@Marcus No problem for me, i dont have any hate towards gay people...
You can do your comming out now :).
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@Marcus No problem for me, i dont have any hate towards gay people...
You can do your comming out now :).
What an immature bunch of ignorants a lot of you are.
Maybe Hamsik played truth or dare with his friends?
@KingHenry, you're not being very "open-minded" when you tell people how they are SUPPOSED to feel about something. If you realize that everyone deserves to find happiness in life, as long as it does not interfere with other people's rights, than who cares if @Marcus2011 or @Dynastian98 don't find homosexuality "comfortable"?
@Marcus2011 if you say "sexual preferences should not be public", you are limiting free speech. Not everything that people reveal about themselves has to have YOU in mind and ensure that it doesn't make YOU uncomfortable.
@Dynastian98, come on mate you are better than that! If our sole purpose in life was to reproduce, how would we be any different than a bacteria? We're humans because we congregate, have a sense of community, socialize, and are capable of kindness and love regardless of what our biological "urges" are.
Fun fact: There are 1500 animal species that practice homosexual behavior, but only one that practices homophobia.
@KingHenry, you're not being very "open-minded" when you tell people how they are SUPPOSED to feel about something. If you realize that everyone deserves to find happiness in life, as long as it does not interfere with other people's rights, than who cares if @Marcus2011 or @Dynastian98 don't find homosexuality "comfortable"?
@Marcus2011 if you say "sexual preferences should not be public", you are limiting free speech. Not everything that people reveal about themselves has to have YOU in mind and ensure that it doesn't make YOU uncomfortable.
@Dynastian98, come on mate you are better than that! If our sole purpose in life was to reproduce, how would we be any different than a bacteria? We're humans because we congregate, have a sense of community, socialize, and are capable of kindness and love regardless of what our biological "urges" are.
Fun: There are 1500 animal species that practice homosexual behavior, but only one that practices homophobia.
@Dephased, I don't get it, how is it ignorant for not feeling comfortable with homosexuality?
@tiki
hahahaha +1 Thanks I will start now :D
Actually this thread was about whether we can accept that our favorite player is homosexual if he came out publicly not why we find it uncomfortable . Also , should a footballer come out publicly ?
Little off topic :
I am completely feeling comfortable being around gay man , because I have many gay acquaintances and they respect that I am straight . ( trust me I don't need to come with bs because many of you probably just like me have been hit on by gay man even when they knew you are straight , happened to me many times , but not by the ones that know me already )
Argument about "Love " is very dangerous one because it can be interpreted in many ways . Here is how .
Love can be towards many things . Did you know that are people who has sex with their cars ? They are in love ! NO BS , just search it .
Also , did you know that there are pedophiles that love little boys or little girls depending on their gender and preference ? Did you know in parts of Europe and i last time I read in Canada they think it is simple love towards another human , just younger one . And they are thinking to make it legal and acceptable , because it is human LOVE <3 .
They are in purest love to them . That is human love .
Did you also know that some man just love fcking animals . Seriously , they would not do anyone else , but animals . They claim they love animals . Human love can be in so many ways towards so many .
Back to topic :
I think I stated my answer , but I will repeat myself in short summary. It is not mandatory for footballer to press conference and let everyone in the world know that he prefers man . It should not be public . They are idols and role models to millions and their sexual preference should NOT be disclosed publicly . They should NOT Be questioned publicly who they love and who or what they find attractive . However, if it does comes out , it should be kept to bare minimum .
Recently Oliver Giroud was accused of cheating . All the football fans just like Arsenal fans wanted news to get on with football and let that story go . However , media just loves to play with such stories .
Peoples sex lives are very private topic and should not be discussed . I hardly tell my best friend who I slept with on weekend or who I went on a date .
I care about football and for all that I know with all diving and simulations , half of the footballers are gay and not manly , but do I give a damn ? No , I just enjoy the football and last thing that comes to my mind while watching if the guys who jump on each other during goal celebration , like it in the butt ...
@game
Free speech act does not tell you to go around and brag about who you like to do in your spare time. This days world has become so feminized that we have to feel the need to express our love and have people tell everyone about their secretes and us tell ours to them .
Really you going to bring animals into this ? This is totally different subject. Not going to go in flaws of theory on evolution , because there are still many question un answered by science and any rational person can question them scientifically .
I will just quote this man here for you .
"I am quite conscious that my speculations run beyond the bounds of
true science….It is a mere rag of an hypothesis with as many flaws and
holes as sound parts." Charles Darwin to Asa Gray, cited by Adrian
Desmond and James Moore, Darwin, (New York: W.W. Norton and
Company, 1991) pp. 456, 475.
Hey If some people want to believe that they somehow came from monkeys that is their choice . However, I like to think that I am God's creation and until there is no solid prove , I will go on with my believes .
@tiki
hahahaha +1 Thanks I will start now :D
Actually this thread was about whether we can accept that our favorite player is homosexual if he came out publicly not why we find it comfortable . Also , should a footballer come out publicly ?
Little off topic :
I am completely feeling comfortable being around gay man , because I have many gay acquaintances and they respect that I am straight . ( trust me I don't need to come with bs because many of you probably just like me have been hit on by gay man even when they knew you are straight , happened to me many times , but not by the ones that know me already )
Argument about "Love " is very dangerous one because it can be interpreted in many ways . Here is how .
Love can be towards many things . Did you know that are people who has sex with their cars ? They are in love ! NO BS , just search it .
Also , did you know that there are pedophiles that love little boys or little girls depending on their gender and preference ? Did you know in parts of Europe and i last time I read in Canada they think it is simple love towards another human , just younger one . And they are thinking to make it legal and acceptable , because it is human LOVE <3 .
They are in purest love to them . That is human love .
Did you also know that some man just love fcking animals . Seriously , they would not do anyone else , but animals . They claim they love animals . Human love can be in so many ways towards so many .
Back to topic :
I think I stated my answer , but I will repeat myself in short summary. It is not mandatory for footballer to press conference and let everyone in the world know that he prefers man . It should not be public . They are idols and role models to millions and their sexual preference should NOT be disclosed publicly . They should NOT Be questioned publicly who they love and who or what they find attractive . However, if it does comes out , it should be kept to bare minimum .
Recently Oliver Giroud was accused of cheating . All the football fans just like Arsenal fans wanted news to get on with football and let that story go . However , media just loves to play with such stories .
Peoples sex lives are very private topic and should not be discussed . I hardly tell my best friend who I slept with on weekend or who I went on a date .
I care about football and for all that I know with all diving and simulations , half of the footballers are gay and not manly , but do I give a damn ? No , I just enjoy the football and last thing that comes to my mind while watching if the guys who jump on each other during goal celebration , like it in the butt ...
@game
Free speech act does not tell you to go around and brag about who you like to do in your spare time. This days world has become so feminized that we have to feel the need to express our love and have people tell everyone about their secretes and us tell ours to them .
Really you going to bring animals into this ? This is totally different subject. Not going to go in flaws of theory on evolution , because there are still many question un answered by science and any rational person can question them scientifically .
I will just quote this man here for you .
"I am quite conscious that my speculations run beyond the bounds of
true science….It is a mere rag of an hypothesis with as many flaws and
holes as sound parts." Charles Darwin to Asa Gray, cited by Adrian
Desmond and James Moore, Darwin, (New York: W.W. Norton and
Company, 1991) pp. 456, 475.
Hey If some people want to believe that they somehow came from monkeys that is their choice . However, I like to think that I am God's creation.
@tiki
hahahaha +1 Thanks I will start now :D
Actually this thread was about whether we can accept that our favorite player is homosexual if he came out publicly not why we find it comfortable . Also , should a footballer come out publicly ?
Little off topic :
I am completely feeling comfortable being around gay man , because I have many gay acquaintances and they respect that I am straight . ( trust me I don't need to come with bs because many of you probably just like me have been hit on by gay man even when they knew you are straight , happened to me many times , but not by the ones that know me already )
Argument about "Love " is very dangerous one because it can be interpreted in many ways . Here is how .
Love can be towards many things . Did you know that are people who has sex with their cars ? They are in love ! NO BS , just search it .
Also , did you know that there are pedophiles that love little boys or little girls depending on their gender and preference ? Did you know in parts of Europe and i last time I read in Canada they think it is simple love towards another human , just younger one . And they are thinking to make it legal and acceptable , because it is human LOVE <3 .
They are in purest love to them . That is human love .
Did you also know that some man just love fcking animals . Seriously , they would not do anyone else , but animals . They claim they love animals . Human love can be in so many ways towards so many .
Back to topic :
I think I stated my answer , but I will repeat myself in short summary. It is not mandatory for footballer to press conference and let everyone in the world know that he prefers man . It should not be public . They are idols and role models to millions and their sexual preference should NOT be disclosed publicly . They should NOT Be questioned publicly who they love and who or what they find attractive . However, if it does comes out , it should be kept to bare minimum .
Recently Oliver Giroud was accused of cheating . All the football fans just like Arsenal fans wanted news to get on with football and let that story go . However , media just loves to play with such stories .
Peoples sex lives are very private topic and should not be discussed . I hardly tell my best friend who I slept with on weekend or who I went on a date .
I care about football and for all that I know with all diving and simulations , half of the footballers are gay and not manly , but do I give a damn ? No , I just enjoy the football and last thing that comes to my mind while watching if the guys who jump on each other during goal celebration , like it in the butt ...
@game
Free speech act does not tell you to go around and brag about who you like to do in your spare time. This days world has become so feminized that we have to feel the need to express our love and have people tell everyone about their secretes and us tell ours to them .
Really you going to bring animals into this ? This is totally different subject. Not going to go in flaws of theory on evolution , because there are still many question un answered by science and any rational person can question them scientifically .
I will just quote this man here for you .
"I am quite conscious that my speculations run beyond the bounds of
true science….It is a mere rag of an hypothesis with as many flaws and
holes as sound parts." Charles Darwin to Asa Gray, cited by Adrian
Desmond and James Moore, Darwin, (New York: W.W. Norton and
Company, 1991) pp. 456, 475.
Hey If some people want to believe that they somehow came from monkeys that is their choice . However, I like to think that I am God's creation and until there is no solid prove , I will go on with my believes .
@Marcus2011, no we did not come from monkeys. We shared a common ancestor with chimpanzees. Charles Darwin knew nothing about the DNA and the genetic basis for evolution, because contemporary scientific means weren't available to him. He was conscientious of the fact that his theory could not explain it all at the time. Please stop talking about evolution if you know nothing about it, because you clearly don't. "I like to think that I am God's creation and until there is no solid prove" haha I am interested to know where you found this so called "solid proof" for God. But I am not going to convince you and neither should I, because I don't care about all the crazy fantasies you believe in.
"Free speech act does not tell you to go around and brag about who you like to do in your spare time"-> yes it does precisely because of the fact that it IS free speech. Now you have a choice not to listen to it, but apparently you would prefer censorship.
@Marcus2011, no we did not come from monkeys. We shared a common ancestor with chimpanzees. Charles Darwin knew nothing about the DNA and the genetic basis for evolution, because conventional scientific means weren't available to him. He was conscientious of the fact that his theory could not explain it all at the time. Please stop talking about evolution if you know nothing about it, because you clearly don't. "I like to think that I am God's creation and until there is no solid prove" haha I am interested to know where you found this so called "solid proof" for God. But I am not going to convince you and neither should I, because I don't care about all the crazy fantasies you believe in.
@Marcus2011, no we did not come from monkeys. We shared a common ancestor with chimpanzees. Charles Darwin knew nothing about the DNA and the genetic basis for evolution, because conventional scientific means weren't available to him. He was conscientious of the fact that his theory could not explain it all at the time. Please stop talking about evolution if you know nothing about it, because you clearly don't. "I like to think that I am God's creation and until there is no solid prove" haha I am interested to know where you found this so called "solid proof" for God. But I am not going to convince you and neither should I, because I don't care about all the crazy fantasies you believe in.
"Free speech act does not tell you to go around and brag about who you like to do in your spare time"-> yes it does precisely because of the fact that it IS free speech. Now you have a choice not to listen to it, but apparently you would prefer censorship.
WOW We are way off topic anyways
Please @thegame educate me about evolution theory . I wonder what such smart science guy like you doing on footyroom . I have friends who are teaching science in Harward university , they love football but never saw them sitting on forums . Even genuine amateur science lovers .. Smh .
I may not word my self as good as you but I sure read enough to know that science does not have jack sht answers for every question about evolution and it is still a theory ! Mate , Do you know when theory becomes fact ? Do you believe that every theory eventually becomes the law ? HAs evolution became the law ?
Your believe in evolution is not any different from a person who believes in God. However, here is the problem.
See the problem is that people like you who thinks it is their the need FORCE their views , morals and ethics , lifestyle , theories on to others .
We live predominately in free world and majority still does not like what small minority shoves it them down into throat with out any sort of explanation . We are respectable towards your views , but at the same time we are not getting any respect towards ours . Instead of bullying us into submission towards new morals and ideology , why don't you relax and keep it to yourself just like we do .
No one denies science , but we are not dumb to sit and believe into every science theory that can be dismissed in few years as soon as more complex evidence appear . That is how science have been working for centuries .
Now please , also show me one , at least one word , where it says that free speech is an obligation of citizen to go around and tell people who they like fcking ? What is it about people this days that they have a need to tell .
Mate you can go and tell your friends and your family that you are gay , fine with me because I don't give a damn . We are talking about footballers who should not come out publicly , becaue SEX LIFE of one person is a PRIVATE matter and should NOT BE DISCUSSED publicly .
WOW We are way off topic anyways
Please @thegame educate me about evolution theory . I wonder what such smart science guy like you doing on footyroom . I have friends who are teaching science in Harward university , they love football but never saw them sitting on forums . Smh .
I may not word my self as good as you but I sure read enough to know that science does not have jack sht answers for every question about evolution and it is still a theory ! Mate , Do you know when theory becomes fact ? Do you believe that every theory eventually becomes the law ? IS evolution become the law ?
You believe in evolution is not any different from a person who believes in god. However, here is the problem.
See the problem is that people like you who thinks it is their the need FORCE their views , morals and ethics , lifestyle , theories on to others .
We live predominately in free world and majority still does not like what small minority shoves it them down into throat with out any sort of explanation . We are respectable towards your views , but at the same time we are not getting any respect towards ours . Instead of bullying us into submission towards new morals and ideology , why don't you relax and keep it to yourself just like we do .
No one denies science , but we are not dumb to sit and believe into every science theory that can be dismissed in few years as soon as more complex evidence appear . That is how science have been working for centuries .
Now please , also show me one , at least one word , where it says that free speech is an obligation of citizen to go around and tell people who they like fcking ? What is it about people this days that they have a need to tell .
Mate you can go and tell your friends and your family that you are gay , fine with me because I don't give a damn . We are talking about footballers who should not come out publicly , becaue SEX LIFE of one person is a PRIVATE matter and should NOT BE DISCUSSED publicly .
WOW We are way off topic anyways
Please @thegame educate me about evolution theory . I wonder what such smart science guy like you doing on footyroom . I have friends who are teaching science in Harward university , they love football but never saw them sitting on forums . Even genuine amateur science lovers .. Smh .
I may not word my self as good as you but I sure read enough to know that science does not have jack sht answers for every question about evolution and it is still a theory ! Mate , Do you know when theory becomes fact ? Do you believe that every theory eventually becomes the law ? IS evolution become the law ?
You believe in evolution is not any different from a person who believes in god. However, here is the problem.
See the problem is that people like you who thinks it is their the need FORCE their views , morals and ethics , lifestyle , theories on to others .
We live predominately in free world and majority still does not like what small minority shoves it them down into throat with out any sort of explanation . We are respectable towards your views , but at the same time we are not getting any respect towards ours . Instead of bullying us into submission towards new morals and ideology , why don't you relax and keep it to yourself just like we do .
No one denies science , but we are not dumb to sit and believe into every science theory that can be dismissed in few years as soon as more complex evidence appear . That is how science have been working for centuries .
Now please , also show me one , at least one word , where it says that free speech is an obligation of citizen to go around and tell people who they like fcking ? What is it about people this days that they have a need to tell .
Mate you can go and tell your friends and your family that you are gay , fine with me because I don't give a damn . We are talking about footballers who should not come out publicly , becaue SEX LIFE of one person is a PRIVATE matter and should NOT BE DISCUSSED publicly .
WOW We are way off topic anyways
Please @thegame educate me about evolution theory . I wonder what such smart science guy like you doing on footyroom . I have friends who are teaching science in Harward university , they love football but never saw them sitting on forums . Even genuine amateur science lovers .. Smh .
I may not word my self as good as you but I sure read enough to know that science does not have jack sht answers for every question about evolution and it is still a theory ! Mate , Do you know when theory becomes fact ? Do you believe that every theory eventually becomes the law ? HAs evolution became the law ?
You believe in evolution is not any different from a person who believes in god. However, here is the problem.
See the problem is that people like you who thinks it is their the need FORCE their views , morals and ethics , lifestyle , theories on to others .
We live predominately in free world and majority still does not like what small minority shoves it them down into throat with out any sort of explanation . We are respectable towards your views , but at the same time we are not getting any respect towards ours . Instead of bullying us into submission towards new morals and ideology , why don't you relax and keep it to yourself just like we do .
No one denies science , but we are not dumb to sit and believe into every science theory that can be dismissed in few years as soon as more complex evidence appear . That is how science have been working for centuries .
Now please , also show me one , at least one word , where it says that free speech is an obligation of citizen to go around and tell people who they like fcking ? What is it about people this days that they have a need to tell .
Mate you can go and tell your friends and your family that you are gay , fine with me because I don't give a damn . We are talking about footballers who should not come out publicly , becaue SEX LIFE of one person is a PRIVATE matter and should NOT BE DISCUSSED publicly .
WOW We are way off topic anyways
Please @thegame educate me about evolution theory . I wonder what such smart science guy like you doing on footyroom . I have friends who are teaching science in Harward university , they love football but never saw them sitting on forums . Even genuine amateur science lovers .. Smh .
I may not word my self as good as you but I sure read enough to know that science does not have jack sht answers for every question about evolution and it is still a theory ! Mate , Do you know when theory becomes fact ? Do you believe that every theory eventually becomes the law ? HAs evolution became the law ?
Your believe in evolution is not any different from a person who believes in god. However, here is the problem.
See the problem is that people like you who thinks it is their the need FORCE their views , morals and ethics , lifestyle , theories on to others .
We live predominately in free world and majority still does not like what small minority shoves it them down into throat with out any sort of explanation . We are respectable towards your views , but at the same time we are not getting any respect towards ours . Instead of bullying us into submission towards new morals and ideology , why don't you relax and keep it to yourself just like we do .
No one denies science , but we are not dumb to sit and believe into every science theory that can be dismissed in few years as soon as more complex evidence appear . That is how science have been working for centuries .
Now please , also show me one , at least one word , where it says that free speech is an obligation of citizen to go around and tell people who they like fcking ? What is it about people this days that they have a need to tell .
Mate you can go and tell your friends and your family that you are gay , fine with me because I don't give a damn . We are talking about footballers who should not come out publicly , becaue SEX LIFE of one person is a PRIVATE matter and should NOT BE DISCUSSED publicly .
Speakinjg about sexual orientations and speaking about politics are the same, it always smells like sh!t.
imo , i see gay people as psychotic patients who need to be treated !! a man loving a man or a woman loving a woman doesn't mean they should make a sexual relationship with each other !! a man having a love feeling towards a man may sound normal but a man having a sexual drive towards a man is abnormal !! why should we accept a psychological disorder not treating it ?!! why shouldn't we consider any other psychological disorder the same ( we should accept and bla bla bla ) ?
Do you think there are there big number of gay players or do they even exist in top Leagues ? Would you stop supporting him or would you just loose interest or despite all of that you will still continue to cheer and idolize him ?
Should football players come out if there are gay players ? Do you think football world is ready for open gay footballer ?
No , I am not gay or homophobic , I was just wondering after I saw Hamsik dress if he is gay and what will be fans reaction .
Just being curious about this forum opinion , I had little debate with my friend .
Would you stop supporting him or would you just loose interest or despite all of that you will still continue to cheer and idolize him ?
Should football players come out if there are gay players ? Do you think football world is ready for open gay footballer ?
No , I am not gay or homophobic , I was just wondering after I saw Hamsik dress if he is gay and what will be fans reaction .
Would you stop supporting him or would you just loose interest or despite all of that you will still continue to cheer and idolize him ?
Should football players come out if there are gay players ? Do you think football world is ready for open gay footballer ?
No , I am not gay or homophobic , I was just wondering after I saw Hamsik dress if he is gay and what will be fans reaction .
Are there big number of gay players or do they even exist in top Leagues ? Would you stop supporting him or would you just loose interest or despite all of that you will still continue to cheer and idolize him ?
Should football players come out if there are gay players ? Do you think football world is ready for open gay footballer ?
No , I am not gay or homophobic , I was just wondering after I saw Hamsik dress if he is gay and what will be fans reaction .
Are there big number of gay players or do they even exist in top Leagues ? Would you stop supporting him or would you just loose interest or despite all of that you will still continue to cheer and idolize him ?
Should football players come out if there are gay players ? Do you think football world is ready for open gay footballer ?
No , I am not gay or homophobic , I was just wondering after I saw Hamsik dress if he is gay and what will be fans reaction .
Just being curious about this forum opinion , I had little debate with my friend .