Wait, what? Are now pretending that Lampard and Gerrard are not world class? Or are you saying that they're not as good as they once were?
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Wait, what? Are now pretending that Lampard and Gerrard are not world class? Or are you saying that they're not as good as they once were?
I'm saying they aren't as good as they once were.
Fair dues. Age comes to us all.
@quikzyyy: Indeed, he's been a good player for Arsenal this season. However, people talk about him like he's the man behind every Arsenal victory. Obviously a part of it, but did you see Walcott and Podolski yesterday, for instance?
Looking at his overall performance yesterday, there wasn't really much to say other than his assists. He lost the ball several times, made many passing mistakes and, as I pointed out earlier, goals and assists aren't everything. An overall great performance is important as well, which will show over time.
Furthermore, why do people seem to take his assists yesterday so overwhelming? He made three of them yesterday. The first one was a corner, the second one was a great cross and the third one was a simple header due to poor, poor defensive play from Wigan. Does that sound like an unbelievable performance? Not really.
@tdot: Gosh. How many times do I have to say this? I never said Cesc isn't top class, and to some extent, it depends on how you define it. Either way, why are you bringing up an assertion I said when, considering the time, most of them where in a different light when I wrote it?
Gerrard, Lampard and Moutinho not top class? Hoho.
You also think the players (Iniesta, Xavi and Fabregas) who got beaten by Bayern München 7-0(!) are too superior to be mentioned alongside Gerrard, Lampard and Moutinho?
Best Team: Manchester United
Worst Team: QPR
Best Player: Bale
Worst Player: Bosingwa
Best Signing: Robin van Persie
Worst Signing: Bosingwa
Best Goal: RvP's second goal against Aston Villa
Best Save:De gea's save against Fulham(Bryan Ruiz)
Most Overrated Player: Idk
Most Underrated Player:Idk
Worst Foul: Fellini heading on a player(forgot the name though)
Best Celebration:RVP against Man City
Oh!!If it applies for FA Cup I'm gonna change Best Save-De gea's save agains Mata in the 2-2 draw match!!
Best Team: Manchester United
Worst Team: Newcastle
Best Player: Suarez
Worst Player: Adebayor
Best Signing: Robin van Persie :/
Worst Signing: Adebayor
Best Goal: Adebayor vs Chelsea (yeah I know -_-)
Best Save: Cech save vs United ( Hernandez ) ERMAHGERD.
Most Overrated Player: Phil Jones
Most Underrated Player: Santi Cazorla and Luiz
Worst Foul: Mchmanamon. SUPA FLIP.
Best Celebration: Wilshere vs Swansea
@ Golden
I didn't know when you wrote what you did so I'm sorry.
But for Gerrard and Lampard, they are not top class anymore. They are GREAT, not top class. Moutinho isn't top class either. If those players you mentioned are top class, what is Iniesta and Silva then? Aliens? If they are aliens then what is Messi?
& what does Barcelona having lost to Bayern have any relevance to Iniesta's, Fabregas, and Xavi's skill level compared to Gerrard, Lampard, and Moutinho? Football is a team game and in two legs Bayern was better than Barcelona. But we are talking about individual skill, where we both well know Gerrard, Lampard, and Moutinho would barely even get a start over Thiago at Barcelona, and you want to compare them to the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, and Fabregas? C'mon son.
Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons, I think Lampard showed yesterday that he's still got it... O:)
@Golden it's not that easy to give 4 assists in one game in EPL. btw. you forgot his good pass to Ramsey to 4th goal ;)
Best Team: Manchester United.
Worst Team: Reading.
Best Player: Bale.
Worst Player: Bosingwa.
Best Signing: Hazard.
Worst Signing: Adebayor.
Best Goal: David Luiz against Fulham.
Best Save: Cech against Man United.
Most Overrated Player: Rafael
Most Underrated Player: Benteke
Worst Foul: Suarez (Any)
Best XI: Grrrr Forget it lol there are too many Chelsea players in there :))
@tiki,
As said, it depends how you define 'top class'. In my opinion, Gerrard, Lampard and Moutinho are all top class, especially the two latter. Regarding Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas, I was bringing those up letting you know how those players really aren't as superior as you think. You're a Barca fan, and it's a natural way of thinking so.
Well you're a Porto fan, but I still can't say its natural for you to think Moutinho is up there because that's just idiotic.
Who do you think was the best when it comes to the following categories this applies for FA CUP CARLING CUP and PL
Best Team:
Worst Team:
Best Player:
Worst Player:
Best Signing:
Worst Signing:
Best Goal:
Best Save:
Most Overrated Player:
Most Underrated Player:
Worst Foul:
Best Celebration:
Best XI:
This are mine
Best Team: Man United
Worst Team: QPR
Best Player: Bale
Worst Player: Adebayor
Best Signing: RVP/Hazard
Worst Signing: Adebayor
Best Goal: NA
Best Save: Petr Cech vs Man U FA CUP
Most Overrated Player: Tevez
Most Underrated Player: Michu
Worst Foul: Suarez bites Ivanovic
Best Celebration: NA
Best XI:NA