Dynastian98
10 years ago
The fact that a team is in the Europa League in the first place indicates two things,
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They are not good enough for the Champions League
- They are most likely not good enough to qualify for the Champions League either
English teams have it harder because they have two domestic cups (CC and FA) which takes its toll on the players. EPL players also don't enjoy a Christmas break, which is given to the Bundesliga and La Liga annually for rest. This makes the players' jobs even harder over the course of a season.
So putting all this together leads me to say that it should be obvious that an English team that attempts to compete in the Europa League are probably not good enough to qualify for the CL via league position anyways, so how will they possibly be good enough to compete on two, or possibly more, fronts? Trying to get a CL spot via league position and winning the Europa League is an extremely difficult task. It's as difficult as competing in the CL and league at the same time. It's no wonder that only Chelsea have been able to win the Europa League in the last ten years (Middlesbrough and Fulham both lost to Spanish opposition in the final).
Common theory paints the competition as a hindrance, but does it actually harm a club's Premier League hopes?
YES .
Liverpool excelled domestically when void of Europa distraction last season, Manchester United's league form has improved without any European action this, so is the Europa League worth the hassle?
No. Well lately maybe yes since now winning team can go to CL.
"Playing on a Thursday and then on a Sunday is a totally different feeling to playing on a Wednesday and a Saturday," says Neville.
"The fact you get home on a Friday, then you're in a hotel on the weekend for the Sunday game so your weekend is gone, that plays a part psychologically."
BBC Sport's study of 33 club campaigns from 2004-05 shows an average 2.3 place league fall when balancing Europa League demands.
But Sunday fixtures in the aftermath of Thursday commitments are not the root cause of a troubled season.
Sides average 1.41 points in matches immediately following a European game, compared to 1.43 in their other league games in the same season - a miniscule difference.
Such findings suggest a decline in league fortunes is not down to games which follow a European fixture, but fatigue amassed over an entire season could be the cause.
"The recovery process is much harder," adds Neville. "Normally you get a Sunday off, but your recovery from the Sunday game knocks into the following week and has a cumulative effect. That builds up. The first couple you're fine but it's the third, fourth, fifth game in the group stage that hits you hard."It doesn't just affect players but staff members and managers."
Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino has suggested the Premier League moves domestic fixtures to a Monday night to allow for an additional recovery day.
"If the Premier League is serious about English clubs
doing well, I really think they need to do something about it," Pulis told
BBC Sport. "It has to be looked at. A Monday game would help massively."
But the Premier League is keen for all 20 of its teams to
abide by a schedule which gives no side an advantage.
Add in the fact the league has just sold over £5bn of television rights -
all split into pre-determined time slots until 2018-19 - and ad-hoc Monday
fixtures look about as likely as the FA Cup final being held on Mars.
BBC Sport's study suggests the competition hinders a side
trying to break through the glass ceiling that exists in trying to reach the
Premier League's top four.
· Only two sides, Manchester City in
2010-11 and Tottenham a year later, have competed in the Europa League while
ending a season in the coveted Champions League qualification places.
· Sides finishing fourth to seventh in
the table have fallen an average 3.2 places the following season with the
additional Europa workload.
Pulis's Stoke side in 2011 - in the Europa League thanks
to an FA Cup final defeat - dropped just one league place but encountered long
league trips to Norwich after a flight home from Switzerland and Sunderland
after visiting Ukraine.
"I usually pick my team on a Tuesday so the lack of
preparation was a real disadvantage," added Pulis, who guided Stoke into
Europe for the first time in 37 years.
"You can't get lads out on the training field to do
what you need.
"At Stoke I thought our lads enjoyed the freshness of
the competition a lot because we were new to it. Some Premier League games
after it, I almost got the sense we were on a downer, the league game was
devalued."
Is it worth it financially? Can you make a profit?
TheEuropa League hands out prize money in every round, not to mention ticket-sale
revenue, so the competition offers a fresh income stream.
"In general, it's highly likely that most clubs would make a profit," added
Swans chairman Jenkins.
TheWelsh side reached the round of 32 in 2013-14, a feat which would net £1.2m
this season without accounting for ticket sales or the financial rewards earned
per win (£148,000) and draw (£74,000) in the group stage.
Common theory paints the competition as a hindrance, but does it actually harm a club's Premier League hopes?
YES .
Liverpool excelled domestically when void of Europa distraction last season, Manchester United's league form has improved without any European action this, so is the Europa League worth the hassle?
No. Well lately maybe yes since now winning team can go to CL.
"Playing on a Thursday and then on a Sunday is a totally different feeling to playing on a Wednesday and a Saturday," says Neville.
"The fact you get home on a Friday, then you're in a hotel on the weekend for the Sunday game so your weekend is gone, that plays a part psychologically."
BBC Sport's study of 33 club campaigns from 2004-05 shows an average 2.3 place league fall when balancing Europa League demands.
But Sunday fixtures in the aftermath of Thursday commitments are not the root cause of a troubled season.
Sides average 1.41 points in matches immediately following a European game, compared to 1.43 in their other league games in the same season - a miniscule difference.
Such findings suggest a decline in league fortunes is not down to games which follow a European fixture, but fatigue amassed over an entire season could be the cause.
"The recovery process is much harder," adds Neville. "Normally you get a Sunday off, but your recovery from the Sunday game knocks into the following week and has a cumulative effect. That builds up. The first couple you're fine but it's the third, fourth, fifth game in the group stage that hits you hard.
"It doesn't just affect players but staff members and managers."
Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino has suggested the Premier League moves domestic fixtures to a Monday night to allow for an additional recovery day.
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"If the Premier League is serious about English clubs
doing well, I really think they need to do something about it," Pulis told
BBC Sport. "It has to be looked at. A Monday game would help massively."
But the Premier League is keen for all 20 of its teams to
abide by a schedule which gives no side an advantage.
Add in the fact the league has just sold over £5bn of television rights -
all split into pre-determined time slots until 2018-19 - and ad-hoc Monday
fixtures look about as likely as the FA Cup final being held on Mars.
BBC Sport's study suggests the competition hinders a side
trying to break through the glass ceiling that exists in trying to reach the
Premier League's top four.
· Only two sides, Manchester City in
2010-11 and Tottenham a year later, have competed in the Europa League while
ending a season in the coveted Champions League qualification places.
· Sides finishing fourth to seventh in
the table have fallen an average 3.2 places the following season with the
additional Europa workload.
Pulis's Stoke side in 2011 - in the Europa League thanks
to an FA Cup final defeat - dropped just one league place but encountered long
league trips to Norwich after a flight home from Switzerland and Sunderland
after visiting Ukraine.
"I usually pick my team on a Tuesday so the lack of
preparation was a real disadvantage," added Pulis, who guided Stoke into
Europe for the first time in 37 years.
"You can't get lads out on the training field to do
what you need.
"At Stoke I thought our lads enjoyed the freshness of
the competition a lot because we were new to it. Some Premier League games
after it, I almost got the sense we were on a downer, the league game was
devalued."
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Europa League hands out prize money in every round, not to mention ticket-sale
revenue, so the competition offers a fresh income stream.
"In
general, it's highly likely that most clubs would make a profit," added
Swans chairman Jenkins.
The
Welsh side reached the round of 32 in 2013-14, a feat which would net £1.2m
this season without accounting for ticket sales or the financial rewards earned
per win (£148,000) and draw (£74,000) in the group stage.
The
Europa League hands out prize money in every round, not to mention ticket-sale
revenue, so the competition offers a fresh income stream.
"In
general, it's highly likely that most clubs would make a profit," added
Swans chairman Jenkins.
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Common theory paints the competition as a hindrance, but does it actually harm a club's Premier League hopes?
YES .
Liverpool excelled domestically when void of Europa distraction last season, Manchester United's league form has improved without any European action this, so is the Europa League worth the hassle?
No. Well lately maybe yes since now winning team can go to CL.
"Playing on a Thursday and then on a Sunday is a totally different feeling to playing on a Wednesday and a Saturday," says Neville.
"The fact you get home on a Friday, then you're in a hotel on the weekend for the Sunday game so your weekend is gone, that plays a part psychologically."
BBC Sport's study of 33 club campaigns from 2004-05 shows an average 2.3 place league fall when balancing Europa League demands.
But Sunday fixtures in the aftermath of Thursday commitments are not the root cause of a troubled season.
Sides average 1.41 points in matches immediately following a European game, compared to 1.43 in their other league games in the same season - a miniscule difference.
Such findings suggest a decline in league fortunes is not down to games which follow a European fixture, but fatigue amassed over an entire season could be the cause.
"The recovery process is much harder," adds Neville. "Normally you get a Sunday off, but your recovery from the Sunday game knocks into the following week and has a cumulative effect. That builds up. The first couple you're fine but it's the third, fourth, fifth game in the group stage that hits you hard."It doesn't just affect players but staff members and managers."
Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino has suggested the Premier League moves domestic fixtures to a Monday night to allow for an additional recovery day.
"If the Premier League is serious about English clubs
doing well, I really think they need to do something about it," Pulis told
BBC Sport. "It has to be looked at. A Monday game would help massively."
But the Premier League is keen for all 20 of its teams to
abide by a schedule which gives no side an advantage.
Add in the fact the league has just sold over £5bn of television rights -
all split into pre-determined time slots until 2018-19 - and ad-hoc Monday
fixtures look about as likely as the FA Cup final being held on Mars.
BBC Sport's study suggests the competition hinders a side
trying to break through the glass ceiling that exists in trying to reach the
Premier League's top four.
· Only two sides, Manchester City in
2010-11 and Tottenham a year later, have competed in the Europa League while
ending a season in the coveted Champions League qualification places.
· Sides finishing fourth to seventh in
the table have fallen an average 3.2 places the following season with the
additional Europa workload.
Pulis's Stoke side in 2011 - in the Europa League thanks
to an FA Cup final defeat - dropped just one league place but encountered long
league trips to Norwich after a flight home from Switzerland and Sunderland
after visiting Ukraine.
"I usually pick my team on a Tuesday so the lack of
preparation was a real disadvantage," added Pulis, who guided Stoke into
Europe for the first time in 37 years.
"You can't get lads out on the training field to do
what you need.
"At Stoke I thought our lads enjoyed the freshness of
the competition a lot because we were new to it. Some Premier League games
after it, I almost got the sense we were on a downer, the league game was
devalued."
Is it worth it financially? Can you make a profit?
TheEuropa League hands out prize money in every round, not to mention ticket-sale
revenue, so the competition offers a fresh income stream.
"In general, it's highly likely that most clubs would make a profit," added
Swans chairman Jenkins.
TheWelsh side reached the round of 32 in 2013-14, a feat which would net £1.2m
this season without accounting for ticket sales or the financial rewards earned
per win (£148,000) and draw (£74,000) in the group stage.