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Footballers dont save lives - MOu is at it again, brilliant
tuan_jinn 10 years ago Edited
Manchester United, Netherlands 198 6912

Mourinho stated his objection against the idea that Ronaldo and Messi are in top 100 most influential people in the world (30 and 45 respectively).

"I am passionate about football, of course," the former Real Madrid boss told The Daily Telegraph. "But for us professionals, if it means everything then we are in trouble; and for supporters it is the same.

"In Portugal they say that you can change everything except your mum and your football club. I understand football’s power, socially, politically and culturally, but how can a football player be in the top 100 of the most influential people in the world in Forbes magazine?" -LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLZ

"It’s absurd! We don’t save lives!

"I know that people can jump from a fifth floor because their team lost a game, but that person has problems.

"How can you compare a football player, a football manager with a scientist, a doctor? You cannot compare.".

LMAO, this guy is hillarious. And again, he is right!!! Love this

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Mourinho stated his objection against the idea that Ronaldo and Messi are in top 100 most influential people in the world (30 and 45 respectively).

"I am passionate about football, of course," the former Real Madrid boss told The Daily Telegraph. "But for us professionals, if it means everything then we are in trouble; and for supporters it is the same.

"In Portugal they say that you can change everything except your mum and your football club. I understand football’s power, socially, politically and culturally, but how can a football player be in the top 100 of the most influential people in the world in Forbes magazine?" -LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLZ

"It’s absurd! We don’t save lives!

"I know that people can jump from a fifth floor because their team lost a game, but that person has problems.

"How can you compare a football player, a football manager with a scientist, a doctor? You cannot compare.".

LMAO, this guy is hillarious. And again, he is right!!! Love this

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Heisinburg 10 years ago Edited
Manchester United 67 1516

Influence can come from anywhere, doesn't necessarily have to come from doctors or scientists...

Pharrell Williams is a musician, just like every other billions of musicians, but what makes him so unique is how he harmonizes his chords alongside his distinct voice; triggering listeners to move their body in accordance to the song he produces. Williams is one of the most joyous musicians out there, and it's insane how much he crafted himself to become one considering how young he started doing so.

Ronaldo and Messi are no different; they current level of footballing skills is second to none, and is being exposed to billions of viewers every week. They are one of the greatest entertainers in our lives, who keeps us occupied with whatever we do in life, including those that are doctors, scientist, and so forth. And who else could we imagine to be the main sources of inspiration in our footballing lives other than these two?

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Influence can come from anywhere, doesn't necessarily have to come from doctors or scientists...

Pharrell Williams is a musician, just like every other billions of musicians, but what makes him so unique is way he harmonizes his chords alongside his distinct voice, which makes listeners want to move their body in accordance to the song, making him one of today's joyous musicians out there.

Ronaldo and Messi are no different; they current level of footballing skills is second to none, and is being exposed to billions of viewers every week. They are one of the greatest entertainers in our lives, who keeps us occupied with whatever we do in life, including those that are doctors, scientist, and so forth. And who else could we imagine to be the main sources of inspiration in our footballing lives other than these two?

decentK 10 years ago Edited
Arsenal 38 2896

COMPLETE NONSENSE.

The key word is " influence " as Heisinburg said. Footballers have saved many thousands, I'd even say millions of lives for sure - pretty wide topic so I don't say much, but just telling that there are thousands of ways to influence people, not just by being a doctor.

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COMPLETE NONSENSE. The key word is " influence " as Heisinburg said. Footballers have saved many THOUSANDS of lives for sure - pretty big topic so I don't say much, but just telling that there are thousands of ways to influence people, not just being a doctor.

tuan_jinn 10 years ago Edited
Manchester United, Netherlands 198 6912

Yeah of course, everyone has their own opinion, like... these celebrities and those comedy talk show hosts are most influential guys... yes, in a way.

I can see your point, It changes millions of lifes. For example, Im much nicer to my girlfriend if there is a comming match (MU or El Clasico' or etc...), prepare foods and romantic and crap like that,.... everything is nice. Influences can be from small to big...

I dont know what Im saying anymore.

But Mou has a point, not a big one though.

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Yeah of course, everyone has their own opinion, like... these celebrities and those comedy talk show hosts are most influential guys... yes, in a way.

It changes millions of lifes, Im much nicer to my girlfriend if there is a comming match (MU or El Clasico' or etc...), prepare foods and romantic and crap like that,.... everything is nice. Influences can be from small to big...

I dont know what Im saying anymore.

But Mou has a point, not a big one though.

decentK 10 years ago
Arsenal 38 2896

^ Correct, just one of the examples there. But if there's something to agree with Mourinho there, then it's this

"I know that people can jump from a fifth floor because their team lost a game, but that person has problems."

That's deep depression that has nothing to do with football, eventhough you might want to blame football for it eventually.

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ramaboy10 10 years ago
Mauritius 285 6463

He has an excellent point. I guess footballers are seen as more 'Influential' because young people don't really give 2 sh*ts about scientists and other stuff in the world. Give it a few years, and retards like Kanye West will be on there.

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tiki_taka 10 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

Music and sport are anti-depression weapon for the new generation, i agree with Mourinho that they should not be that important as they hide the big fights the people used to have to protect their rights, but without them world would be worst than this...
For a favella boy or poor ghettos, idols are needed, i agree with Mou on what he said that it shouldnt be like this, but the reality is the opposite...
Influence can also be negative and some men listed in the top 100 have a very bad influence, like war makers and big firms owners, you cant imagine how bad are those US rap ideology makers are having a bad influence on the world, the get rich or die trying thing is creating a lot of frustration and unsatisfaction, since 1 of 100.000 can succeed, but it keeps people dreaming and not fighting for more significant fights...
What i love in Mourinho is that he is a real man, a man without any fight in his life, no matter what he is fighting for isnt a man, and his life has no significant meaning.

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Lilywhite 10 years ago
28 468

@ramaboy10

"Retards like Kanye West". What on earth do you mean? Kanye West is one of our generation's most influential and greatest artists, stop basing a whole man from one mistake (Taylor Swift incident).

Everyone makes mistakes. Kanye felt the need to make a uproar on behalf of the music industry and he did (obviously a bit alcholized). I dont support what he did there but as said, noone can be perfect. Btw, Kanye's already been on the worlds most influential list. A true artist not afraid to be different and innovative.

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tiki_taka 10 years ago Edited
Barcelona, France 367 9768

@Lilly you have the right to think so, he has the right not to love him...
I dont like him too, nor Jay Z nor any pro brutal capitalist ideology, for me RAP US died with Tupac Shakur.
Since his murder, RAP us made a 180 degree change serving dominant ideology, in US presidency power died with JFK, since him no one is able to risk his life for his nation and people, better take big firms money and live an easy coward life.

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@Lilly you have the right to think so, he has the right not to love him...
I dont like him too, nor Jay Z nor any pro brutal capitalist ideology, for me RAP US died with Tupac Shakur.

Dynastian98 10 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

Mou has a point, but Ronaldo and Messi are also heroes like soldiers and doctors, but in different ways. Ronaldo and Messi influence billions around the world to pursue their dreams relentlessly until and to never give up. These lessons that Ronaldo/Messi inadvertently teach everyone is alone enough to be two of the most influential people on our planet. They're also the two most well-known athletes in the world, period. They are on the same level of fame as Muhammad Ali, Pele, Diego Maradona, and Michael Jordan.

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Lilywhite 10 years ago Edited
28 468

I totally respect it when one says he doesnt like Kanye or Jay-z etc, but calling one a retard just is too dumb. And i agree about 2pac, i think the most influential are

  1. Eminem
  2. 2pac
  3. Jay-z
  4. Kanye West
  5. Nas

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I totally respect it when one says he doesnt like Kanye or Jay-z etc, but calling one a retard just is too dumb. And i agree about 2pac, i think the most influential are

  1. Eminem
  2. 2pac
  3. Jay-z
  4. Kanye West
  5. Nas

ramaboy10 10 years ago
Mauritius 285 6463

@Lilywhite, sorry, I just think Kanye West is an overpaid, arrogant prick who can't sing for his life and does not deserve fame. That's just my opinion anyway.

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tiki_taka 10 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

I agree, but Mohammed Ali had a political dimension that no other Sportsman has ever reached, my father told me once that greatness are always threatned by jail, if you have never risked jail or got murdered then you were not judged that dangerous by the system...
Mohamed Ali, sport aside, is considered as a black leader like Malcolm X, Mandela or Tupac, they have all something in common, went to jail or murdered, were diabolized, and cared for their people more than for money...

I think in term of men greatness, we cant put Messi/Ronaldo in the same line of Mohamed Ali, they are modern examples, but their fight is their own, they arent on the political fight domain...
Mohammed Ali disaproved publicly the system, throw his olympic medal ( the official recognition ) and risked jail, got his career stopped, refused war, and answered peacefully in the sport field to show how great he is. I dont think Messi/Ronaldo would risk their success and lifes for an idea or for people, and im not blaming them for it, only the Greatest human beings are able to sacrifice all the prizes for truth and humanity knowing how expensive is the price to pay.

Any true black leader or true people leader got diabolized, served jail or murdered, sadly the people only recognize them when they are dead, Mandela passed 27 years of jail and was treated like a terrorist until the end of Appartheid when finally from the devil statue he got some recognition at the end of his life, most of true leaders never got this in their life.

Bob Marley was a true leader, in a more peaceful way, but as all leaders who fight for people, they die at a young age or get publicly murdered, and it has a threatning effect on the following ones, that know how dangerous are those who rule the world, and get instant submission for money, for fame knowing exactly where the red line he should not cross is in...

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tiki_taka 10 years ago Edited
Barcelona, France 367 9768

What i like in Mourinho is his realism and pragmatism : ''I dont feel proud because i did nothing'', while he has clearly done more than hundred of awarded people getting the system recognition and people for being incredible human beings...

No making an autograph or donate a negligeable amout of our earnings for our self conscience isnt that big, saying things, going on the field of opinions and ideas, crossing the lines world masters have drawn knowing exactly how expensive is the price to pay, thats GREATNESS for me...

Kayne west for me or Jayz for me are just clowns to entertain and serve a dominant ideology making them climb very fast and get world wide visibility, talented and succesful clowns but dont talk about GREATNESS.

His voice talking about Tupac says it all :) changing toppic very fast, the system never promote leaders anyway, and even if so they cant act freely and help their people to be emancipated.

Ok i may be annoying for some people, or even wrong in my views, but its an invitation to think, everything is made in this world for normal people to not think, to not be united, to not fight, thats how injustice has always won...

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What i like in Mourinho is his realism and pragmatism : ''I dont feel proud because i did nothing'', while he has clearly done more than hundred of awarded people and getting the system recognition and people for being incredible human beings...

No making an autograph or donate a negligeable amout of our earnings for our self conscience isnt that big, saying things, going on the field of opinions and ideas, crossing the lines world masters have drawn knowing exactly how expensive is the price to pay, thats GREATNESS for me...

Kayne west for me or Jayz for me are just clowns to entertain and serve a dominant ideology making them climb very fast and get world wide visibility, talented and succesful clowns but dont talk about GREATNESS.

His voice talking about Tupac says it all :) changing toppic very fast, the system never promote leaders anyway, and even if so they cant act freely and help their people to be emancipated.

Dynastian98 10 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

Kanye is a piece of trash artist. He had a promising start with College Dropout, but has been absolute garbage ever since. Nowhere near one of the best hip hop artists in history, so **impossible** for him to be one of the best artists of our generation. His only talent nowadays lies in his excellent production capabilities. His production is among the finest in hip hop these days.

Artists such as Tupac, Rakim, Nas, Eminem, Public Enemy, N.W.A., A Tribe Called Quest, GZA, Ghostface Killah, etc. all had a unique style and message attributed to them. Public Enemy was about social injustice. N.W.A. was about violent law authorities. GZA was about a progressively cold-hearted generation. Eminem was about a boy suffering from the expectations of society and domestic issues (both wife and mother). Tupac was about racism and making the world a better place for everyone. What is Kanye about? Nothing at all. One artist that has a unique style and message attributed to him these days is Kendrick Lamar, especially with his new album regarding racism and the ghettos of America.

And please, Eminem is not more influential than Tupac. Just because Em was more recent doesn't give him any credibility of the legend in music that is 2pac. 2pac is the most influential hip hop artist ever, period. He may not have been the best hip hop artist (Nas, B.I.G., Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, etc. can all attest to that), but he is definitely the most influential around the world.

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Emrecan_58 10 years ago
Besiktas 149 3376

2Pac forever ! Kanye ? Jay Z ? I have respect for all of them but who are they compared to 2 Pac, seriously?
2 Pac was a true man, he was fighting for the truth and died fighting !

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Emrecan_58 10 years ago
Besiktas 149 3376

2 Pac forever ! Kanye ? Jay Z ? I have respect for all of them but who are they compared to 2 Pac ?
2 Pac was a true man. He was fighting for the truth and died fighting.

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tiki_taka 10 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

For Kayne im not judging him as an artist, he may be talented i dont listen to him that much, but as a person, his first quality is opportunism which is not my favourite quality in someone...
Eminem doesnt cross the line, or play near the limits but never cross them...

Look at this video, it gives you a little idea about the music industry, For non religious person, lets say god is the good in humanity, and the devil is the basic instinc of domination this world has...

^ DMX career destruction.

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Dynastian98 10 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

"Some say the blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice / I say the darker the flesh, then the deeper the roots" - 2pac

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Tuanis 10 years ago
Manchester United, England 87 2311

It depends a lot on what you understand as influential. It doesn't necessarily mean that those people need to save lives or do something good for the world but instead they need to be the center of attention of the world for whatever thing they do. Footballers get tons of attention and they somehow influence the way we live life. One Doctor can influence a few lives but a footballer gets immense amounts of people to follow their every step, watch their games and live always aware of that one human being. We wouldn't be having this conversation or any other ever created in this website if it wasn't for how influential this sport is all around the world.

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tiki_taka 10 years ago Edited
Barcelona, France 367 9768

It has never been a Horizontal fight, conflict of civilization is a horizontal fight, poor people fighting poor people, black vs white, muslims vs christians lately, these are arranged fights to hide the legetimate one, the only one that should be : The vertical fight.

If you see world like a pyramid, then the top of this pyramid are very few, very powerful, crual and decide everything but needs to control the mass who are the last level of the pyramid, artists, politicians and co are 4 or 5 level higher than the mass, completely knowing how it works but silent for their own interest of because of being scared of diying or getting their advantages lost.
Those on top have the bottoms to upgrade or downgrade people, make or ruin careers, own opinion by dominating press, media, music and movie industries, the political class lately after World wars, they dont have to meet to fight for their common interests and they are well prepared and organized.
In high levels, there is no racism, a Qatarian or a Russian billionnaire can party with an US one in their privates domain or yacht without any problem, because they have more in common then their own people...
While everything is made for low classes to fight each others, to get different doctrines and useless fights, hiding the important one.

For me i have no respect for all '' The American dream '' agents, this nightmare for lower classes pushes to betrayal, to corruption, to individualism, to frustration, to unsatisfaction and of course to spend your whole life working for the top of the pyramid without getting even 1% of what you have ever dreamed of for the vast majority.
Those who get highered their class level knows that submission to the top is the first criteria, before talent and before anything else, can act like stars but in the private zone, they are just ideology workers paid more than the mass, but far from being part of those who rules nations...

Media and press and movie industry are just other ideolgy domination agents, do you ever though why they earn that much ? because the fight has always been an ideology fight, to change human being identity into simple submissive consumer with no proper leader or brain to think, thats called progress...

I actually feel proud to escape to this '' progress '' even if some people look at me as an Allien at times :) this doesnt mean we should be marginalized or avoid the system, that leads to depression, but being aware is a step forward into human emancipation.

Forbes for me is just another system prize that have no importance if the majority of people doesnt believe in, anything in the world only get important if he gets attention, this is why opinion is punished more severly than rape or crimes...

Sports is one of the last domains where people succeed by the merit, players doesnt have to pay an expensive price non related to sport, but lately their have incredible sanctions about each crossing line to make them remember that they arent that free, Anelka gate, Balotelli and the J.ws gate, Zlatan in France gate...
Thats why im against political sanctions in sport.

Sorry Tuan for the off topic :) im stopping it now but worlds future is been played this decade, if we do nothing we the people WW3 is in the road, they are working on it and with their big propaganda machine there is low chances that we could escape it.

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It has never been a Horizontal fight, conflict of civilization is a horizontal fight, poor people fighting poor people, black vs white, muslims vs christians lately, these are arranged fights to hide the legetimate one, the only one that should be : The vertical fight.

If you see world like a pyramid, then the top of this pyramid are very few, very powerful, crual and decide everything but needs to control the mass who are the last level of the pyramid, artists, politicians and co are 4 or 5 level higher than the mass, completely knowing how it works but silent for their own interest of because of being scared of diting or getting their advantages lost.
Those on top have the bottoms to upgrade or downgrade people, make or ruin careers, own opinion by dominating press, media, music and movie industries, the political class lately after World wars, they dont have to meet to fight for their common interests and they are well prepared and organized.
In high levels, there is no racism, a Qatarian or a Russian billionnaire can party with an US one in their privates domain or yacht without any problem, because they have more in common then their own people...
While everything is made for low classes to fight each others, to get different doctrines and useless fights, hiding the important one.

For me i have no respect for all '' The American dream '' agents, this nightmare for lower classes pushes to betrayal, to corruption, to individualism, to frustration, to unsatisfaction and of course to spend your whole life working for the top of the pyramid without getting even 1% of what you have ever dreamed of for the vast majority.
Those who get highered their class level knows that submission to the top is the first criteria, before talent and before anything else, can act like stars but in the private zone, they are just ideology workers paid more than the mass, but far from being part of those who rules nations...

Media and press and movie industry are just other ideolgy domination agents, do you ever though why they earn that much ? because the fight has always been an ideology fight, to change human being identity into simple submissive consumers with no proper leader or brain to think, thats called progress...

I actually feel proud to escape to this '' progress '' even if some people look at me as an Allien at times :) this doesnt mean we should be marginalized or avoid the system, that leads to depression, but being aware is a step forward into human emancipation.

Forbes for me is just another system prize that have no importance if the majority of people doesnt believe in, anything in the world only get important if he gets attention, this is why opinion is punished more severly than rape or crimes...

Sports in one of the last domains where people succeed by the merit, players doesnt have to pay an expensive price non related to sport, but lately their have incredible sanctions about each crossing line to make them remember that they arent that free, Anelka gate, Balotelli and the J.ws gate, Zlatan in France gate...
Thats why im against political sanctions in sport.

Sorry Tuan for the off topic :) im stopping it now but worlds future is been played this decade, if we do nothing we the people WW3 is in the road, they are working on it and with their big propaganda machine there is low chances that we could escape it.

It has never been a Horizontal fight, conflict of civilization is a horizontal fight, poor people fighting poor people, black vs white, muslims vs christians lately, these are arranged fights to hide the legetimate one, the only one that should be : The vertical fight.

If you see world like a pyramid, then the top of this pyramid are very few, very powerful, crual and decide everything but needs to control the mass who are the last level of the pyramid, artists, politicians and co are 4 or 5 level higher than the mass, completely knowing how it works but silent for their own interest of because of being scared of diying or getting their advantages lost.
Those on top have the bottoms to upgrade or downgrade people, make or ruin careers, own opinion by dominating press, media, music and movie industries, the political class lately after World wars, they dont have to meet to fight for their common interests and they are well prepared and organized.
In high levels, there is no racism, a Qatarian or a Russian billionnaire can party with an US one in their privates domain or yacht without any problem, because they have more in common then their own people...
While everything is made for low classes to fight each others, to get different doctrines and useless fights, hiding the important one.

For me i have no respect for all '' The American dream '' agents, this nightmare for lower classes pushes to betrayal, to corruption, to individualism, to frustration, to unsatisfaction and of course to spend your whole life working for the top of the pyramid without getting even 1% of what you have ever dreamed of for the vast majority.
Those who get highered their class level knows that submission to the top is the first criteria, before talent and before anything else, can act like stars but in the private zone, they are just ideology workers paid more than the mass, but far from being part of those who rules nations...

Media and press and movie industry are just other ideolgy domination agents, do you ever though why they earn that much ? because the fight has always been an ideology fight, to change human being identity into simple submissive consumer with no proper leader or brain to think, thats called progress...

I actually feel proud to escape to this '' progress '' even if some people look at me as an Allien at times :) this doesnt mean we should be marginalized or avoid the system, that leads to depression, but being aware is a step forward into human emancipation.

Forbes for me is just another system prize that have no importance if the majority of people doesnt believe in, anything in the world only get important if he gets attention, this is why opinion is punished more severly than rape or crimes...

Sports is one of the last domains where people succeed by the merit, players doesnt have to pay an expensive price non related to sport, but lately their have incredible sanctions about each crossing line to make them remember that they arent that free, Anelka gate, Balotelli and the J.ws gate, Zlatan in France gate...
Thats why im against political sanctions in sport.

Sorry Tuan for the off topic :) im stopping it now but worlds future is been played this decade, if we do nothing we the people WW3 is in the road, they are working on it and with their big propaganda machine there is low chances that we could escape it.