That is indeed a strange scenario, nearly too fortunate for Marseille to be true. I understand where Olympiakos frustation come from. Obviously, BVB didn't had anything to play for at that point which is why the timing defo make it look like it was made on purpose, especially after hearing you say the game started late. So yeah, I understand why you are happy about the whole thing. It does feel a bit like karma to Klopp.
Though I personally don't really think it was 100% made on purpose by him. His player might have heard the fact Olympiakos had won and this might have affected their motivation and the fact Klopp smiled might have been sarcastic. I agree its a lot of if, but there is no way to be completely sure.
Still, I understand why you are happy and I don't want to spoil it for you.
On another hand, I had no idea Valverde managed Olympiakos, thats pretty amazing, how good was he as a manager?
That is indeed a strange scenario, nearly too fortunate for Marseille to be true. I understand where Olympiakos frustation come from. Obviously, BVB didn't had anything to play for at that point which is why the timing defo make it look like it was made on purpose, especially after hearing you say the game started late. So yeah, I understand why you are happy about the whole thing. It does feel a bit like karma to Klopp.
Though I personally don't really think it was 100% made on purpose by him. His player might have heard the fact Olympiakos had won and this might have affected their motivation and the fact Klopp smiled might have sarcastic. There is no way to for sure.
Still, I understand why you are happy and I don't want to spoil it for you.
On another hand, I had no idea Valverde managed Olympiakos, thats pretty amazing, how good was he as a manager?
Hello lads today I am gonna share you one of the biggest controversies in football that ever happened and nobody gave a flying shite about it according to me always of course.
Year is 2011 and we are talking about Group F of UCL.
The teams were. Arsenal, Marseille, BvB and Olympiakos.
Fast forwarding to the 4th fixture the tables was :
Arsenal 8
Marseille 7
BvB 4 Klopp is the manager
Olympiakos 3 Ernesto Valverde is the manager 2nd spell under Olympiakos
The situation for Olympiakos seemed already over with thin chances of success, especially they had numerous starters injured or coming back from injuries. Despite all those Olympiakos won at France scoring at 82' with a Greek wonderkid and gave the reds a historical away victory and gave them hopes that something magic was about to happen.
Previously demolishing BvB by 3-1, playing in Germany and they managed to lose 1-0 to a disgusting blind referee that happened to ignore a CLEAR handball by a BvB defender.
Olympiakos had 1 last chance to win Arsenal and hopefully BvB would give their fans one more victory in that group stage. Olympiakos somehow pulled a 2-1 and in the dying minutes of the game Modesto scored at 89th minute and made it 3-1 sealing the victory. Despite the rules of the game that required both matches to start at the same time the game between BvB and Marseille started 5 minutes later and the score was 2-1 for BvB. Fast forwarding yet again 5 minutes before the end of the game between BvB and Marseille Ayew scored at 85th min of the game barely 2 minutes later Valbuena scored at 87th minute of the game to make it 3-2. Olympiakos was done and his chances of going to the round of 16 was diminished. Despite players celebrating and few minutes later stopping the celebrations some people from inside the club of Olympiakos noticed something while watching the other game. Klopp was there smiling despite being humiliated with a bunch of losses.
At the end of the game Olympiakos players were frustrated that their chances of a fantastic European run were over by some shambolic defending.
The Greek captain called Maniatis said the exact words : We fought and we tried for the fans and the club but seems it was not enough. Last but not least I wanted to congratulate BvB and especially Jurgen Klopp that I saw smiling despite losing for the 4th and LAST place of the group. They deserve it more than anyone else. I can't recall Valverde's exact words but I am 100% sure he was salty for the knockout in the last 5 minutes of the game.
Few years later the best revenge came with Barcelona and Messi and I am sure this is KARMA in football. Liverpool played great football but they lost to the same manager they made a HUGE injustice (according to some fans).
Myself personally I DESPITE AND HATE Olympiakos and how he ripped apart Greek football with their cheating but in Europe I support every Greek team like its mine and I can say thank you Valverde and Messi for giving me this satisfaction even so many years later.
Sorry for the bad grammar in the text, I tried to make it as readable as it can get and its honestly my point of view and how things went. Its by no means a 100% scientifically proven event(pause for irony and jokes) but I can say for once the feelings are mixed inside me. I wanted Liverpool to win something since their football is great but watching how the greatest manager in Greece of 10's was robbed of an amazing achievement to add in his bio made me feel justice was served.