I for one appreciate watching PSG! One horse league? Yes. But it's nice to see them in the international cups. Currently one of the best teams in the world, with the ever so powerful Zlatan on top of his career!
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I for one appreciate watching PSG! One horse league? Yes. But it's nice to see them in the international cups. Currently one of the best teams in the world, with the ever so powerful Zlatan on top of his career!
EPL is a very commercialized league, and very entertaining. And of course there are EPL fanboys who narrow-mindedly think the EPL has the best teams, but obviously they don't...lol. I don't know much about ligue 1, i don't watch it, but who cares if it is less competitive, all that matters is that the team you support, PSG is talented and they show their worth in european competitions. No one doubts PSG, everyone knows they're a powerhouse.
True... The only difference is that PSG has only had their economic uplift recently, as for EPL clubs most of them are rich and have been for some time now. People dont realize that a ton of clubs have similar amount of money as the ones called rich clubs, the difference is not all of the owners spill their money as evidently.
PSG really needs some competition. Only when some of their other teams start succeeding in the CL or even the EL will anyone even THINK of them breaking into Europe's top 4 leagues.
Fact is, I don't watch Ligue 1 because I don't care. If that offends you, or is "hate" I really don't care either. All the good players play for a single team, and the quality of the other teams in low enough that I don't like watching them like I do the other one-horse league in Europe, Germany, which even though has Bayern, also has some very capable smaller sides.
If you want to deem that hate, whatever, I call it fact-based opinion.
@SunFlash The thing is, there is a lot of hate going on against ligue 1, Pelle isn't talking about people like you who don't care, he is talking about people who really hate ligue 1 and PSG and say pretty stupid stuff on it. I've been on the highlight, I seen some pretty annoying statement there and I can understand people who would call it hate and find it offensive. I really don't think his post was targeted at you. :D
The way I see it, its pretty much the same thing when any team get a lot of cash at once, people expect them to produce results or they start mocking them. Its even worse when its in a league most of the people don't watch and consider inferior. In my opinion, league 1 is great, it has especially some good young talent and a few year ago, they had some team who were considered to be top level. The problem is, the have been a great evolution in football in recent year, making some team a lot stronger than other. I feel like most of the big french team were not able to follow through on those evolution. Another problem for me is that french football still get a lot of visibility despite not being quite as impressive as other league. I guess the biggest problem is that PSG is just too strong for the rest of the league wich make it look like a joke. Sorry if I'm losing myself in trying to sort my thought on the matter.
@SunFlash The thing is, there is a lot of hate going on against ligue 1, Pelle isn't talking about people like you who don't care, he is talking about people who really hate ligue 1 and PSG and say pretty stupid stuff on it. I've been on the highlight, I seen some pretty annoying statement there and I can understand people who would call it hate and find it offensive. I really don't think his post was targeted at you. :D
The way I see it, its pretty much the same thing when any team get a lot of cash at once, people expect them to produce results or they start mocking them. Its even worse when its in a league most of the people don't watch and consider inferior. In my opinion, league 1 is great, it has especially some good young talent and even a few year ago, they had some team who were considered to be top level. The problem is, the have been a great evolution in football in recent year, making some team a lot stronger than other. I feel like most of the big french team were not able to follow through on those evolution. Another problem for me is that french football still get a lot of visibility despite not being quite as impressive as other league. I guess the biggest problem is that PSG is just too strong for the rest of the league wich make it look like a joke. Sorry if I'm losing myself in trying to sort my thought on the matter.
@SunFlash The thing is, there is a lot of hate going on against ligue 1, Pelle isn't talking about people like you who don't care, he is talking about people who really hate ligue 1 and PSG and say pretty stupid stuff on it. I've been on the highlight, I seen some pretty annoying statement there and I can understand people who would call it hate and find it offensive. I really don't think his post was targeted at you. :D
The way I see it, its pretty much the same thing when any team get a lot of cash at once, people expect them to produce results or they start mocking them. Its even worse when its in a league most of the people don't watch and consider inferior. In my opinion, league 1 is great, it has especially some good young talent anda few year ago, they had some team who were considered to be top level. The problem is, the have been a great evolution in football in recent year, making some team a lot stronger than other. I feel like most of the big french team were not able to follow through on those evolution. Another problem for me is that french football still get a lot of visibility despite not being quite as impressive as other league. I guess the biggest problem is that PSG is just too strong for the rest of the league wich make it look like a joke. Sorry if I'm losing myself in trying to sort my thought on the matter.
Ok, I'll hear you out, that point is fair enough.
From what I can understand from statements of intent in both money and performance, clubs such as PSG, Monaco, Lyon, Marsille, etc, are using a mix of money and Euro qualification to prove France is a league to be feared. It hasn't worked in the slightest.
Look, trolls are trolls, and it's easier to kick anything when it's down, and Ligue 1 is very down this season. We were seeing the same comments directed to the BPL on this forum, Pelle even expressed them in his original post, but I don't care about that either, because they're actually both right, I made a thread on that topic myself. How can you get angry at facts?
@Sun Its true that Ligue 1 is an easy target for troll, just like some of the biggest team in the EPL recently. Team like Chelsea who didn't gave the results people expected. Its really sad to see how people seem to pick on those team who are already in distress and make things worse. I really hate to see that. :( I really hope things will end up working alright for Ligue 1 in the future.
I've never talked against BPL, simply because I find it the most entertaining.
@Pelle Yeah, I know you don't have anything against BPL, I was just saying that troll who are saying hatefull thing agaisnt ligue 1 are not different that those bashing on BPL team all day long.
It all comes down to the money and how they are distributed throughout respectively league to see the competitiveness.Well, at least that's usually the case, but then we got the Leicester surprise this year, which makes it obvious it doesn't tell the whole story.. but then again, if you look at the cost of the Leicester team, it's still higher than most other clubs in the bigger leagues around Europe.
I don't know what Gonzi is referring to when he claims that the EPL is more commercialized than other leagues. I don't agree, but will gladly hear his arguments out. If anything it's less commercialized. Mind you they have just taken away the sponsor for the league itself, and the TV money is more equally distributed to the teams participating in it.
I believe this is where the hate comes from. When a team that get some financial doping which makes it virtually impossible (AgaIn, Leicester!) to compete with them. I myself remember when Chelsea got the huge influx of money and the hate that followed with it. And I can understand the arguments of uncompetitiveness, but overall over time I believe it's good for the league, as the standard of it naturally increases.
[French league is getting there in terms of the revenue. Although as LA Liga they've got a long way to go before the money get distributed more equally, thus increasing the competitiveness int he league. Which is on of reasons I believe @Pelle still enjoys it.
The hate against french league 1 and particularly PSG is hitting a new bottom every day, since PSG lost 3-2 on aggregate against Man City. But of all the arguments against us I just dont get how BPL fans mock with PSG having a sugar daddy when their entire league is commercialized. From sugar daddies, to ticket prices, to tv-licinses. I love bpl but its not less unfair due to economic differences. I would say its even more.
Just my opinion.
The hate against french league 1 and particularly PSG is hitting a new bottom every day, since PSG lost 3-2 on aggregate against Man. But of all the arguments against us I just dont get how BPL fans mock with PSG having a sugar daddy when their entire league is commercialized. From sugar daddies, to ticket prices, to tv-licinses. I love bpl but its not less unfair due to economic differences. I would say its even more.
Just my opinion.