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Man United: Arrogance, inexperience or plain incompetence??
campusblogger 11 years ago
Manchester United, England 7 54

I'll start by saying that this is a rant by a disappointed fan. Ok since that is settled:

What the hell was that shambles United has called a transfer window. I don't think I've felt this let down by United since the summer they brought in Michael Owen and Obertan. The summer I felt that the Ronaldo cash would be spent on top quality replacements across the board - just like Tottenham have done this summer, but Fergie paraded the two like they were his top targets all along..even going to the extent of handing Owen the no. 7! We were in debt, I get that..but 30 mil out of 80 for better players wouldn't have hurt the coffers that badly now, would it?

Thiago, Fabregas, Schweinsteiger, Modric, Bale, Ozil, Herrera, De Rossi, Baines, Fellaini. This are some of the names we've been linked with and perhaps except the Germans, we've bid for all of them. I don't feel too bad about Ozil coz there is Kagawa and Rooney in his space, but United were just downright insulting, either to the fans or to the other clubs, with all other bids. This summer just smelt of inadequate planning and an assumption that everyone wants to play for United. If you'll bid 32 mil, what's adding 3 extra mill going to do? and if we were always planning on buying Fellaini, why not get him earlier and ease his integration? and Poor Herrara...i doubt he'd ever want to join the club after that debacle! I'm fully behind Moyes, but he needs to get Woodward to step up!! Manchester United as an institution deserve better than that mediocrity exhibited by its administration.

Or maybe, United fans are just overreacting coz we were promised a marquee name? I just know that I needed to vent.

p.s. Wenger surprised us all with that!!

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TheGame 11 years ago
Manchester United 104 1380

At the end of the day when it's all said and done, at least we addressed the midfield issue. As a United supporter, I am glad that we now have a presence in the midfield with Fellaini. BTW we were planning on buying Fellaini, but not at the price that Everton wanted. When we couldn't sign any of the other players on the final day, we had to settle for Fellaini, according to reports. It was a big risk that bit us at the end, because Everton got what they wanted.

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Tuanis 11 years ago
Manchester United, England 87 2311

It was a poor transfer market for United but not as horrible as you describe it. Ferguson wasnt a big spender and was not used to buying big names in transfer windows; but he bought instead young talent to keep building up the team slowly each season. This time we got Fellaini which is a great player and just what United needed in midfield so in the end what is keeping us fans upset is the fact at the beginning of the transfer period we were "promised" big names and a lot of money invested in signings which we never got.

As I said before, Fellaini is better than nothing, just what we needed, not more not less. He is a very talented player and for many other teams this kind of transfer would be considered outstanding so no reason for us to complain just because Arsenal spent their transfer budget from their past 5 seasons in Ozil...

And Coentrao's case was depressing because it was going to happen but the transfer paperwork of some sort got sent (or received) some minutes late. The deal was already done... But we dont need him as much as Fellaini, we got Evra still in shape to defend the EPL tittle.

In the other hand we just recently got Zaha, and it may have been part of the past transfer window but we just got him this season so it is basically the same. I trust Fergie's last signing.
Also Kagawa in the end was not loaned to Atletico Madrid so lets hope he performs as we know he can this season.

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man_utd 11 years ago
Manchester United, South Korea 91 1444

You're over-reacting in my opinion. I trust in what Moyes is doing and you guys should too.

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tiki_taka 11 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

I think you have a point, it\'s good to buy cheap and sell expensive + the cub prestige, players wants to come without having big bonuses or wages, good point for united.
But this case can change very quickly, i remember Wenger let you RVP for a very cheap price, but when he asked for Nani and bid 27 M, United refused. With Barça this year, trying to steal Thiago with the minimum buying clause 18M was not a classy moove, i prefered seiing him joining Munich to just let him go to United that way.
When you become too harch in your way of negotiating, no one would negotiate with you and im sure Wenger will NEVER let one of his stars go to United again...
I hope you don\'t missunderstand me, i like United as team, but what could be brilliant managing in the past can be transformed to disastrous if there is no change.

If we look to Napoli and Tottenham for example, they were obliged to buy expensive, because they sold very expensive, Cavani (63m) and Bale ( +92m), its logical that other teams wants to sell expensive when they know you have enough money, that's what i call good managing.
SAF found the price of Hazard and Moura very expensive if you remember, its chelsea and PSG who bought them finally and look the result, they really deserved their price.
I think its Psg and Monaco who are responsible of that market explosion, this year, the price of Falcao fixed the price of Cavani and Suarez, which has boosted the price of Higuian Negredo and Soldado, all those transfers are a bit expensive imo, withouth talking about Neymar and Bale gate, because those 2 players depends a lot on marketting and they will not just be used in a sportive way.

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campusblogger 11 years ago
Manchester United, England 7 54

i do agree that Fellaini is player united have needed, but what irks me is that we had to wait till 5 minutes before deadline to get it over the line. United were very disrespectful to Everton throughout the summer..very unUnited. but it seems they also realized that they blundered big time this summer according to goal.com, so hopefully it was inexperience. we can't have a repeat of what happened this summer. <http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/09/03/4234353/manchester-united-to-launch-internal-inquest-into-summer>

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ramaboy10 11 years ago
Mauritius 285 6463

I like this post a lot. +1

And like tiki_taka said: A few playerd prices go up, all of em' go up. Which makes Moyes unwilling to pay for them!

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United_Hates_Blues 11 years ago
Manchester United, England 15 1000

Thank god campusblogger isn't a manager cause his club would go bankrupt in a heartbeat. We have enough players we just needed a couple reinforcements, which would mean someone had to move on. Kagawa can't even get a game right now. What you want to spend money on bench warmers? Grow up, you're just blinded by the fact that other clubs got some good players such is life. Also we are still in debt, not much but have some goddamn patience. I can't believe I responded to this crap thread. That's how pissed off you got me.

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campusblogger 11 years ago
Manchester United, England 7 54

dude, in a civilized argument or discussion, people attack the idea not the person. What does me growing up have to do with anything? you know nothing about me!! If I got you mad, give me the reasons why, but there is no need to resort to insults! I'm entitled to an opinion as you are yours.

That said everyone and his dog knows that United were shit in terms of transfers this season. It was scattergun, insulting and desperate. I'll give you an example..think Coentrao, when is the last time United got a player on loan? We've always been known to point out targets and attain them quietly and effeciently. Rooney, Ronaldo, Van Nistelrooy, Veron, Kleberson all come to mind. We have lost targets as well, but it's never because the player doesnt want to play for United. It's always about transfer fees (being outbid, or very high valuations), or players wanting too much in terms of wages. This summer didn't show that planning or the secrecy. Fabregas and Modric (to an extent) used United's public interest to cement their own positions, thus embarrassing the club. If it was quiet as it should have been, no one would be talking. and by the way, none of those targets (apart maybe from Herrera) was going to be sitting on the bench!

And lastly, in debt on not, United offered 45 million euro for Fab, 50 million for Fellaini and Baines..there was money to spend. My argument is that it wasn't spent properly. I'm not saying that he should spend money on Bebe-like players, what I'm saying is simple..identify your targets early, then conduct the business quietly, efficiently and early like the likes of BvB, Chelsea and Citeh did.

p.s. I'm hoping from your post that you are not one of those people who think kagawa can play alongside Carrick in central mid. (cause if you are, I'll have wasted my time explaining all this to you!)

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United_Hates_Blues 11 years ago
Manchester United, England 15 1000

You're missing the whole point. These players did not want to leave their current club or had dedication else where. What you begging for players now? Word of advise stop thumbing yourself up, it makes you look like a attention wh0re.

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This genius thinks he needs to tell me about tactics and who needs to be playing with Carrick.

You're so good with that why aren't you on the United board? Stop trying to make United into this big spender club we will never be spenders like Chelsea, Real Madrid or Citeh. Are you new to United or are you just a Glory hunter?

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mladen 11 years ago
Manchester United, Yugoslavia 253 2319

It was overreacting coz we were promised a marquee name . If Moyes says we won't buy player and than buy Fellaini, everyone would be happy ! I know we need more players, but we have to support our players . New players will arrive sooner or latter . We won everything with little investment ( L'pool,Ars,Che,Man C invest more then United ) . Glazers waiting till we fail low,then they will give money. Fact.

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campusblogger 11 years ago
Manchester United, England 7 54

a thumbs up or a thumbs down doesnt add a pound to my wallet..i really dont care about that! and in a sentence, you just summarized my point..United were after players who didnt want to come and who used that interest to benefit themselves. United is bigger than that..Moyes and Woodward should have done better research/scouting, and showed some humility...thats all I'm saying!

and yes, I am a glory hunter! a club of United's stature shouldn't be getting eliminated at the group stages or second round of the champions league! Real fans of the club shouldnt stand and watch as that happens. United and its fans should be chasing glory!!

@Mladen...i like Fellaini, but that essentially is the gist of all this. Since the glazers, United has steadily been losing ground on teams that we should consider our equals..the likes of Madrid, Barca and Bayern. The team brings in alot of money, but unlike these clubs, very little of that goes into player investment. That's why Fergie was the greatest to get as much as he did from the squad especially post 2008.

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Vendetta 11 years ago
Chelsea FC, Egypt 202 3025

I would give part of the blame to Chelsea. There was so much media coverage on the Rooney transfer saga that ManUtd probably put a majority of their focus on keeping Rooney. He is literally the line between them being champions to them contending for a top 4 spot. But you guys are definitely missing the presence of SAF and David Gill.

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Lodatz 11 years ago
Tottenham Hotspur, England 150 4992

"Since the glazers, United has steadily been losing ground on teams that we should consider our equals..the likes of Madrid, Barca and Bayern. The team brings in alot of money, but unlike these clubs, very little of that goes into player investment. That's why Fergie was the greatest to get as much as he did from the squad especially post 2008."

I'd give this +100, if I could.

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United_Hates_Blues 11 years ago
Manchester United, England 15 1000

As much as I would like to hate on the Glazers, we should be debt free soon. We'll see where it goes from there.
Agreed with lodatz SAF was the heart and soul of United. Like SAF said we have to give Moyes a chance, if the gaffer thinks the squad is good enough its his call.

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