I cad look at this all day long.

Dynastian, then how can one say they have dominated? If they had dominated they would have had a major share of the titles, and thats not the case.

my point is some people say that Barca and Real dominate Europe just because they completely dominate their own league.

so if anything REAL is the one to dominate Europe with 10 titles. barca have NOT dominated anything. Milan, Bayern, Liverpool (and Ajax, Man United, Benfica) all have dominated more than (or as much as) them.

@Lilywhite

So reaching the semi-finals 6-7 years in a row is not dominating the CL? Through the course of 2006-2012, FC Barcelona have beaten the likes of Chelsea, AC Milan, Arsenal, Lyon, Bayern, Manchester United, Real Madrid, and Inter Milan. They have reached the semi-finals on 6 out of those 7 Champions League seasons, reached the final three times, and won it on all three occasions (Manchester United came the closest to them in that era, reaching the semi-finals in 4/7 occasions, reaching the final 3 times, and winning it once).

Barcelona have conquered both Jose Mourinho and Sir Alex Ferguson, and showed the world what 'tiki-taka' was all about. Yes, they have ridden their luck, and have had their fair share of controversies, but which glorious era is not showered in controversies?

You can say all you want, but United have never been able to replicate Barca's golden era in Europe in their entire history. Not even in the days of Best, Charlton, and Law were they able to exert their dominance onto the European stage for long. It is undoubted that Real Madrid has been the dominant club in European Cup history, but Barcelona also deserve credit for what they have accomplished recently.

PS. The 5 clubs I perceive to have been repeatedly dominating Europe in the last 10 years are Chelsea, Real Madrid, Bayern, Manchester United, and the cream of the crop: Barcelona. Their era may be 'over', but even now they can rip the English champions apart 4-1, and score 4 at the Bernabeu. It shows that they are not to be trifled with easily. ;)

Dynastian are you sure you know the definition of the word "domination"? Reaching semi-finals 6-7 years in a row is not dominating lmfao, domination requires one to stand out clearly, and barca havent done that. if anyone then its either Bayern Munich or Real Madrid.

So why is that there are blanks in some of the ares? For example, England from 1916-1919 and 1940-1947 Maybe world wars but other leagues were played???????? and what about France 1993 which there were no wars that year. Does anyone know the history why these league were not played in those years?

Also, I think the scotish league would've been very interesting.

Lily, Im sure if you look up the definition for domination in a football related dictionary Barcelona would come out as a synonym. The way Barcelona dominated Europe during 2008-2013 is something very few other teams have ever achieved. You can argue there is a team which dominates Europe each season but some teams, as you say, stood out through history like that Barcelona I mentioned.

@gaga Most of the gaps are wars or internal league issues. The case of Ligue 1 in 1993 is the same as Serie A in 2005 (corruption issues) where there was no tittle awarded.

Gaga, like Tuanis said that was stopped because of war, in 1940's for example the England of Churchil was under the third Reich bombs, if you notice Bundesliga stopped the year PL started again in that era.

Italy 2005, wasn't it Juventus

I dont agree Tuanis I think Bayern has dominated more in the same period and been a much stronger force.

@Lilly were you following Football in this specific era ?

^ Just first half highlights.

Anyway Barça got 2 CL in that period, reached semi-finals 6 times out of 6. But yes Bayern were dominating too.

still tiki_taka, Bayern's football has far more of a dominating aspect to it than Barca's.

Bayern is the best team in the world and has been so for years. no discussion.

@Lily

"Bayern is the best team in the world and has been so for years. no discussion."

• Lol, have you ever watched Barcelona in their prime? There was no stopping them. Bayern's 2012/13 team would've bowed down to possibly the greatest club side in history. Throughout those years, that legendary Barca team containted the likes of Ronaldinho, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Deco, van Bronckhorst, Puyol, Zambrotta, Toure, Ibrahimovic, Larsson, Eto'o, Henry, Villa, and Abidal. There's no way Bayern has come close to matching that Barca squad in the 21st century. Hell, Bayern haven't even been able to match their own squad in the 70's, so how can they possibly compare with the golden era of Barcelona?

Oh by the way, the one time Barca faced Bayern during their golden era, Barcelona thumped Bayern Munich 5-1. I hope you get the chance to turn on those vintage Barca tapes because you're missing out on possibly the greatest club side in history.

Oh thanks guys

@Eden Yes Juve were the champions, but the title was stripped away from them for their involvement in match fixing as well as the runners-up ac milan who were also involved, so the title was not awarded to any team that year.

@Lilly you can have your own opinion even if i dont share your point, if you dont want to discuss it its your right.

Many fights here were made in this forum to make a place for every opinion, nobody has the perfect truth and even unpopular opinions are welcome here, you are free to think what you want.

I dont know if Barça will be able to reproduce this quality Football again, but im sure trophies will come again, i have to agree with dynast.

Feel free to say your view with freedom as long as you have an argumentation.
Nobody agrees at 100 per cent with another user, there will always be different views as long as its a subective sport, but at least pitch reality shouldnt be ignored.

its alright you think that dynastian but in my opinion names like Neuer, Muller, Robben, Ribery, Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Gotze, Lewandowski are far superior to the ones you mentioned. in my opinion there is no discussion that bayern is the greatest force in modern football and has been for years.

and thanks tiki_taka for respecting my opinion.

Those players half of them signed recently, we' re not talking about the same Era, and those same players took 5 to Real Madrid last year, doesnt mean they are actually inferior to Madrid, they can beat them this year but im really doubtful.
I respect yours but i share dynast opinion.

This table doesn't prove who dominated Europe, just who dominated each of the 5 leagues in the past 125 years. An interesting comparison would compare this table with the list of CL winners. It'll prove whether teams dominated leagues because the league was weak or because they were the best.

^ It does not necessarily pan out like that. Chelsea in 2012 was a garbage team, but they won the CL. They were neither the best team in England, nor the best team in Europe, but they managed to win the CL regardless.