mean? other example, many guys thinks that having n-number individual awards automatically puts a player in the very gotha of football. that is wrong, on so many levels. that's not the way you judge the value of a player and the real contribution he gave to the game.
about Cristiano Ronaldo being the most complete FW in the history of football, R9 might have something to say about it.
@RealMadrid17
you're mixing what i wrote. Britney's example was related to stats, meaning that today an awful lot of people thinks "he scored 100 goals more than dude-X... it must mean that he's the best/better :philosoraptor face: ". one the worst things i've read lately was about Verratti not being word class because he scored just one goal since the start of the season. see what i mean? other example, many guys thinks that having n-number individual awards automatically puts a player in the very gotha of football. that is wrong, on so many levels. that's not the way you judge the value of a player and the real contribution he gave to the game.
@Shpalman
R9 was nowhere near as good of a header of the ball or a set-piece specialist as CR7. Nor was he as physically strong or fit as CR7. Just look at the number of injuries he received during his career. His fitness was never perfect, and he had an illness with his stomach that contributed to him gaining weight. I'm sorry, but R9, despite being more talented than CR7, was never a more 'complete' player.
The concept of a complete player can vary, for me it is not only about the physical attributes of a player but more of what he does on the field. imo Rooney is way more of a complete player than Ronaldo or Cristiano.
With that being said, this thread is going places it shouldn't, with meaningless little discussions like R9 vs CR7.
Has anyone commented about the topic itself?
Dynastian, I respect and admire your eagerness to reply to everything people comment on your thread as pointless as it may be, but we should try to keep the discussion on topic as well...
Rakitic is and always will be the most complete player that the world has and will only see.
^ Pogba will overtake him. That man can do anything
@Dynastian
about the thread topic, perhaps for some Ronaldo didn't deserve to be recognized the best in Portuguese history, personally i think it can be a fair enough decision. if i had to rediscuss it, i'd probably start from looking into what the greatest Portuguese players have done and/or achieved for their country.
@SoccerBoss are you actually serious or???
@tuanis like seriously? Stay on topic?
No offence bro we were off topic since the beginning, in fact whenever there was a forum about ronaldo, messi, Madrid or barca without clunking, I knew we were going to go off-topic.
@shpalman, why do you think ronaldo doesn't deserve to be the greatest portugese player ever, like literraly Portugal haven't won a world cup( third is their best atm) nor a euro( runner-up in 2004) and that's it, So the only thing left is stats, which ronaldo overtakes eusebio, deco and figo.
Or maybe, if you still insist for eusebio to win it, try taking into note that he's dead, so they Decide it in giving it to Ronaldo who should atleats take second place.
^ i thought mods are the one selected and given authority to make sure comments stays inside the topic. Look at the title and look at the arguments in this topic. only some comments stays in the topic while others. sigh.
It was a pretty good discussion with many people involved on it, on topic or not threads are just meant to start a discussion and i found this one great, the discussion went on the question about should we consider Ronaldo the best ever ? Made by his fans and many gave their opinions in his favour or not...
For me anything related on Football is on topic, the fact people arround the world giving arguments and having disagreements feed the conversation instead of ruining it.
If we stayed on topic the thread wouldnt have that much people involved in it, or commenting...
If everyone agree on something there will be no discussion, i actually love those kind of threads where there is disagreements, thats the real aim of discussion...
Lol @tiki your actually right, we all want to share our opinion and thoughts some good and some bad, so it's actually fun having topics where everyone is going all out :) +1 tiki
@Rayrex
i didn't say Ronaldo doesn't deserve it, i'm ok with it. i said if one wants to rediscuss it then i'd look at certain things, that's it.
regarding the off-topic, discussing about the criteria used to judge a player is still pretty on-topic; discussing about wheter Ronaldo deserves or not to be considered the best or more complete ever, it's quite off-topic. point is, me personally i can't read certain inaccuracies anymore, so i felt to point out some remarks in the off-topic area as well. important is that the discussion stays civil and constructive. it didn't go for the umpteenth time into the stale Ronaldo vs Messi argument, so that's a good thing.
During the 100th anniversary of the Portuguese Football Federation in Estoril, Ronaldo was declared the greatest Portuguese footballer ever, picked ahead of the likes of Rui Costa, Luis Figo, and Eusebio. Ronaldo was unavailable to attend due to a Copa del Rey match against Atletico de Madrid, but Sepp Blatter and Michel Platini were both present.
http://www.itv.com/sport/football/update/2015-01-15/ronaldo-named-best-portuguese-player-ever/
During the 100th anniversary of the Portuguese Football Federation in Estoril, Ronaldo was declared the greatest Portuguese footballer ever, picked ahead of the likes of Rui Costa, Luis Figo, and Eusebio. Ronaldo was unavailable to attend due to a Copa del Rey match against Atletico de Madrid, but Sepp Blatter and Michel Platini were both present.
http://www.itv.com/sport/football/update/2015-01-15/ronaldo-named-best-portuguese-player-ever/