Forum
{{ post.commentCount }}

Didn't find anything.

{{ searchResult.errors[0] }}

Emery about Wenger
JozeV2 4 years ago Edited
Chelsea, Greece 6 214

Emery has fired some missiles towards Wenger

His words : (Be kind I translated from a Greek site)

I have held meetings with him a couple of times. I respect him, but despite how many informantion he gave me I had to change a lot of things. I told my footballers we are starting from zero. Even now 4 months later I still say it.

Before Wenger comes to Arsenal he was celebrating wins of 1-0 and was relying on defense. Few years later Wenger comes and the offense took over with the joy of the Invincibles.

After a few years with Wenger Arsenal's squad was focused only on technical quality and offensive freedom and all that resulted to lose any defensive qualities they had. What I want is to unite those 2 football qualities so we should be more antagonizing. Arsenal was teared apart and we had to spot it and rebuild.

The league is our top priority and our target is to finish inside the top 4. The club wants to return to UCL and we have to chances, the league and Europa League.

My personal opinion is that Emery is a coward, he hides behind words and another mans actions that pretty much made Arsenal what it is today.

Just felt like sharing it and its worth discussing.

0
  • History
Showing previous versions of this text.

Emery has fired some missiles towards Wenger

His words : (Be kind I translated from a Greek site)

I have held meetings with him a couple of times. I respect him, but despite how many informantion he gave me I had to chanbge things. I told my footballers we are starting from zero. Even now 4 months later I still say it.

Before Wenger comes to Arsenal he was celebrating wins of 1-0 and was relying on his defense. Few years later Wenger comes and the offense took over with the joy of the Invincibles.

After a few years with Wenger Arsenal's squad was focused only on technical quality and offensive freedom and all that resulted to lose any defensive qualities they had. What I want is to unite those 2 football qualities so we should be more antagonizing. Arsenal was teared apart and we had to spot it and rebuild.

The league is our top priority and our target is to finish inside the top 4. The club wants to return to UCL and we have to chances, the league and Europa League.

My personal opinion is that Emery is a coward, he hides behind words and another mans actions that pretty much made Arsenal what it is today.

Just felt like sharing it and its worth discussing.

Comments
SunFlash 4 years ago
Manchester United, USA 19 3245

I don't think any of that is really unfair and I doubt Wenger could take offense at any of it.

0
ramaboy10 4 years ago
Mauritius 285 6463

Is it really cowardly? Arsenal's defense was a joke in Wenger's last few seasons, and the their offense had lost its spark.

0
amir_keal 4 years ago
Arsenal, Netherlands 66 2894

I prefer an attacking manager all day long, but I want the defense to be a focus as well. I wasn't around when the football was 1 0 to the Arsenal, but I was with Wenger. Wenger did a lot of things, but he didn't focus on defense, especially not coming with solutions in bigger games in the lastest stage of his Arsenal career. I could think of many embarrassing games.

I do think Arsenal was teared apart in the end, Wenger looked like he needed a rest. I mean he only got 3 points away from home in 2018, which was against Huddersfield in a pointless game.

0
the_bald_genius 4 years ago
10 1583

But emery is saying the truth. He might want to rearrange his words if he knew he was misunderstood. But i see no problem.

0
iHEARTfootball 4 years ago Edited
Manchester United 38 958

Wenger being relieved of duty was a necessary move - Emery just flat-out explained why in a few sentences. He even said this in Spanish - even better! He's not scared to say it like it is, and wasn't this exactly why so many fans turned against Wenger in the first place? I'm sure a lot of (Arsenal) fans shared the same view.

The past 5 games have been a little bit frustrating from a Gunner's standpoint, but from an outsider's perspective, I can see better organisation overall in their line up so far this season. It's refreshing!

0
  • History
Showing previous versions of this text.

Wenger being relieved of duty was a necessary move - Emery just flat-out explained why in a few sentences. He even said this in Spanish - even better! He's not scared to say it like it is, and wasn't this exactly why so many fans turned again Wenger in the first place? I'm sure a lot of (Arsenal) fans would share the same view.

The past 5 games have been a little bit frustrating from a Gunner's standpoint, but from an outsider's perspective, I can see better organisation overall in their line up so far this season. It's refreshing!

Wenger being relieved of duty was a necessary move - Emery just flat-out explained why in a few sentences. He even said this in Spanish - even better! He's not scared to say it like it is, and wasn't this exactly why so many fans turned against Wenger in the first place? I'm sure a lot of (Arsenal) fans would share the same view.

The past 5 games have been a little bit frustrating from a Gunner's standpoint, but from an outsider's perspective, I can see better organisation overall in their line up so far this season. It's refreshing!

SteveBould 4 years ago
Arsenal, England 8 314

Emery's just speaking his mind that's what a man does, and he seems like a way tougher dude than Wenger. I'm a die hard Arsenal fan and personally always hated Wenger because he's a stubborn specialist that always thinks he's right and would never change. Not only that but he dragged Arsenal down with him towards the decline of his career and would not leave. Complacent with the top four and getting smacked in the champions league every year didn't do much for our fans. He had a good run and I have respect for him because he did do a lot of good things for the club. But Emery is absolutely right. We needed a complete overhaul and a change to the way the club was being run because it wasn't going anywhere. And it seems to be working out. I think Emery is doing good things with the team, we look a tougher side in the league and seem poised for a Europa League run. Most importantly Emery brings an added toughness to the squad and the boys are responding to it. There's been countless players stepping out and saying how much better they like playing for him compared to Wenger. He makes them work harder in training and definitely commands more respect. Taking over at a massive club like Arsenal is not easy and I think Emery has done it well.

P.S.
Lemme know if you want me to elaborate on Wenger I could give tons of examples of the horrible decisions and ridiculous stuff he was able to get away with because he knew he wasn't getting fired. Selling Vermaelen, Song, Gnabry, Clichy and Sagna to City? and of course the worst Van Persie to United??!? Playing Giroud over Podolski? Ramsey over Rosicky? Sczesny over Fabianski? Let alone all the "Wenger guys" were failures: Wilshere, Ramsey, Gibbs, Coquelin, Frimpong, Kallstrom.... I could go on and on.

1
JozeV2 4 years ago Edited
Chelsea, Greece 6 214

Without Wenger you would be a small club just like us without Romans money. ( I am adding that before you do it)

Its easy to judge a pro manager behind a screen anonymously, but please put yourself in his shoes, this job is all about risks I just find it wrong to blame the man who made you a big club, that fought against Fergie and the FA favoring UTD over Arsenal all those years. His latest years were disappointing yes I completely agree with you but show some fucking respect. Would you do a better job? I doubt it. Few years ago they stole his players(city,utd even chelsea) the board refused to back him up and he took all that pressure of the board and he kept going and going. Most would simply collapse or fail much more than he did, technically that is why Ferguson retired, he disliked the new era of football and how things kept changing around him.

Emery is doing a great job I did not take anything away from him but he surely gives a responsibility to Wenger, something he already knew before even signing that contract. So why bother pointing that out like a coward when you already knew where you signed for and for you who gonna work with? Why blame your not perfect but still good enough season to someone else?even that tiny bit. Be a man and take all responsibilities.

There is something we Greeks say that ''When you take someones job, money or fortune expect to take also his responsibilities. That is what defines men from boys'' They did not force Emery's hand to sign that contract he wanted it, he propably asked for it and he wanted all the benefits he could get.

For me it is typical human nature for this situation. You do 100 good things but people will remember you only for those mistakes you did and they will always be there to point them at you, ignoring how many good came from you. If I was Wenger I would quit from the hate, he instead took all that hate and curses from human trash like Arsenal TV and other trash that spam FAM FAM FAM FAM etc. and kept going. Media are destroying the beauty behind a managers job, to gather talent, egos and tactics throw them in a blender and try to play football. Nobody is perfect lad.

P.S
Before all manu fans attack me for saying the English FA backed up United all those years, if you fail to recognize it you better stop watching football. I did not say you won thanks to the refs but it surely helped you quite a lot. All those Webb memes and even Benitez famous rant with his facts prove otherwise, I mean you can't be that blind.

I hope my English are good enough to make myself understandable and my response to be seen as a different opinion rather than an aggressive reply towards you Steve.

0
  • History
Showing previous versions of this text.

Without Wenger you would be a small club just like us without Romans money. ( I am adding that before you do it)

Its easy to judge a pro manager behind a screen anonymously, but please put yourself in his shoes, this job is all about risks I just find it wrong to blame the man who made you a big club, that fought against Fergie and the FA favoring UTD over Arsenal all those years. His latest years were disappointing yes I completely agree with you but show some fucking respect. Would you do a better job? I doubt it. Few years ago they stole his players(city,utd even chelsea) the board refused to back him up and he took all that pressure of the board and he kept going and going. Most would simply collapse or fail much more than he did, technically that is why Ferguson retired, he disliked the new era of football and how things kept changing around him.

Emery is doing a great job I did not take anything away from him but he surely gives a responsibility to Wenger, something he already knew before even signing that contract. So why bother pointing that out like a coward when you already knew where you signed for and for you who gonna work with? Why blame your not perfect but still good enough season to someone else?even that tiny bit. Be a man and take all responsibilities.

There is something we Greeks say that ''When you take someones job, money or fortune expect to take also his responsibilities. That is what defines men from boys'' They did not force Emery's hand to sign that contract he wanted it, he propably asked for it and he wanted all the benefits he could get.

For me it is typical human nature for this situation. You do 100 good things but people will remember you only for those mistakes you did and they will always be there to point them at you, ignoring how many good came from you. If I was Wenger I would quit from the hate, he instead took all that hate and curses from human trash like Arsenal TV and other trash that spam FAM FAM FAM FAM etc. and kept going. Media are destroying the beauty behind a managers job, to gather talent, egos and tactics throw them in a blender and try to play football. Nobody is perfect lad.

P.S
Before all manu fans attack me for saying the English FA backed up United all those years, if you fail to recognize it you better stop watching football. I did not say you won thanks to the refs but it surely helped you quite a lot. All those Webb memes and even Benitez famous rant with his facts prove otherwise, I mean you can't be that blind.

expertfootball11 4 years ago
Real Madrid, France 64 2824

That's more of analysis than a "missile"

0
JozeV2 4 years ago Edited
Chelsea, Greece 6 214

Every has his own view of things I just thought it would be nice to exchange opinions as the guy above me did. I like discussing football that is all. Especially with rival club fans in a civilized manner.

0
  • History
Showing previous versions of this text.

Every has his own view of things I just thought it would be nice to exchange opinions as the guy above me did. I like discussing football that is all.

amir_keal 4 years ago
Arsenal, Netherlands 66 2894

I agree with everything SteveBould said tbh. I starting doubting Wenger the season City won the league and Liverpool put a challenge. Next season was disappointing but I didn't expect a league that season. However, since the season Leicester won the league, those three seasons were a joke. Towards the end of his spell, we kept getting smashed in big games that I won't even blame people not caring about Wenger as much.

Even against Spurs, would the Arsenal of last season gotten back? Most likely not. Wenger wasn't the best at motivating his players, a lot of the players have no belief that they would win the league

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45603071

I'm sorry, but if you failed to win the league vs Leicester, as much as I love Wenger he can't stay forever, he did some really dumb things towards the end of his spell.

I remember last season, 3rd game into the new season, he played Bellerin at LWB, and Monreal at CB. Although Monreal was a CB in this formation, it was stupid to bench Kolasinac for an OX who's future wasn't clear.

0