42 games place
- 12W 15D 15L

The grass is not always greener on the other side - David Moyes is about to face yet another humiliating sack after just one year of taking over the Real Sociedad job.

Poor performances thus far this season has ranked him and his team 16th, just 2 above the relegation zone, and coming from a guy who seen how he worked at United for a season, there's a very slim chance of him getting out of this mess. The board decided, however, to not take the risk and will soon meet up with the Scotsman (a planned sacking).

Just hearing about this news makes me wonder - him getting sacked while Chelsea (or Newcastle) are doing so shite atm. Steve McClaren is bonkers, and I won't be surprised when he gets the sack as well. My guess is that Moyes will return to the premier league, taking over the Toon, but I also wouldn't mind fancying the chances of him replacing Mourinho for the Chelsea job (heheheheheh).

Let's talk about this.

Reference:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11851/10061659/david-moyes-to-be-sacked-by-real-sociedad

hahahahahaahahahaha moyes at chelsea this will never happen in a 100 years. And by then moyes will be dead anyways. I can see him getting the newcastle job though. That'd suit him better.

How did David manage to ruin Sociedad that badly?

Mourinho ain't getting sacked tho. However Newcastle were lucky last year to survive the relegation battle, this year they may not be that lucky.

Newcastle has moments where they're quite good. That goal from them on Saturday was utter class, of course they didn't replicate anything half as good for the rest of the game.

Roman has been talking to Simeone and Jardim, i think this didnt helped his relatonship with Mou. Even if he has the majority of the fanbase support, only Roman decides in those kind of moments.

The moment when Moyes comes to Chelsea is the moment when I will just stop watching football. I'm saying that because I know that there is no one that's blind to hire him at Chelsea.

Ancelotti, Simeone and - as much as I dislike him - Guardiola are the only ones that would be worthy replacements to Mourinho.

Here's a question then, myself and countless others have been giving Rooney crap for not performing and criticizing Van Gaal for letting the name overvalue what is being shown on the pitch. Mourinho still being the top guy at Chelsea isn't all that different to be honest.

I get that Mourinho is an excellent manager. What he did with Porto was nothing short of a miracle. He's been near or at the top for over a decade. But at what point does it make logical sense to fire him? 12 games in, you guys are 3 points out of the regulation zone. We're nearly a third of the way through the season!

I've been the person who's been sitting here saying that Chelsea will turn it around, they have too much talent not to blah blah blah. When is that going to happen? Shouldn't it have happened already? If this was any other manager, would they be gone by now? Maybe with the exception of SAF, I cannot think of a single manager who would still be employed right now if their team went from 1st to treading the waters of regulation. Wenger, Van Gaal, Enrique, Benitez, would all be out. Maaaaaybe Pep would've been able to keep the job, but I doubt it. What makes Mourinho more "special" than all these great managers?

On the topic of Moyes, he did do an excellent job at Everton. I'm sure he would do well filling in for any PL team with a managerial vacancy, and on the subject of Chelsea-Moyes, it would never happen due to what happened at United, but does anyone here think that - just maybe - Moyes would've had this Chelsea team higher then 16th in the prem? I certainly do.

Oh well, at least Pep will probably be available next year.

@SunFlash Mourinho cant score and assist he is a manager. Why everyone blames him all the time? Oh wait he dominated everywhere he went and he doesnt do it once and everybody thinks its his fault.

@joze I won't say the players have no responsibility but Mourinho has a responsibility in all this. I don't really know to what extent but in the end the manager's job is the most important part of a club and of its results. I think it's a bit unfair how much stick he has gotten but it's fair to hold him responsible for a part of what is going wrong at the moment at chelseafc.

@Joze, I used to think along those lines until SAF left us and Moyes happened. It was basically the same squad + Mata, Fellani, and good Januzaj. We went from one of the top teams in Europe to a hot mess. If you put forth the argument that the manager has to control the squad and dressing room, then that slip was one hundred percent Moyes's fault.

Managers matter, otherwise we wouldn't have them and they wouldn't be paid so much or in such high demand. If this run of results for Chelsea were to continue, when would you fire him? If you finish the season in 16th, would you want him to go?

Anyway, on the topic of Moyes, it is confirmed now, he's fired.

@JozeMourinho

You have no idea how important a manager's impact brings to the team, and I'm saying this based on how Moyes nearly destroyed the morale of our club when he took over. I use to think that it wasn't the manager's fault, but the players, but I'm now convinced as to how important the managerial role is.

I don't see Moyes as a top class manager. Every time I hear him speak and such, I don't see anything high-esk about him. He does have an exceptional eye for talent, I'll give him that, but managing a club? Perhaps Everton was the only club he's ever had a chance to be on spotlight.

As to the possible Newcastle job, I also think Brendan Rodgers might be a much better replacement, hell, anyone would be better than McClaren (he's one of the worst). Football is so different compared to back then - everything is dependent on instant results, and the Premier League is no different, so someone like David, who relies on building a foundation of his club (takes a great deal of time), would struggle a lot. There were glimpses of David's speciality when he gave youths a chance, but he struggled to keep the Sociedad team together overall.

The only reason why Mourinho is still manager of Chelsea is because Abramovich already sacked him before. Sacking him again would further damage Abra's reputation as an owner, even if he's doing it for the club. Tough tough situation for the Blues. Makes me wonder how they're doing so bad this season though...

A manager makes a huge impact in a team I never denied that, I actually personally know it when I was trying to become a professional footballer myself.
BUT blaming Jose completely and leaving players out of this is just wrong. We can spend hours analysing and pointing fingers on managers and players but since we just hear media bullsh1t in the internet and TV our opinions matters as much as a butthole. Peace

P.S. Oh and yes I would prefer a whole new 11 than watching Mourinho leave Chelsea, considering what he has done in the past for us and the club thats the least I can do.

Thank Jesus ( Abramovich ) , Chelsea has more sense than hiring manager like Moyes .

I see people watch highlights not the Chelsea matches .

Managers importance is undisputed, so should be the performance of the players who come on from the bench and COVER LESS DISTANCE THAN OTHER TIRED PLAYERS IN LAST 20 minutes of the match !!! Who do not connect a single good pass who don't run back to cover and don't put effort to go forward .

Tactics is the only thing that manager can offer when they are on the pitch but player for player Chelsea should have given hard time to big BOYS like Stoke . We have a team of world class players and half of them were not playing like world class . They were world class Sh8t .

We had Torres who was sht but at least he ran his socks off !! DID something !!

I will throw away every bad apple in the club ! They can fck off if they are forgetting that they are playing for the Chelsea badge for the fans and not doing the Least TO FCKING RUN !!! FOR GOD SAKE AT LEAST RUN lazy bastards !! January is near , who ever wants to jump off is welcome to do so , we will gladly take money and bring someone who puts effort !

In conclusion , Throwing away one of the best managers in the world because some lazy players not putting effort is dumb ! Comparing Moyes situation at United with Mourinho's at Chelsea is even more dumber !

If you want your players to run, then you should point the finger at the manager. It is his job to motivate his players to play for him. Man-managers like Simeone and Ancelotti seem to be able to do that just fine. It is the managers who don't have good relationships with all their players (e.g. Benitez and Mourinho) who struggle to get 100% all the time from everybody.

There is simple solution . Just bench the sucker simple as that . Simeone does the same , he benches them , let them think about it ! Did not he do the same with Arda Turan ? Ancelotti seems to lost his job with all the motivation ? Where are you getting at ?

Don't put benitz in same sentence with Mourinho . Him being once our interim still hard to come in terms with ...

I see you guys love him .

Actually, Ancelotti lost his job because of lack or rotation and injuries. But of course, the fact that he won 4 trophies in 2 years, had the highest win percentage in Real Madrid history (ahead of Mourinho), and that he brought us La Decima in his first season all goes past you. But nevermind that all the players backed him up and were willing to play exactly how he wanted them to, let's continue to speak of Mourinho, who is currently struggling to motivate any of his players to perform to their best.

There is simple solution . Just bench the sucker simple as that

As you put it Marcus, "just bench the sucker". It seems that despite the poor performances, Mourinho fails to bench the poorly performing players (I believe you yourself stated many times that Ivanovic doesn't deserve to play in the starting XI for at least a few games). You pretty much summarized what I was trying to say the entire time: it's Mourinho's mess. :)

@dynastian

This topic is not about Ancelotti , and you know my stance at his period at Real . Lets not drag it off .

200k a week should be motivation to cover at least 9 miles a match ... If i was paid 200k a weak I promise I would have died on the pitch but played my heart out, covering every single inch of the pitch, chasing lost balls , and making my 9 miles at least . If that is not motivation then we should re-consider giving out big checks to players who can't even do simple task as running and get rid of those players who are selfish enough to forget that they are playing for THE CLUB AND FANS THEN FOR THE MANAGER !

I think in Madrid that concept is different but in England that is how it was always and always be . It is the foreign players who come and bring this lazy attitude . If Only we had generation of Roy Keane type of players .

Mourinho did exactly what any other manager would do at first giving a trust to a player ( who was the best in his position last season ) who lost his confidence but it turned out there is more than just loose of confidence . It was Mourinhos fck up but it does not put entire blame on him .

See If I begin to stretch when this problem has become , who are also responsible and just now became catastrophe , I will need more than few paragraphs . I am sure you are not that interested other than simply put blame on Mourinho ( that is like every Madrid fan mentality ) but fail to see many other factors that build up to this point becoming a problem .

It is simple to say Hey it is Mourinhos fault and lets fire him . We Chelsea fans know way more than you think about our Club and follow our club very closely that is why we back him up . However, I am sure that is how Madrid will deal with Benitez in a month or two .